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| markuman | where to find this in a higher resolution or as svg? http://i.creativecommons.org/l/by-nc-sa/3.0/de/88x31.png | 09:34 |
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| MikeChelen | markuman, check http://creativecommons.org/about/downloads/ | 10:29 |
| markuman | MikeChelen, thx | 10:43 |
| MikeChelen | sure thing, that link can be a little tricky to find | 10:45 |
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| johndoigiii | nkinkade, you still there? | 21:28 |
| nkinkade | Yeah. | 21:28 |
| johndoigiii | hey, is there anyway to have https://cc.net and https://staging.cc.net ? | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | You can do that if you want, but your browser will just complain. | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | But Firefox will let you add a security exception. | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | Have you tried that yet? | 21:30 |
| johndoigiii | ... in addition to that have https://staging and http://staging use the same wsgi process? | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | Hmm. I don't know much about WSGI or how that might work. | 21:31 |
| nkinkade | I guess it could be done by making a staging.creativecommons.net an alias of CC.net, so they are served from the same vhost file. | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | ???? | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | Would you then handle things from Python rather than using name-based hosts in Apache?? | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: ^^ | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | That is, a single vhost knows itself as creativecommons.net and also staging.creativecommons.net, but it would then be up to your app to figure out which host name was requested. | 21:33 |
| johndoigiii | no I think we can still use the 2 seperate vhost files, perhaps we could run staging on a different port instead? | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | That could be done. | 21:34 |
| johndoigiii | maybe 8081 | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | I think 8081 is in use. | 21:34 |
| johndoigiii | okay, any will do | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | No, no a9 it isn't. | 21:34 |
| nkinkade | Do you want me to setup staging on 8081? | 21:35 |
| johndoigiii | yeah that'll work | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | One sec. | 21:35 |
| johndoigiii | yeah because right now staging.cc.net is actually the production commoner application | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Then it's broken right now. | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | I just changed the port to 8081, but the client will have to know to connect to it there. | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | For the other, Varnish redirect to 8080, but not for 8081. | 21:39 |
| nkinkade | Do you need me to change it back? If something was production? | 21:39 |
| johndoigiii | No its okay | 21:40 |
| johndoigiii | cc.net is fine, it was just that staging.cc.net was acting like an alias for it | 21:40 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: Is your app at staging doing any type of redirection? | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | When I go to http://staging.creativecommons.net:8081 I'm getting redirected to https://, but I don't feel that it's apache doing that. | 21:43 |
| johndoigiii | yes, the app is now responsible for redirecting all http requests to https | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 21:43 |
| johndoigiii | yeah thats the app | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | Cool. Okay, just let me know if you need me to change anything, or you can much around in /etc/apache2 if you need to. | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | *muck | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | Just make sure that support.CC.org and CC.net stay up. | 21:43 |
| johndoigiii | alright I shouldn't have to touch those | 21:44 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Didn't I create a ticket regarding the broken link on the /about/downloads page? | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | I can't seem to find it. | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | "How To License poster (Inkscape SVG source files)" | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | It's that link that is a 404. | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | I'm sure I spoke with you about this, but we just got another complaint about it not working. | 22:33 |
| Bovinity | i don't remember any tickets | 22:34 |
| nkinkade | I sent you an email about it on May 21. | 22:34 |
| nkinkade | Should I create a ticket for you, or is this something you can knock out easily? | 22:35 |
| Bovinity | i'm not sure who put those links on that page, but they didnt link them properly | 22:35 |
| nkinkade | Did you get the email I sent? | 22:35 |
| Bovinity | they should point to wiki.creativecommons.org | 22:35 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: hmm, apparently i missed it. sorry. | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | No problem. I guess I should have created a ticket instead. | 22:36 |
| nkinkade | So the fix is as simple as prepending wiki. on the URL? | 22:36 |
| Bovinity | yes | 22:37 |
| Bovinity | someone just copy&pasted from the wiki Documentation page | 22:37 |
| Bovinity | with no regard to where the links pointed | 22:38 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: fixed. | 22:40 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Thanks. I'll let the guy know. It was sent to webmaster@ so you may have already seen the complaint. | 22:40 |
| johndoigiii | nkinkade just fyi, I'm not sure if its possible to attain what I need for the staging.cc.net https redirects because cc.net is always claiming the ip:443 in its vhost | 22:44 |
| johndoigiii | already, not always* | 22:44 |
| johndoigiii | staging.cc.net would need its own ip I think, which is not possible right? | 22:44 |
| nkinkade | That sounds right, on second though. | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | t | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | It's possible, but we'd have to contact our hosting provider. | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | You have to give them a valid reason for wanting another IP. | 22:45 |
| nkinkade | I don't think they are too strict, but it seems better if we could just figure something else out. | 22:46 |
| johndoigiii | ohh okay, yes I agree | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | How about creativecommons.net/staging/ | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | Or something like that? | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | If it was all served from the save vhost, could the applications be smart enough to figure out which install to use? | 22:46 |
| nkinkade | *same | 22:47 |
| johndoigiii | hmm, potentially yes, but you would have to create a new program to handle this | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 22:48 |
| johndoigiii | something external from the cc.net project | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | That may be more trouble than it's worth. | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | I suppose Varnish might be able to handle it. | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | Varnish can redirect based on just about anything. | 22:48 |
| johndoigiii | yeah, are there any other servers that we could possibly deploy the staging.cc.net on? | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | I could have it redirect to something on 8081 if it seems a url like /staging/ | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | *sees | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | It could potentially be deployed on another server. | 22:50 |
| nkinkade | Did I ever know what the hangup with https was? It's vital that the testing be over https? I assume so, but just checking. | 22:50 |
| johndoigiii | yes, here this might help http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue94 | 22:51 |
| johndoigiii | so right now on cc.net we have apache redirecting all http requests to https before they ever hit our django app | 22:52 |
| johndoigiii | with this feature, we want all requests (http/s) to go to django and let the app handle the redirects | 22:52 |
| johndoigiii | i could experiment with it at code.cc.org/~john/ | 22:53 |
| nkinkade | johndoigiii: I see now. Would it be possible to test all of this using ports other than 443? | 22:57 |
| nkinkade | That is the user comes in to http://staging.CC.net, and you redirect them to http://staging.CC.net:<test port>? | 22:58 |
| johndoigiii | yes I do believe so | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | For the purpose of the test, it doesn't really matter that it's actually encrypted does it? | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | Just that it forwards to some other port and the app can be expecting it there. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | Then to make it production just change <test port> to 443 for the redirects??? | 22:59 |
| johndoigiii | yeah it will need to be encrypted | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | But if none of that is working or reasonable, we can always set you up on, say, a6 which currently has no https stuff on it. | 23:00 |
| johndoigiii | you could use a bogus crt but i the headers will need to indicate thats its encrypted | 23:00 |
| johndoigiii | ...for the app to behave correctly | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: For all those PDFs we have on the /about/download page, how were they created? Do we have any type of source files? That same guy who reported the broken link also would like for his people to translate those and give them to CC Germany. | 23:02 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: check wiki.cc.org/Documentation | 23:02 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: one or two other docs have source files uploaded | 23:03 |
| Bovinity | the "problem" is mst of them are InDesign, which most people don't have. but relevant files are up if they care for them. | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | Alright, I'll just point him to those. Thanks. | 23:05 |
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