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| mecredis | johndoigiii: thought of a cool thing for the web citation thing over the weekend | 15:12 |
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| johndoigiii | hey fred, reading your emails now | 15:12 |
| mecredis | haha, sorry about that | 15:12 |
| mecredis | at least one was pecked out at 1am after a lot of beer | 15:13 |
| johndoigiii | haha, well I know exactly what thats like | 15:13 |
| johndoigiii | its actually a pretty clever approach | 15:13 |
| mecredis | yeah, its a particularly interesting problem to me | 15:13 |
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| mecredis | right, hence the breathless explanation | 15:13 |
| johndoigiii | how to do it is the real challenge lol | 15:13 |
| mecredis | and hungover perl hacking | 15:13 |
| johndoigiii | haha | 15:13 |
| mecredis | its basically a pattern recognition problem | 15:13 |
| mecredis | which is, uh, non-trivial | 15:14 |
| johndoigiii | hmm, okay, so what have you been tinkering with? | 15:14 |
| mecredis | oh yeah | 15:14 |
| mecredis | a "one click" attribution bookmarklet | 15:15 |
| mecredis | so you get the HTML slug immediately | 15:15 |
| mecredis | AND it gets cited | 15:15 |
| mecredis | its dicey because you'd be doing a ajax call through a book marklet | 15:15 |
| mecredis | and hijacking the clipboard | 15:15 |
| mecredis | (and by get the slug, I mean its placed in your paste clipboard) | 15:16 |
| johndoigiii | interesting, so the user would never see a cc.net page in the process? | 15:16 |
| mecredis | yeah, I mean it'd be predicated on having an account | 15:17 |
| mecredis | and knowing what you're doing | 15:17 |
| mecredis | it may have to wait for ccMoz, js bookmarklets may not be able to handle all that | 15:17 |
| mecredis | anyway, just a thought | 15:18 |
| mecredis | added to teamspace | 15:18 |
| johndoigiii | well actually I think you could definitely embed js code to use the clipboard in a bookmarklet | 15:19 |
| mecredis | right, the ajax call is another story | 15:21 |
| mecredis | unless you do the scrape locally w/ the browser | 15:21 |
| johndoigiii | yeah for the meta inf? | 15:21 |
| mecredis | which gets me thinking, how are you doing it now? | 15:22 |
| mecredis | via cc.net right, not the browser? | 15:22 |
| johndoigiii | uhm, right now i am scraping for RDFa triples on the page | 15:24 |
| mecredis | via a curl | 15:24 |
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| johndoigiii | uhm no, actually its an ajax request | 15:26 |
| mecredis | to the validator? | 15:26 |
| johndoigiii | oh wow, you could use that couldn't you, do you curl the validator of the url you want and scrape for what the validator finds? | 15:27 |
| mecredis | ideally yes | 15:27 |
| mecredis | but the validator just checks validity | 15:27 |
| mecredis | and as far as I know | 15:27 |
| mecredis | doesn't return values | 15:27 |
| mecredis | e.g. http://validator.creativecommons.org/validation/parseOnlineDocument?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Ffcb%2F3563227615%2F&commit=Submit+the+remote+file+to+analysis | 15:28 |
| johndoigiii | o ok | 15:29 |
| mecredis | anyway | 15:29 |
| mecredis | I'll let you get back to work | 15:29 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Is Parker in AIM? | 17:20 |
| nathany | nkinkade: no idea | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | I'll just reply to the email. | 17:20 |
| nathany | great, thanks :) | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | Back in the States now, by the way. Atlanta. | 17:20 |
| nathany | ok, great | 17:20 |
| nkinkade | I'll met up with Asheesh here at some point. | 17:20 |
| nathany | lol... sounds good; i'm anxious to hear how things are going for him | 17:21 |
| nathany | (i get intermittent emails, but it sounds like he's working... tons) | 17:21 |
| nkinkade | Me too. He doesn't live that far from where I'm at. | 17:21 |
| nathany | cool | 17:21 |
| nathany | so i'm really trying to protect our time on wednesday | 17:21 |
| nathany | so we can have a good conversation about projects, etc | 17:21 |
| paulproteus | (hey all) | 17:22 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Hi. | 17:22 |
| paulproteus | (currently fiddling with Windmill + Django; mikeal is characteristically extremely helpful on IRC) | 17:22 |
| nathany | paulproteus: ah, yeah, Windmill looked cool @ PyCon | 17:22 |
| paulproteus | I don't really prefer it to Selenium for any reason except mikeal's IRC help. | 17:24 |
| nathany | paulproteus: for some reason i thought it had a smaller footprint (but i could have been imagining that) | 17:25 |
| paulproteus | I think it does, "but computers are fast." | 17:25 |
| paulproteus | i know everyone wants tests to be quick, and I do too. | 17:25 |
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| UIOC | Hi | 18:25 |
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| Bovinity | johndoigiii: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bovinity/3277766384/in/set-72157613709226511/ | 19:01 |
