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| akozak | nkinkade: So analytics is all set up, but is there any customization I could do to make it more useful? | 16:34 |
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| nkinkade | akozak: I'm not sure. I don't know that much about Analytics. | 16:37 |
| akozak | Ok, same here. It looks pretty complete though so I won't worry about it for now. | 16:38 |
| nkinkade | My understanding is that there isn't too much configuration needed. You just plug that bit of JS into your templates and then Google takes it from there. Feel free to poke around in the settings though. | 16:47 |
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| pyrak | paulproteus, ping | 17:09 |
| pyrak | can i bother you with some questions about jswidget? | 17:09 |
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| paulproteus | pyrak, pong | 19:41 |
| akozak | Bovinity: How do you suggest doing encoding of international characters on OpenEd? Ahrash mentioned that characters on our main page weren't formatting right on his home computer, and I though you might know a good way to avoid that. | 19:45 |
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| Bovinity | akozak: which characters? | 20:15 |
| Bovinity | akozak: oh i see | 20:17 |
| Bovinity | akozak: that'll be a windows issue | 20:17 |
| pyrak | paulproteus, so, because i added cc0 (and tweaked a few other things), the number of templates in that gen_templates.py generates is slightly less reasonable | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | Heh, okay. | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | Is that a problem? (-: | 20:18 |
| pyrak | i was chatting with nathany about this, and we realized that we didn't understand why choices such as the default license choice, etc, had their own templates | 20:18 |
| pyrak | so what happens is you get every combination of languages and other choices | 20:19 |
| pyrak | (default license, whether or not license options are available, whether or not you can choose jurisdiction, etc) | 20:19 |
| akozak | Bovinity: any suggestions on avoiding that issue? | 20:19 |
| paulproteus | This way, Apache does language negotiation. | 20:19 |
| paulproteus | I was creating lots of static files so that the use of jswidget on our side was pretty radically scalable. | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | No server-side code gets called; Apache just does content negotiation for language and serves up a file. No PHP, no mod_python. | 20:20 |
| nathany | paulproteus: absolutely for the language; i think the question was why the individual flags (ie, allow "no license" or not) caused it to generate different files | 20:21 |
| nathany | (as opposed to turning off options in javascript) | 20:21 |
| nathany | was is just size? | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | I never measured the actual traffic we get for LicenseChooser.js, but I was asked to write it at a time when we were all thinking of server load. | 20:21 |
| nathany | i couldn't remember | 20:21 |
| * paulproteus wonders | 20:21 | |
| paulproteus | Let me reread some of the code, one sec. | 20:21 |
| nathany | sure, thanks! | 20:21 |
| paulproteus | So complete.js, iirc, is a PHP script. | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | (I'm just reading view-source:http://labs.creativecommons.org/demos/jswidget/tags/0.97/example_web_app/default-is-no-license.html ) | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | I didn't want to do any "real logic" in the PHP script. | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | So the PHP script just reads one of those files and serves it out to the browser. | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | That way, I can do all the templating in joyful Python. | 20:23 |
| pyrak | paulproteus, ic, and so with that restriction, there is no way to pass the url variables to the js | 20:23 |
| pyrak | ? | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | Well, I take it back; there *is* some server-side code. | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | complete.js is PHP, but Apache does the content negotiation to pick which PHP script (which version of complete.js) to call. | 20:23 |
| nathany | for language, right? | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | Oh, right - we checked YSlow and it said page loads were really slow unless all the JsWidget code was in one HTTP request. | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | For language, right. | 20:24 |
| nathany | ah | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | So the idea is complete.js, in the nick of time, does all the file reads on the server. | 20:24 |
| pyrak | so i propose: | 20:24 |
| pyrak | only template for languages, then have one extra php file which serves up the correct javascript to handle all the other settings | 20:25 |
| pyrak | but which still is grabbed by complete.js | 20:25 |
| pyrak | (hope that makes sense) | 20:25 |
