| nkinkade | JED3: I always give each site it's own unique user/pass for MySQL | 00:04 |
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| nkinkade | It's more organized that way ... but like I say, from a security standpoint it doesn't make much difference. | 00:04 |
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| pyrak | nkinkade, i know i know, i've taken forever to do the goddamned merge | 00:32 |
| pyrak | either i just suck at using it, or i've srsly borked the svnmerge data in the repo | 00:33 |
| pyrak | nkinkade, i was going to send you and nyergler an email, but i can just ask here: should i just do an old-fashioned merge, or should i ask one of you to try to svnmerge? | 00:34 |
| pyrak | i understand that a normal merge clutters up the logs, right? | 00:34 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 02:06 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ & Jonkichi (A) & Tasmanian (H) on Eitrigg (US) on WoW & I'm sure he'll be pleased to know he is once again in jeanniecool's good graces & All hail supreme ruler of the channel! (Trumpets!) & was internet famous more than once & some guy & the healthiest guy in the # & down with the dog that looks like a Panda & easy to add to trusted devices if you pretend t be Tom Coates. & the synthesis of idealism and capitalism & at ht | 06:24 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ & Jonkichi (A) & Tasmanian (H) on Eitrigg (US) on WoW & I'm sure he'll be pleased to know he is once again in jeanniecool's good graces & All hail supreme ruler of the channel! (Trumpets!) & was internet famous more than once & some guy & the healthiest guy in the # & down with the dog that looks like a Panda & easy to add to trusted devices if you pretend t be Tom Coates. & the synthesis of idealism and capitalism & at ht | 07:44 |
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| jibot | veeliam is William Lawrence <http://zaxbypass.com> and does webstuff with his quiddities. Really. & William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz & he does something at http://zaxbypass.com & here & there & has so much time to do things and only a few things to do in that time. | 08:48 |
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| jibot | veeliam is William Lawrence <http://zaxbypass.com> and does webstuff with his quiddities. Really. & William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz & he does something at http://zaxbypass.com & here & there & has so much time to do things and only a few things to do in that time. | 09:56 |
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| jibot | veeliam is William Lawrence <http://zaxbypass.com> and does webstuff with his quiddities. Really. & William Lawrence of Quiddities Dev out of Santa Cruz & he does something at http://zaxbypass.com & here & there & has so much time to do things and only a few things to do in that time. | 13:05 |
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| jibot | mlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer | 13:58 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ & Jonkichi (A) & Tasmanian (H) on Eitrigg (US) on WoW & I'm sure he'll be pleased to know he is once again in jeanniecool's good graces & All hail supreme ruler of the channel! (Trumpets!) & was internet famous more than once & some guy & the healthiest guy in the # & down with the dog that looks like a Panda & easy to add to trusted devices if you pretend t be Tom Coates. & the synthesis of idealism and capitalism & at ht | 14:29 |
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| jibot | pyrak is Parker Phinney and madebyparker.com and a sophomore at Dartmouth and a former CC tech intern | 14:39 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 14:59 |
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| jibot | mlinksva is from Creative Commons and Mike Linksvayer | 15:25 |
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| JED3 | hey nkinkade, is the receipt_date column in the civicrm_contribution table used to mark when the status of a contrib is set to "Completed", i.e. the Paypal transaction completed? | 16:36 |
| JED3 | oh nevermind, its when a receipt is sent to the contributer | 16:37 |
| JED3 | does civicrm handle the sending of a receipt? | 16:37 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Right, when a receipt is sent to the user ... and CiviCRM does that automatically when it completes a contribution. | 16:40 |
| JED3 | ahh okay | 16:41 |
| JED3 | so its safe to assume that if that field is populated, we have received payment and will then send gifts? | 16:42 |