| johndoigiii | awesome thx | 19:01 |
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| Bovinity | yay, random A4 paper in the manual feed | 19:09 |
| nathany | Bovinity: damn, I missed it! | 19:10 |
| johndoigiii | mecredis: ping | 19:15 |
| johndoigiii | http://staging.creativecommons.net/c/9LBRI | 19:17 |
| johndoigiii | the citation stuff is up on staging, if you wanna play with it, user/pass = fcb/fcb | 19:17 |
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| mecredis | johndoig-lunch: cool thanks | 19:23 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: how long ago did you make the changes to the Greek PO file? | 21:20 |
| nkinkade | I just didn't an svn up and didn't see any changes to the Greek PO files get pulled in. | 21:20 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: i made the change this morning | 21:25 |
| nkinkade | To Greek or Arabic? | 21:27 |
| nkinkade | You said Greek, but I only saw ar changes come down. | 21:27 |
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| paulproteus | johndoigiii, nathany - do you guys do Django schema migrations? I just started using "South" for it, but I wonder what e.g. cc.net does. | 21:38 |
| paulproteus | http://south.aeracode.org/wiki/ == South | 21:38 |
| nathany | paulproteus: we use dmigration | 21:39 |
| nathany | iirc there's a labs post on why i chose that | 21:39 |
| paulproteus | (oops) | 21:39 |
| paulproteus | I'll read it! | 21:39 |
| johndoigiii | paulproteus: dmigrations | 21:39 |
| paulproteus | Got it. I will go with South since it makes life easy now and the transition will be hard (and probably not history-preserving) no matter what; your reasoning here is basically, "Pick something that makes the future transition less hard and most likely history-preserving." | 21:42 |
| paulproteus | <http://labs.creativecommons.org/2008/10/21/schema-migration-with-django/> | 21:43 |
| paulproteus | But thanks, that was useful. | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Looks like we just needed to run po2cc so that cc.engine can pick up the change, but when I run po2cc I get an exception of: AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'string' | 21:47 |
| nkinkade | Do you get the same? | 21:47 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: yes, i ran into this this morning and fixed... forgot to commit those files | 21:50 |
| nathany | i think i committed an updated cc-style po for el, though, so you should be good to go for that | 21:50 |
| nathany | (and i'll commit the other files) | 21:50 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. I wasn't seen that. /viewsvn only showed the change to i18n/po/el | 21:52 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: i'll double check | 21:54 |
| nathany | nkinkade: just commited | 21:57 |
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| balleyne | johndoigiii: quick question about LicenseChooser.js. Turns out the drupal module is already using the CC API for license selection. Any advantage to switching to LicenseChooser.js, or should I just leave it using the API? | 22:53 |
| johndoigiii | I would reccomend using the LicenseChooser.js | 22:55 |
| johndoigiii | are they using the chooser from the API currently? | 22:55 |
| johndoigiii | also, which version of the api is being used? | 22:58 |
| johndoigiii | api.cc.org/rest/?version?/license... | 22:58 |
| balleyne | the API calls don't seem to have a version, e.g. http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/license/... not sure what that means | 23:07 |
| balleyne | currently using the API chooser, yes | 23:07 |
| balleyne | (sorry johndoigiii, missed your reply, paying attention now) | 23:08 |
| nathany | balleyne: that's not a valid API call | 23:09 |
| nathany | should be /rest/1.5/ or /rest/dev/ | 23:09 |
| pyrak | nathany, ping | 23:09 |
| nathany | (if it works, you're just lucky) | 23:09 |
| nathany | hi pyrak | 23:09 |
| * pyrak is parker phinney, your tech intern | 23:09 | |
| nathany | oh, cool | 23:10 |
| nathany | nice to meet you virtually :) | 23:10 |
| pyrak | :) | 23:10 |
| nathany | hope your first day is going ok | 23:10 |
| pyrak | so i got your email. just finished doing a bunch of logistics here: email, teamspace, etc | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | Hey pyrak! | 23:10 |
| nathany | cool | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | Hello from Atlanta! | 23:10 |
| pyrak | paulproteus, omfghi | 23:10 |
| balleyne | nathany: good to know! i've made note to change that | 23:10 |
| akozak | hola pyrak | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, sorry about the whole geography and timing thing. | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | I really am. | 23:11 |
| johndoigiii | nathany: looking at the apache conf for api, it rewrites to 1.0 | 23:11 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: ah | 23:11 |
| pyrak | paulproteus, don't even worry about it | 23:11 |
| nathany | that must be for legacy (like SUPER legacy) support | 23:11 |
