Tuesday, 2009-06-02

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nkinkadenathany: rdfadict seems to be converting some korean characters to hexadecimal notation ... is this the normal thing or is there a way to override it?15:53
nathanynkinkade: it's probably an encoding issue; is this wrt planet?15:54
nkinkadeYeah.15:54
nathanyoh, with the license15:55
nkinkadeIt seems to be taking 저작자표시 2.0 대한민국 from the dc:title of the Deed and turning it into "\\ud06c\\ub9ac\\uc5d0\\uc774\\ud2f0\\ube0c \\ucee4\\uba3c\\uc988"15:55
nathanyyeah, it's the unicode representation of the characters15:55
nathanyit may not be rdfadict, it could also be venus (because it's an output issue) which makes debugging a little terrifying15:55
nkinkadeHmmm.15:56
nkinkadeIt's rdfadict, I think.15:56
nkinkadeWhen I do this:15:56
nkinkade>> trips = rdfadict.RdfaParser().parseurl('http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/kr/')15:56
nkinkadethen inspect trips the 'title' section is represented as unicode chars.15:56
nathanyso that sounds like rdfadict is working fine15:57
nathanyor by unicode chars your mean \u... ?15:57
nkinkadeI suppose I could have the plugin convert the unicode entities to html ones.15:58
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nathanynkinkade: so title appears correctly when you inspect it or as \u... ?15:58
nkinkadeYeah, I mean in my terminal I get the unicode representation, not the actual chars.15:58
nathanyok15:58
nathanyif you do15:58
nathanyimport sys15:58
nathanysys.getdefaultencoding()15:58
nathanywhat does it spit out?15:58
nkinkadeascii15:59
nkinkade!15:59
nathanyyeah15:59
nathanyso that's the problem with your terminal :)15:59
nathanyi thought we had made utf-8 the default encoding, though, for planet15:59
nkinkadeDon't turn this back on my poor terminal!15:59
nathany:)15:59
nkinkade:-)15:59
nathanyi'm going to get more coffee and then i'll look at it on planet15:59
nathanyis that on a6?15:59
nkinkadeI though UTF-8 was set for the whole machine for python.15:59
nkinkadea815:59
nathanynkinkade: so did i16:00
nkinkadeI forget where we did it, but it was some semi-standard-non-standard place.16:00
nathanyreally? not /usr/lib/pythonx.x/sitecustomize.py?16:01
nathanyoh, wait16:01
nkinkadeA place that surprise Asheesh, if I recall.16:01
nathanystupid debian16:01
nathanymay look in site-packages16:01
nathanyi forget now... looking @ a816:01
nathany>>> sys.getdefaultencoding()16:01
nathany'utf-8'16:01
nathanynkinkade: so definitely not a default encoding issue... i'll dig a little deeper16:03
nathanycan you open a ticket for me?16:04
nkinkadeNo, I think it was in fact that sitecustomize.py file, but if I recall Asheesh felt like that shouldn't be necessary if the system was already set to use utf8 as the default encoding, which it should be.16:04
nkinkadeI'll open a ticket.16:04
nkinkadeActually, Mike opened a ticket for me already for this and another issue.  Shall I just assign that one to you?16:05
nathanynkinkade: yes please16:05
nkinkadeI feel bad that I always pass this python stuff on to you.16:05
nathany:)16:05
nkinkadeBut most likely you'll be able to figure it out in 1/4 the time or less.16:05
nathanyit's more fun than other things on my list16:05
nathany:)16:05
nkinkadecharacter encoding issues are always a bundle of fun. :-)16:06
nathanyheh16:06
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nathanynkinkade: i forget, what do I remove to force venus to re-retrieve the license names and how do i force it to regenerate?17:10
nathanynkinkade: nevermind, i think i figured it out17:18
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nkinkadenathany: I commented out Korea in the config file for the Planet.  Their posts were such wild HTML that they were breaking the display.17:33
nathanynkinkade: oh17:33
nathanyok17:33
nkinkadeBut the problem was manisfesting for TW, HK, JP and maybe others.17:34
nathanywell i started working on it -- interestingly taiwan is fine now, jp and china are not17:34
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Allowi need valid cc19:47
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akozaknkinkade: ping20:34
akozakwould it be possible to upgrade semantic forms to the latest version on opened, or is that a dangerous operation?20:35
