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paulproteus | greg-g, syn | 00:27 |
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greg-g | paulproteus: ack | 01:45 |
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mikechelen | do free downloads on a site with advertisements violate non-commercial license? | 05:01 |
ianweller | i don't think so. | 05:02 |
ianweller | i think to violate NC you have to charge specifically for that content | 05:03 |
ianweller | or specifically for a larger compilation that contains that file | 05:03 |
ianweller | IANAL etc | 05:03 |
paulproteus | greg-g, I emailed you instead. Join my list! | 05:12 |
mikechelen | ianweller, thats kind of my guess, trying to find an explanation somewhere | 05:24 |
mikechelen | need something between the short summary and the full legal code | 05:25 |
paulproteus | mikechelen, You should read what the full legal code says about NC: | 05:25 |
paulproteus | Click on that link and search for commercial. | 05:25 |
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* ianweller looks at the nonexistence of said link | 05:26 | |
mikechelen | its http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/legalcode | 05:26 |
paulproteus | "that link" meaning the link to whichever specific NC license you're interested in | 05:26 |
paulproteus | There we go. | 05:26 |
mikechelen | 4b, however im still a little unsure | 05:26 |
paulproteus | "You may not exercise any of the rights granted to You in Section 3 above in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation" | 05:27 |
ianweller | oh i thought the colon meant "hey i'm pasting a link here." | 05:27 |
ianweller | ;) | 05:27 |
mikechelen | because the act of the distribution is free | 05:27 |
mikechelen | ugh ianal | 05:27 |
mikechelen | are there any sites using cc-nc material to look at for examples? | 05:42 |
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MaximB | hello people | 12:58 |
MaximB | I want to understand something about CC-BY-SA ... | 12:59 |
MaximB | you can re license under CC ONLY if you are the original creator and only to your unmodified work - am I correct ? | 12:59 |
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greg-g | paulproteus: I did! :) | 13:27 |
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Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: is the facebook app up in git or anywhere yet? | 17:10 |
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m3cr3d1s | Bovinity: I don't think I have an account | 18:14 |
m3cr3d1s | how do I get with git? | 18:15 |
Bovinity | i'm not sure how we set you up with that | 18:16 |
Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: you can download the mac installer from http://git-scm.com/ | 18:18 |
m3cr3d1s | thx | 18:19 |
Bovinity | i was thinking the app probably needs a short, friendly, blurb on what CC is | 18:21 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah | 18:21 |
m3cr3d1s | its pretty light in terms of copy | 18:21 |
m3cr3d1s | also the box on the profile page | 18:21 |
m3cr3d1s | should have "learn more about CC" | 18:21 |
Bovinity | yeah | 18:21 |
m3cr3d1s | and then maybe a fb-specific page | 18:21 |
m3cr3d1s | inside the app | 18:21 |
Bovinity | it has an app profile page | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | right | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | that's a good point | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | heh | 18:22 |
Bovinity | it showed up on my Highlights sidebar | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | maybe port the FAQ over | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah, its sandboxed now | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | so it probably won't show up for other people | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | but right now i just want to add some info for returning users | 18:22 |
m3cr3d1s | that they'll be changing their license | 18:23 |
m3cr3d1s | just some conditionals | 18:23 |
Bovinity | right | 18:23 |
m3cr3d1s | miight be nice to set it up to invite people | 18:23 |
m3cr3d1s | or osmething | 18:23 |
Bovinity | indeed | 18:23 |
m3cr3d1s | hrm | 18:25 |
m3cr3d1s | so how do I connect to CC's git | 18:25 |
m3cr3d1s | ' | 18:25 |
Bovinity | need to check with NY or NK... for now you can set up a local repo, which you can push remotely later | 18:26 |
m3cr3d1s | k | 18:26 |
Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: unrelated; do you have any feedback about the revised wiki main_page? | 18:30 |
m3cr3d1s | it looks great | 18:30 |
m3cr3d1s | sorry I've been late on getting back to you about that | 18:30 |
m3cr3d1s | whats the box at the bottom for? | 18:31 |
m3cr3d1s | I mean why distinguish those? | 18:31 |
m3cr3d1s | maybe documentation should be at the top? | 18:31 |
Bovinity | we decided to seperate out the "these need work" pages.. that are a bit out of date, or other wise need improvements | 18:34 |
m3cr3d1s | ah got it | 18:34 |
m3cr3d1s | maybe we should distinguish that? | 18:34 |
Bovinity | there needs to be a short description to that effect | 18:34 |
Bovinity | Documentation/ is seriously janky | 18:34 |
Bovinity | and Marking needs an overhaul | 18:35 |
m3cr3d1s | yeah, I think cameron is working on that | 18:35 |
Bovinity | all the ones in the top section have people actively working on them | 18:35 |
m3cr3d1s | great | 18:35 |
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m3cr3d1s | oops | 18:36 |
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nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: Do you have a name you'd like for the new git repository? | 21:04 |
m3cr3d1s | fb_app | 21:04 |
m3cr3d1s | ? | 21:04 |
nkinkade1 | I'd prefer facebook_app, or even cc_facebook_app | 21:04 |
nkinkade1 | Just something more explicity. | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | sure | 21:05 |