| nathany | aka, "shit i wrote before i was full time > 5 yrs ago" | 23:11 |
| nathany | sigh | 23:11 |
| johndoigiii | ha, you mean like drupal modules? | 23:12 |
| nathany | heh | 23:12 |
| nathany | well, i didn't write *that* :) | 23:12 |
| nathany | (but yeah) | 23:12 |
| pyrak | so i'll admit that i'm only sort of familiar with public key auth | 23:13 |
| johndoigiii | balleyne, I think at the very least the rest call should be updated to use 1.5 | 23:13 |
| pyrak | paulproteus, walked me through it once... | 23:13 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 23:13 |
| nathany | pyrak: what host OS are you using? | 23:13 |
| pyrak | so, i generate a key with ssh-keygen | 23:13 |
| pyrak | nathany, ubuntu | 23:13 |
| nathany | ok, cool | 23:13 |
| nathany | so that should have created a couple files in ~/.ssh | 23:13 |
| nathany | id_xxx and id_xxx.pub | 23:14 |
| nathany | (where xxx is the key type) | 23:14 |
| nathany | see those? | 23:14 |
| pyrak | then i should probably backup those two files, right? | 23:14 |
| nathany | uh, sure | 23:14 |
| nathany | the one w/pub is the public key -- you can give that to anyone | 23:14 |
| nathany | the other one is your private key; for your eyes only | 23:14 |
| nathany | send nkinkade and/or myself the public key with your preferred username (pyrak?) and we'll add you to the source control system | 23:15 |
| nathany | since you're using ubuntu, it'll handle passing the keys when necessary (if you only have one, which it sounds like is the case at the moment) | 23:15 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: Parker? | 23:15 |
| pyrak | nkinkade, ahoy | 23:15 |
| nkinkade | Alo. | 23:15 |
| pyrak | okay, sending email now | 23:15 |
| balleyne | johndoigiii: ok, will do. would switching to LicenseChooser.js still be preferable in the long run? like, is that recommended over the API license selection? | 23:16 |
| nkinkade | Would you also like pyrak as your username? | 23:16 |
| nathany | balleyne: i don't think there's a clear win to switching over | 23:16 |
| nathany | both will continue to be supported | 23:16 |
| pyrak | nkinkade, yes please | 23:17 |
| nathany | johndoigiii may have an opinion about which would be better for users, but i'd say if they're used to one, keep doing that for the time being | 23:17 |
| nathany | (does that make sense?) | 23:17 |
| johndoigiii | yes, nathany's word should certainly trump mine in any case too btw :) | 23:18 |
| balleyne | haha alright, thanks | 23:18 |
| nathany | johndoigiii: don't mean to step on your toes, just imagined i could answer quicker :) | 23:18 |
| pyrak | public key sent | 23:18 |
| johndoigiii | haha no no thats fine | 23:18 |
| nathany | nkinkade: can you add pyrak to svn/git? | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I will as soon as I receive his key. | 23:18 |
| nathany | awesome, thanks | 23:18 |
| balleyne | there aren't really any users yet though, the module was never mode than a dev snapshot, but if it doesn't really make a difference I'll just stick with the current implementation. thanks | 23:18 |
| nathany | pyrak: baring a huge relapse or picking up whooping cough, i'm planning to be in the office tomorrow | 23:19 |
| pyrak | nathany, okay cool. is there anything else that i ought to do before tomorrow morning? | 23:19 |
| nathany | pyrak: no, i think once nkinkade gets your key added, just try to checkout the source code and we can go from there tomorrow | 23:20 |
| nathany | if you have time to start poking around in it, that'd be helpful; it's been a while since i looked at that particular code myself | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | I'll have pyrak's access setup in the next 5 minutes or so. | 23:21 |
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| nkinkade | pyrak: You should have read/write to everything in svn and git now. | 23:25 |
| nkinkade | So you should be able to do: | 23:25 |
| nkinkade | $svn co svn+ssh://svn@code.creativecommons.org/svnroot/ccsearch | 23:26 |
| nkinkade | (for example) | 23:26 |
| pyrak | ok, checked out ccsearch code. poking around now | 23:32 |
| pyrak | should test to make sure i can commit a change? | 23:32 |
| nkinkade | pyrak: If you were able to make a checkout with that command, then I'll take it for granted that you can commit as well. | 23:33 |
| pyrak | makes sense | 23:33 |
| nkinkade | If your key wasn't setup correctly then you wouldn't have been able to even checkout. | 23:33 |
| Bovinity | nathany: did you get the strep too? | 23:41 |
| nathany | Bovinity: it's not entirely clear; the doctor wound up giving me a round of azithromycin thinking my cough has been due to a non-strep throat bug | 23:41 |
| nathany | of course, that'd also kill strep, so... | 23:42 |
| nathany | who knows | 23:42 |
| Bovinity | indeed | 23:42 |
| Bovinity | so a weird coincidence that we both got a throat infection then. | 23:42 |
| nathany | yeah | 23:42 |
| nathany | quite | 23:42 |
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