| nathany | but that means we still have the javascript generated for everything? i think i must be missing something | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to let you two figure this out for now? Ping me if you need me again. | 20:26 |
| nathany | thanks, pa | 20:26 |
| nathany | paulproteus: | 20:26 |
| pyrak | thanks, paulproteus | 20:26 |
| nathany | i stutter | 20:26 |
| pyrak | nathany, i'm going to come bother you | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | No prob. | 20:26 |
| Bovinity | ole' paulproteus | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | olé! | 20:26 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Did you receive an email from GoDaddy about resetting the password? | 21:29 |
| nathany | no | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Do you know anything about Transifex? I'm sure you've seen the emails with Theodorosl. | 21:37 |
| nkinkade | -l | 21:37 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i don't know much but i was going to try and figure out what it meant by keeping translators close to content | 21:39 |
| nkinkade | I was confused by the wording as well. In fact, I found some of the text at the Transifex site a bit odd and hard to decifer. | 21:40 |
| nathany | i was going to try and take a look to evaluate his suggestion (although it's doubtful we'll switch at this point) | 21:40 |
| nkinkade | Right, even the Transifex site says that it's complementary to Pootle not competing. | 21:40 |
| akozak | Bovinity: How would I go about updating the buttons to DiscoverEd/OpenEd/ODEPO on the main ccLearn page? | 21:49 |
| Bovinity | akozak: do you have ssh access to a6? | 21:49 |
| akozak | Bovinity: yes | 21:49 |
| Bovinity | akozak: the cclearn WP theme in the ccwordpress svn should be all you need to tweak | 21:50 |
| akozak | Bovinity: ok, I would need to make a local checkout though right? | 21:51 |
| Bovinity | akozak: right, commit to the trunk, and i can merge the production branch for you | 21:51 |
| akozak | ok thanks | 21:55 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, still wrestling with this height: 100% thing on search :/ | 21:57 |
| pyrak | just tried to replicate facebook's table approach, and doesn't seem to be doing it | 21:57 |
| Bovinity | pyrak: is it on zearch? | 21:57 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, no | 21:58 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, i mean, if you want to play with the table approach you may as well start from scratch, because apparently the way i'm doing it isn't helping at all | 21:58 |
| pyrak | actually, that's not true | 21:58 |
| pyrak | i think it is helping | 21:58 |
| pyrak | because now, the offset seems to be about the height of the bottom part of the ffx window | 21:59 |
| pyrak | the status bar part | 21:59 |
| pyrak | or whatever | 21:59 |
| pyrak | where the firebug icon is | 21:59 |
| Bovinity | interesting | 21:59 |
| Bovinity | i think <table> and the <td> with the iframe should be height:100% | 21:59 |
| akozak | nkinkade: I'm trying to checkout the cclearn wp theme from code and it isn't recognizing me... asking for svn's pw. | 21:59 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, they are | 21:59 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Do you need a read/write checkout? | 22:00 |
| nkinkade | Have you checked out something before with r/w access from svn? | 22:00 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Didn't we set that up with sj.cc? | 22:00 |
| nkinkade | If so, are you doing it from the same machine (i.e., the same public key) | 22:00 |
| akozak | nkinkade: oh no, actually you moved sj to git | 22:01 |
| akozak | to avoid this | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | akozak: You can always make a readonly checkout from subversion: http://code.creativecommons.org | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | You might as well do that unless you need to write back to the respository, in which case I'll need a public key (perhaps the same as you gave me for git). | 22:03 |
| Bovinity | he needs to commit back | 22:08 |
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| akozak | nkinkade: I would need to commit... should we move the cctheme to git? PS this isn't super urgent (i.e. today), but on out list of TODOs to follow up the opened launch tomorrow morning. | 22:11 |
| akozak | err, sorry | 22:11 |
| akozak | What I would need to commit is on our list of todos | 22:11 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I think we should just leave the WP themes in subversion. | 22:12 |
| nkinkade | They are old with lots of history. | 22:12 |
| akozak | Ok. | 22:13 |
| Bovinity | i'd love to have the themes in git... eventually | 22:13 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Was SJ an exception because it was a branch? | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | SJ was brand new, right. | 22:13 |