akozakthe installed version has an annoying radiobutton bug20:36
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nkinkadeakozak: Hey.20:44
nkinkadeI don't think it would be a dangerous operation.20:45
nkinkadeUnless there is some radical change to the code, then I'd imagine it would be an operation of about 15 minutes.20:45
akozakOk, its not urgent but could you upgrade it when you get a chance?20:46
nkinkadeSure.  I'll do it right now.20:46
akozakawesome!  let me know when it's done and I can check the forms afterwards20:47
nkinkadenathany: Do you see any issue with me upgrading SF on OpenEd?20:47
nathanynope20:47
nathanywhat's the worst that happens? it implodes in on itself? ;)20:47
akozakthe worst is that our forms break20:48
nathany(i don't expect that, just kidding)20:48
akozakbut it would be fixable20:48
Bovinitya wiki singularity20:48
nathanya wingularity20:48
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nkinkadeakozak: SF is now to v1.7.120:52
nkinkadehttp://opened.creativecommons.org/Special:Version20:52
akozakwow time passes quickly in a wingularity20:52
akozakthanks :)20:52
nkinkadenp20:53
akozakannnddd it messed up my forms20:56
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akozakyikes21:00
akozaklooks like the form fields are ignoring size limits21:01
akozakthey're stretching beyond the right side boundary21:01
akozakthe last version of SF wasn't customized for opened in any way was it?21:02
nathanyakozak: not that I'm aware of21:03
akozakok let me investigate21:04
akozakit might be just a problem with defaults21:04
akozakOk, I'm guessing the default sizes for text boxes was changed and the upgrade set it back to the default of 10021:12
akozakso i can just force it to a smaller size21:12
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Bovinitynathany: http://www.addisonkowalski.com/blog/the-grape-bottlecap-from-pixars-up/22:58
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nkinkadeBovinity: Re the issue with categories Weblog and International causing /weblog to break.  Did you ever find anything on that?23:16
Bovinitynkinkade: no. nor did i figure out how some categories get randomly selected23:16
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nkinkadehttp://staging.creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/1058823:17
nkinkadeWas that test post something to investigate that issue?  Bovinity ^^23:18
Bovinityi think so23:18
nkinkadeI created an entry with both cats, and nothing seemed to happen.  In fact it ddidn't even show up on the blog at all.23:19
Bovinityhttp://staging.creativecommons.org/weblog hmm23:19
nkinkadeI wonder if there's some diff. between the live site and staging?23:19
nkinkadeOkay, I just managed to fuck it up.23:21
Bovinityi'm working on not fucking up the support site right now23:22
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nkinkadeJust Weblog and it displays fine.  Weblog & International and it disappears from the face of the earth.  Weblog & International & <some subcategory of International> and it breaks like we saw before.23:22
nkinkadeBovinity: Do you need the support site totally functional at the moment?23:22
Bovinitynkinkade: ideally, yes...23:22
nkinkadeWhat's up?23:23
nkinkadeEven the /weblog link?23:23
Bovinitynkinkade: your question needs clarification.. is support in someway broken right now?23:23
nkinkadeBovinity: It works except for /weblog.23:23
Bovinitynkinkade: support.cc.org has no /weblog23:24
nkinkadeSo my question is just whether /weblog can be broken for a while.23:24
nkinkadeBovinity: I'm talking about staging.creativecommons.org23:24
Bovinitynkinkade: ok. that's fine.23:24
nathanybut who's on first?23:25
nkinkadenathany: Thanks for the Planet stuff.23:26
nathanysure23:26
nathanywhat's a day of work among friends? ;)23:26
nkinkadeBovinity and I had a slight miscommunication before.23:26
nkinkadehaha23:26
nathany:)23:26
BovinityWINGULARITY23:26
nkinkadeThat planet is surprisingly important.  When it goes down or has a major problem, it's usually evident on the front page of CC.org23:27
nkinkadeThough it's less important that it used to be, thanks to the new site design.  I'm relieved about that.23:27
nkinkadeOr WP-INGULARITY in this case.23:28
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