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| jibot | akozak is Alex Kozak, Program Assistant at ccLearn and SFC@Berkeley co-founder and a norse god | 16:44 |
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| jibot | nathany is teh preacher of teh gozpl of teh Ceiling Cat and witness to teh menny divine miraclz of Ceiling Cat | 16:51 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: do you have an account on the bug tracker @ http://code.creativecommons.org/issues? | 16:55 |
| paroneayea | yep, cwebber | 16:56 |
| nathany | thakns | 16:56 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ & Jonkichi (A) & Tasmanian (H) on Eitrigg (US) on WoW & I'm sure he'll be pleased to know he is once again in jeanniecool's good graces & All hail supreme ruler of the channel! (Trumpets!) & was internet famous more than once & some guy & the healthiest guy in the # & down with the dog that looks like a Panda & easy to add to trusted devices if you pretend t be Tom Coates. & the synthesis of idealism and capitalism & at ht | 17:22 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Will you quickly check this URL in Safari and any other browser you have handy? | 17:23 |
| nkinkade | What happened to Bovinity? | 17:23 |
| mralex | nickserv fail | 17:23 |
| nkinkade | Already registered? | 17:23 |
| mralex | i think somebody sniped it, not a very strong password. :/ | 17:23 |
| nkinkade | I think the link I posted should look fine, but just wanting to make sure it doesn't totally break. | 17:24 |
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| nkinkade | Experimenting with wrapping our videos in <video /> | 17:25 |
| mralex | what link? | 17:25 |
| mralex | i'm assuming staging.cc/videos | 17:25 |
| nkinkade | The link I didn't paste. Are you or are you not mralex, the clairvoyant? | 17:25 |
| nkinkade | http://staging.creativecommons.org/videos/a-shared-culture | 17:25 |
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| nkinkade | Works fine in Firefox 3.0.13, and also in 3.5. | 17:27 |
| nkinkade | Former uses Flash, latter uses OGV. Yay! | 17:27 |
| mralex | safari has loaded the h.265 | 17:28 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Seems like it's pretty safe to go ahead and wrap all the videos like that. Would you say? | 17:29 |
| mralex | oh, i guess safari/quicktime is playing the flash. but that works, unless blip also provides mpeg4 encoding | 17:30 |
| mralex | which it does, for ASC at least | 17:31 |
| nkinkade | mralex: blip will transcode into various formats. The idea is to allow capable browsers to default to Ogg/Theora and those that can't will simply fall back to the Flash inside the <video /> tag. | 17:32 |
| mralex | nkinkade: yes. if you include an embed for the quicktime file too, safari will be happier | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Safari didn't like the Flash? | 17:33 |
| nkinkade | How do you embed both Quicktime and Flash at the same time such that the browser can choose? | 17:33 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_audio_and_video_in_Firefox i'm pretty sure you can fall back to <embed> too, after the <source> tags, for those ie folk. | 17:39 |
| nkinkade | mralex: It already does fall back to whatever is enclosed in the <video> tag, which currently is a Flash embed from blip.tv. Am I missing something? | 17:40 |
| mralex | nkinkade: i'm just saying safari/webkit ought to get mov/mp4, and by providing <source> tags you can do that, so all browsers get what they need | 17:42 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Why ought safari get mp4? | 17:42 |
| mralex | nkinkade: because i'm sure it would rather use a native video than processing a flash file + video. | 17:44 |
| mralex | nkinkade: does the way you have video embedding set up not allow for anything else? | 17:44 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: I imagine that if a browser doesn't recognize the <video> tag it just ignores it and moves on. Those that do recognize it will process it and ignore what is between <video> and </video> | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | The idea was simply to default to an open format (Ogg/Theora) for those browsers that could support it and to fall back to Flash for those that don't support it. | 17:46 |
| mralex | nkinkade: right, but you can place <source> tags within the <video> to specify different files, which the browser will look through for formats it can use. as i linked. | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | We've only been using Flash up to now, and nobody has complained that it doesn't work right in Safari or other webkit based browsers. How is MOV/MP4 native to webkit? | 17:47 |