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| akozak | Hm, ok. Well the alternative is for me to just ping you or alex on making some minor adjustments to the links on the front page. | 22:14 |
| akozak | but there might be times in the future where it would save us all time if I had access | 22:16 |
| akozak | For example we've considered removing the map on the front page. | 22:16 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I just added your key alex@commoner for subversion. | 22:16 |
| akozak | oh ok cool | 22:17 |
| nkinkade | You should be able to make r/w checkouts now. | 22:17 |
| akozak | thanks nkinkade | 22:17 |
| akozak | PS. sorry about bringing opened down for a few min last night :/ | 22:18 |
| akozak | I really need to work on my git commit messages | 22:23 |
| JED3 | http://progit.org/ | 22:27 |
| JED3 | CC licensed too :) | 22:28 |
| akozak | saw that JED3, would probably be good for me to read | 22:28 |
| akozak | so far I've been learning git/svn as I go | 22:28 |
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| pyrak | Bovinity, i got the table fix to work | 22:41 |
| pyrak | ! | 22:41 |
| Bovinity | woot! | 22:41 |
| pyrak | (but i still hate it) | 22:41 |
| nkinkade | akozak: Did that work for you? | 22:41 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, am i correct in thinking that what can be done with a table can also be done with nested divs? | 22:44 |
| pyrak | (am i also correct in thinking that nested divs are less semantically egregious than tables?) | 22:44 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Have you got some emails from GoDaddy? | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | I need the auth codes. | 22:47 |
| nathany | oh, sorry | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | This is turning out to be a ridiculously long process when it really needn't be. | 22:47 |
| nathany | i was archiving them thinking they went to webmaster :) | 22:47 |
| nathany | one second | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | An I just learned that transferring .uk domains requires some special handling. Had to call GoDaddy for the 3rd time. | 22:47 |
| nathany | wow | 22:48 |
| akozak | nkinkade: Yes it did. | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | Not GoDaddy's fault that time, just a requirement of the owner of .uk. | 22:48 |
| nathany | nkinkade: one second and i'll start forwarding them | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 22:48 |
| nathany | nkinkade: i think that's all of them | 22:49 |
| nathany | looks like a couple went to webmaster; i didn't forward those | 22:49 |
| nathany | (oscri, oersearch) | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 22:50 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, those went to domains@ | 22:50 |
| nkinkade | just the *commons.org ones went to you only. | 22:50 |
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| nathany | got it | 23:02 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: You might get 5 more emails to confirm the transfer. | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | They are likely in your inbox right now. | 23:13 |
| nathany | from Gandi? | 23:14 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ^^ | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | Yeah. | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | I got the OER ones, and the *commons.org ones haven't showed up yet. | 23:15 |
| nkinkade | They may be delayed, but I suspect they went to the owner on record ... you. | 23:15 |
| nathany | right | 23:17 |
| nathany | can i just forward to you? | 23:17 |
| pyrak | well, ef | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Yeah, just forward them to me. | 23:18 |
| pyrak | the table fix seems to have worked only on ffx | 23:19 |
| nathany | nkinkade: forwarded | 23:19 |
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| paulproteus | Fired Fox | 23:24 |
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| Bovinity | pyrak: when i go to zearch it has a scrollbar with like 2 pixels of travel | 23:32 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, yeah | 23:32 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, so here's the thing | 23:33 |
| pyrak | the table fix works perfectly | 23:33 |
| Bovinity | have you zeroed out the table padding/spacing/border? | 23:33 |
| pyrak | in ffx | 23:33 |
| pyrak | and nothing else | 23:33 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, yes yes yes | 23:33 |
| Bovinity | ah :/ | 23:33 |
| pyrak | well, yes yes maybe | 23:33 |
| pyrak | 1 sec | 23:33 |
| pyrak | Bovinity, ok, yes yes and yes | 23:34 |
| pyrak | this is based on the facebook example that i showed you | 23:34 |
| pyrak | and in that example, if you turn off overflow: hidden, then you get this same scrollbar issue | 23:34 |
| pyrak | sorry, that's overflow: hidden in body{} | 23:35 |
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| pyrak | Bovinity, maybe come grab me when you're done with tomas? | 23:35 |
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