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| the-erm | I was thinking about starting a music site that focused on creative commons share-a-like music. I however lack the legal expertise to write a decent TOS for the site. | 03:12 |
| the-erm | My budget is limited. At this point in time it's pretty much just me. | 03:12 |
| the-erm | I wanted to make the interface kinda like stereofame.com where you can browse around and still listen to music. Coding the page isn't that hard. | 03:13 |
| the-erm | I guess what I'm asking is ... any ideas :) | 03:14 |
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| saul | lo * | 10:12 |
| saul | anyone here had experience of using ccTeamspace http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcTeamspace | 10:12 |
| saul | ? | 10:12 |
| saul | I've been using semantic mediawiki to organise global domination, and was thinking of integrating the projects and task tracking features of ccTeamspace | 10:14 |
| saul | but wanted to hear some feedback from users first :) | 10:14 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 18:15 |
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| JavaWoman | hi, is there anyone who can answer a short question about jurisdictions? | 20:09 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 22:15 |
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| Krinkle | Hi, I've got a bit complicated question about Creative Commons vs. Music | 22:32 |
| Krinkle | anyone here ? | 22:32 |
| Krinkle | join creativecommons | 22:35 |
| k9d-win | i'm off and on | 23:06 |
| Krinkle | Hey k9d-win | 23:08 |
| Krinkle | My friend here is a musician and is conssidering with his band to license their next album under CC-BY-NC-ND 3.0 Unported. | 23:08 |
| k9d-win | that's cool, i run two net labels licensing work under cc | 23:09 |
| Krinkle | However he's got a small detailed question: " I understand that somebody is not allowed to distribute or copy our album without attribution. But what about a cover-band ? Is a cover-band (or popular commercial band) allowed to play our song wihout attribution ? | 23:10 |
| Krinkle | I mean.. it's not a "copy" of the licensed "audio-file" but it IS the same song... | 23:10 |
| Krinkle | I am a wikipedian, so he asked me (lol) - but I didnt have an answer. Do you ? :) | 23:10 |
| k9d-win | my answer would be that covers are not allowed ... that's what ND is for | 23:11 |
| Krinkle | Hm.. okay. But it's not an altered version of the same work. It's re-made actually, right ? | 23:11 |
| Krinkle | How can I be sure ? I mean, he's very enthouasiast about CC since it's free (much cheaper then a record company and buma/stemra license), but he needs to be sure of this thing ;) | 23:12 |
| k9d-win | a cover is derived from the original ... i can't tell u that a judge or court would agree with me on that but as a musician, it's true | 23:13 |
| Krinkle | Hm.. Okay | 23:13 |
| k9d-win | also, the BY means that the cover band would have to attribute | 23:14 |
| Krinkle | Do you know where he or me can verify it for sure ? I meet them next saterday (I'm doing the artwork for their album) and their locally known, so it's not unusuall matter that bands cover stuff. in the past there was no doubt as they licensed it at BUMA / STEMRA but with CC this would very new. In order for them to change license on everything they'll have to be sure. | 23:15 |
| Krinkle | Thanks so far k9d ! | 23:16 |
| Krinkle | ( btw: WP: BUMA/STEMRA are two private organizations in the Netherlands (Buma & Stemra) that acts as the Dutch collecting society for composers and music publishers ) | 23:17 |
| k9d-win | has your friend already checked out the faq? it answers a lot of questions around his interest http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions | 23:20 |
| k9d-win | i haven't seen anything written that talks specifically about "cover songs" but NoDerivatives means the song can't be altered, transformed, built upon, or remixed | 23:21 |
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| Krinkle | ok | 23:24 |
| Krinkle | Thx | 23:24 |
| Krinkle | I'm gonna call it a day (Dutch timezone) - Thanks a lot for the answers, I'll check out the FAQ and ask around. Hopefully we'll have 1 more CC-artist by the end of the week :) | 23:25 |
| Krinkle | byebye laters | 23:25 |
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