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| gNewPower | Good evening: could somebody recommend to me a good article comparing the GNU Free Documentation License with the various Creative Commons licences? Thanks! | 01:06 |
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| JoiIto | this might be useful: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Questions_and_Answers | 01:32 |
| gNewPower | JoiIto, thanks! | 01:44 |
| JoiIto | yw ;) | 01:45 |
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| jibot | jonsson is Karl Jonsson, a Swedish law student & Karl Jonsson, a Swedish law student. He blogs @ http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle & Karl Jonsson, a Swedish law student. He sometimes updates his web page @ www.cyberlaw.se & A Swedish lawyer who works for CC Sweden and has a blog -@ http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle & a Swedish lawyer working for CC Sweden and blogging @- http://www.cyberlaw.se/kalle & a Swedish lawyer working for CC Sweden and blogging @@ http://www.cyberla | 12:04 |
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| treaki | hi guys, how is that if you simple put music on an webpage like jirox66.tk with the gema?? | 13:32 |
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| paulproteus | treaki, I don't know that this is the right place for your question. | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | Does it relate to Creative Commons licenses? | 16:06 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 16:53 |
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| jibot | greg-g is """developing"""" the """"community"""" for """"creative commons""""" | 20:17 |
| jibot | mlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer | 20:17 |
| jibot | mecredis is Fred Benenson. He works as Creative Commons' Culture Program Associate in NYC and joined the board of SFC after starting Free Culture @ NYU & Fred Benenson. He founded Free Culture @ NYU and graduated in May of 2005. He currently lives in New York City and works as a freelance web developer and a FreeCulture activist. He may or may not be a board member of FreeCulture.org but has worked for Creative Commons and volunteered for the EFF. & Fred Benenson. | 20:17 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ and the CEO of Creative Commons | 21:19 |
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| uhlmann | hello | 22:14 |
| uhlmann | i have a question regarding a creative commons by-sa licensed work | 22:15 |
| uhlmann | the work (a photo) is made by me and somebody wants to use the photo on an album cover | 22:15 |
| uhlmann | does the album have to be cc by-sa as well? | 22:16 |
| uhlmann | is the music plus the the cc photo a derivative work? | 22:16 |
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| paulproteus | uhlmann, Hey now | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | You can always grant a separate permission for any use of your own work. | 23:27 |
| uhlmann | paulproteus: yes i know. but i want to know what would be the "cc" way. | 23:29 |
| uhlmann | i'm unsure whether photo on cover plus music become a new work or they continue to be two separate works.. | 23:30 |
| paulproteus | The album does not have to be. | 23:30 |
| paulproteus | (I am not a lawyer; I don't work at Creative Commons) | 23:30 |
| paulproteus | But the FAQ speaks to this and says No. | 23:30 |
| uhlmann | which part of the faq? | 23:32 |
| paulproteus | Let me find this for you, one sec | 23:32 |
| paulproteus | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#What_is_a_derivative_work.3F hmm | 23:33 |
| paulproteus | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#Can_I_combine_two_different_Creative_Commons_licensed_works.3F_Can_I_combine_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work_with_another_non-CC_licensed_work.3F there we go | 23:33 |
| paulproteus | ...well it doesn't clarify combined vs. derivative as far as I can tell. | 23:33 |
| paulproteus | But they remain two separate works. | 23:33 |
| paulproteus | At least, as I understand the law! | 23:34 |
| uhlmann | paulproteus: the faq entry says "yes, unless sharealike" | 23:35 |
| uhlmann | the cc photo is by-sa | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | The thing is, it's just two separate works. | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | You're not combining them, just distributing them at the same time. | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | The GPL FAQ addresses this in its own way, as I recall. | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#MereAggregation | 23:37 |
| paulproteus | "mere aggregation" is the FSF's term for what you'd be doing with CC licenses | 23:37 |
| uhlmann | yes thats what's called "Collected Work" in the CC FAQ (a little below from the section you just linked) | 23:39 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay | 23:39 |
| uhlmann | i'm unsure whether it's really just a "collected work" and not a "derivative work". | 23:41 |
| uhlmann | the faq says to derivative work: "What this means exactly and comprehensively is the subject of many law journal articles and much debate and pontification." | 23:41 |
| uhlmann | ;) | 23:41 |
| paulproteus | I would say it is because the music itself doesn't include a copy of the photo itself. | 23:41 |
| paulproteus | "But I'm not a lawyer" | 23:42 |
| uhlmann | i see. that's a good point. | 23:42 |
| uhlmann | me neither (fortunately) ;) | 23:42 |
| uhlmann | thanks for your opinion! | 23:43 |
| paulproteus | Sure thing! | 23:43 |
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