| mralex | it's native to quicktime which webkit uses | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | I doubt quicktime is native to Midori ???? | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | Yet Midor is webkit based. | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | *Midori | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | Are you simply referring to people using Macintosh? | 17:48 |
| mralex | i expect it handles video on its own, just like Chrome handles other formats | 17:49 |
| nkinkade | My thought is that if Flash works fine in Safari on Mac, then it's better to let it go at that rather than try to start handing out diff. formats for diff. OSs and browsers. | 17:49 |
| mralex | yes, it's fine, and it works. | 17:50 |
| nkinkade | Do you disagree? I don't have a problem with doing the <source> thing. I just can't see why if Flash works okay. | 17:50 |
| mralex | i really don't want to argue about it | 17:50 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I'm not arguing. Feel free to implement it if you want. | 17:50 |
| mralex | i'm actually surprised safari pulled the flash into its own, quicktime, chrome. | 17:50 |
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| JED3 | if you guys had an account that was about to expire, how far in advance would you want to be reminded? | 17:55 |
| JED3 | ... as a hypothetical, an account with any sort of web service | 17:55 |
| nathany | JED3: 30 days? 15 days? | 18:13 |
| JED3 | yeah thats what I was thinking, I think 2 would suffice | 18:14 |
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| nkinkade | http://zupport.creativecommons.org/civicrm/contribute/pcp/info?reset=1&id=1 | 18:21 |
| JED3 | http://remysharp.com/demo/marquee.html | 18:21 |
| JED3 | dont call it a comeback! | 18:21 |
| mralex | JED3: HOT | 18:25 |
| JED3 | lol | 18:25 |
| JED3 | mralex: http://github.com/mxcl/homebrew/tree/masterbrew | 18:27 |
| akozak | mlinksva: WPmu does indeed strip the <video /> tag | 18:32 |
| akozak | as far as I can tell | 18:32 |
| paroneayea | JED3: I'd also say 15-30 days | 18:47 |
| paroneayea | a month to half a month gives the urgency to act on it and also gives the opportunity to assess financial opportunity to assess resolving the expiring membership, in case you'd forgotten and need to check your budget | 18:48 |
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| JED3 | yeah that sounds good | 18:56 |
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| mralex | nathany: et al: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bovinity/3878271581/ | 19:06 |
| paroneayea | oh | 19:08 |
| paroneayea | i saw nathany's dent about that | 19:08 |
| paroneayea | that's less terrible than just saying "fuck off and die" directly | 19:08 |
| paroneayea | at least it's humorous :) | 19:09 |
| akozak | yet inescapable | 19:09 |
| mralex | the white board said that too | 19:09 |
| nathany | mralex: nkinkade: the news link on https://support.creativecommons.org/ is wrong -- it points to staging | 19:15 |
| nkinkade | nathany: What link? | 19:15 |
| nathany | "news" in the header | 19:15 |
| mralex | in the navbar | 19:15 |
| nkinkade | I don't know anything about that. | 19:16 |
| mralex | fixed. | 19:16 |
| nathany | thanks :) | 19:17 |
| JED3 | are we having breakout calls tomorrow, or does the script still have a mind of its own? | 19:38 |
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| akozak | zomg gmail down | 19:56 |
| akozak | nvm | 19:56 |
| mralex | woah, gmail is down | 19:57 |
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| akozak | that's it, im switching back to hotmail | 19:59 |
| akozak | if you need me you can reach me at sk8erkid86@hotmail.com | 20:00 |
| akozak | or on icq | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | I kind of miss icq sometimes | 20:00 |
| akozak | haha | 20:00 |
| paroneayea | "Hi I found you via a random buddy search" | 20:01 |
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| paroneayea | "this isn't creepy or anything right" | 20:01 |
| akozak | the only thing i liked about icq was the icon | 20:01 |
| paroneayea | I actually did meet a few people I've stayed in contact with for years via that though | 20:01 |
| paroneayea | man, I was a preteen/early teen back then | 20:02 |
| paroneayea | crazy | 20:02 |
| akozak | i was all over efnet back in those days | 20:02 |
| mralex | dalnet, represent! | 20:03 |
| paroneayea | I was rocking qbasic | 20:03 |
| paroneayea | and this thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPlayer.com | 20:03 |
| paroneayea | 13 year old noobsville | 20:03 |
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| akozak | We're aware of a problem with Google Mail affecting a majority of users. The affected users are unable to access Google Mail. We will provide an update by September 1, 2009 1:53:00 PM PDT detailing when we expect to resolve the problem. Please note that this resolution time is an estimate and may change. | 20:05 |
| mralex | super. | 20:05 |
| paroneayea | I just have everything routed to the postfix account I have on my personal server | 20:09 |
| paroneayea | is the ccommons.org gmail interface down too? | 20:09 |
| paroneayea | I can't remember how to get to it | 20:09 |
| nathany | paroneayea: yes, gmail for all google apps is out ATM | 20:17 |
| nathany | (appending /a/creativecommons.org to a google service URL will usually give you the "apps hosted" version) | 20:17 |
| JED3 | not the imap servers though :) | 20:17 |
| nathany | heh | 20:17 |
| JED3 | and smtp for that matter | 20:17 |
| akozak | local copies of email is so 1990s :) | 20:18 |
| JED3 | haha | 20:18 |
| JED3 | how else do you expect me to run my Nigerian LLC? | 20:19 |
| akozak | hahaha | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | 1990 users still have mail access currently :) | 20:19 |
| paroneayea | nathany: got time for a phone call sometime this afternoon? | 20:24 |
| nathany | paroneayea: i need to meet with JED3 momentarily to do code review since he'll be out tomorrow | 20:25 |
| nathany | can i ping you when i'm done with that and either do it then or tomorrow AM first thing? | 20:26 |
| JED3 | ready when you are btw | 20:26 |
| paroneayea | I can do it whenever you're ready | 20:30 |
| nathany | paroneayea: great, I'll ping you when we're done with this | 20:30 |
| akozak | mralex: I changed the link color in my local copy of the cclearn theme, but I think that might not be the live branch anymore. I tried doing an svn update in cclearn.bak, but perm denied. | 20:32 |
| akozak | I committed my changes though, not sure where they went | 20:33 |
| mralex | have you been using cclearn.bak as your working copy on the server? | 20:33 |
| akozak | no, i don't even have access | 20:33 |
| akozak | I think I did the theme update in cclearn2 | 20:34 |
| mralex | learn-staging or learn? | 20:34 |
| akozak | and then you moved it to bak? | 20:34 |
| akozak | learn | 20:34 |
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| jibot | JoiIto is blogging at http://joi.ito.com/ & Jonkichi (A) & Tasmanian (H) on Eitrigg (US) on WoW & I'm sure he'll be pleased to know he is once again in jeanniecool's good graces & All hail supreme ruler of the channel! (Trumpets!) & was internet famous more than once & some guy & the healthiest guy in the # & down with the dog that looks like a Panda & easy to add to trusted devices if you pretend t be Tom Coates. & the synthesis of idealism and capitalism & at ht | 20:34 |
| akozak | or | 20:34 |
| akozak | hmm | 20:34 |
| akozak | actually maybe i did it on staging | 20:34 |
| akozak | all I need is a changed to #1C438B | 20:34 |
| akozak | (I guess I dont really *need* that) | 20:35 |
| mralex | well i've given you write access to themes/cclearn | 20:35 |
| akozak | ah ok thanks | 20:35 |
| akozak | We are continuing to investigate this issue. We will provide an update by September 1, 2009 2:16:00 PM PDT detailing when we expect to resolve the problem. | 20:41 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: ping | 21:26 |
| JED3 | nathany: http://dpaste.com/88409/ | 21:28 |
| JED3 | delightfully surprised | 21:29 |
| nathany | JED3: woah, wild | 21:29 |
| nathany | (and awesome) | 21:30 |
| paroneayea | nathany: pong | 21:32 |
| nathany | paroneayea: still want to chat this afternoon? | 21:33 |
| paroneayea | nathany: yep | 21:33 |
| nathany | great; let me finish writing this email and I'll ping you (2 min) | 21:33 |
| paroneayea | cool | 21:33 |
| nathany | paroneayea: shall I call you ? | 21:37 |
| paroneayea | nathany: sure | 21:37 |
| nathany | the *279 numbre? | 21:37 |
| paroneayea | 2279? yeah | 21:37 |
| nathany | paroneayea: yeah | 21:38 |
| nathany | calling | 21:38 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 21:40 |
| nathany | paroneayea: http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/PkgResources#resourcemanager-api | 21:41 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: sent; let me know if you have questions | 22:06 |
| paroneayea | nathany: jawesome | 22:06 |
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