nkinkade1 | Just wanted to make sure you didn't have something in mind already. | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | nah, the code is really lightweight | 21:05 |
nkinkade1 | But is there something in particular this app does that could be used in the name? | 21:05 |
m3cr3d1s | nope | 21:06 |
johndoigiii | nkinkade1 I am was trying to create a repo myself, can you assist me when you are finished with m3cr3d1s? | 21:06 |
nkinkade1 | That is, might we make another facebook app? | 21:06 |
nkinkade1 | johndoigiii: Sure. | 21:06 |
johndoigiii | thx | 21:06 |
nkinkade1 | If it's possible that we or someone else might write another cc-related facebook app, then the name facebook_app seems to generic. | 21:06 |
nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: ^^ | 21:07 |
m3cr3d1s | right | 21:07 |
m3cr3d1s | I call it | 21:07 |
m3cr3d1s | "Creative Commons License" on Facebook | 21:07 |
m3cr3d1s | just so that the title of the app | 21:07 |
m3cr3d1s | will indicate as much on the facebook page | 21:07 |
m3cr3d1s | profile page | 21:07 |
m3cr3d1s | but totally up to you | 21:08 |
m3cr3d1s | the code is agnostic | 21:08 |
nkinkade1 | johndoigiii: First thing is to edit your local gitosis.conf and add the respository to one of the groups ... maybe the "cc" group if it's something relevant to everyone. | 21:09 |
Bovinity | cc_license_facebook_app | 21:09 |
m3cr3d1s | hurrah | 21:09 |
johndoigiii | yes, I've done all of this, but cannot get my local git to sync with the remote repo i created | 21:09 |
nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: I'll make the name what you want, but just wanted to make sure we gave some minimal though to the name so that it doesn't come back to haunt us down the road, like some other names. | 21:09 |
nkinkade1 | johndoigiii: Did you do a "git remote add ..."? | 21:09 |
johndoigiii | yes... git remote add orgin git@code.creativecommons.org:/doig.git | 21:10 |
nkinkade1 | What's that slash before doig.git? | 21:10 |
johndoigiii | however when i try to push, I get a fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | 21:10 |
m3cr3d1s | or some redirects | 21:10 |
m3cr3d1s | heh | 21:10 |
johndoigiii | well without the slash, I get a "not a repo" error | 21:11 |
nkinkade1 | looks like doig.git is in fact a repository. | 21:12 |
nkinkade1 | fatal: no matching remote head | 21:14 |
nkinkade1 | That's the error I got when I tried to clone it. | 21:14 |
nkinkade1 | I guess it's empty. | 21:14 |
nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: I'll just use the name Bovinity suggested ... long, but explicit. | 21:15 |
m3cr3d1s | and thorough | 21:15 |
m3cr3d1s | its totally up to you | 21:15 |
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johndoigiii | nkinkade1: so should I just touch a file in the repo folder so that it isnt empty? | 21:21 |
johndoigiii | because it would let me push anything to ity | 21:22 |
johndoigiii | it | 21:22 |
nkinkade1 | johndoigiii: I think it may be related. I don't think you can commit until you have added at least one file. | 21:22 |
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nkinkade1 | That is, you can't create a local branch without at least one file. | 21:22 |
nkinkade1 | So I think you'll need the local branch in order to be able to push to the remote. | 21:23 |
johndoigiii | ohh okay | 21:23 |
johndoigiii | makes sense | 21:23 |
nkinkade1 | once you have that first commit, then the branch "master" will appear. | 21:23 |
m3cr3d1s | nkinkade1: is it done? | 21:23 |
nkinkade1 | Then you should be able to "git push origin master:master" | 21:23 |
johndoigiii | awesome, thats what I was forgetting | 21:24 |
johndoigiii | so did I follow to correct workflow of, creating the repo folder on a7, adding the repo name to the gitosis.conf, then adding remote orgin, commit locala, and then pushing my branch? | 21:25 |
nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: I'm about to push it up. One sec. | 21:27 |
nkinkade1 | johndoigiii: So it worked? | 21:27 |
m3cr3d1s | cool, just didn't know if the ball was in my court | 21:27 |
johndoigiii | sure did | 21:27 |
m3cr3d1s | no rush at all | 21:27 |
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nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: You should now be able to "git clone git@code.creativecommons.orgf:cc_license_facebook_app.git" | 21:31 |
nkinkade1 | (minus that stray f) | 21:33 |
m3cr3d1s | its asking me for git@code.creativecommons.org | 21:36 |
m3cr3d1s | should I force my key | 21:36 |
m3cr3d1s | or am I missing something, nkinkade1 | 21:36 |
m3cr3d1s | sorry, this is the first time I'm seriously attempting to use git | 21:38 |
m3cr3d1s | so I'm kind of a n00b | 21:38 |
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nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: It's asking for a password for the user git? | 21:39 |
Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: should "facebook.php" be in witht he other files? | 21:39 |
m3cr3d1s | Bovinity: oh doh | 21:39 |
m3cr3d1s | I'm forgetting the facebook dir, etc. | 21:39 |
nkinkade1 | I didn't know .. I just pushed up everything you gave me. | 21:39 |
Bovinity | ah. carry on. :) | 21:39 |
nkinkade1 | No big deal ... we can add/remove things as needed. | 21:39 |
m3cr3d1s | http://svn.facebook.com/svnroot/platform/clients/packages/facebook-platform.tar.gz should be in there | 21:39 |
m3cr3d1s | but I can put it in | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | anyway | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | bash-3.2$ git clone git@code.creativecommons.org:cc_license_facebook_app.git | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | Initialized empty Git repository in /Users/fcb/Desktop/Creative Commons/Facebook Application/cc_license_facebook_app/.git/ | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | The authenticity of host 'code.creativecommons.org (64.34.161.33)' can't be established. | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | RSA key fingerprint is f3:a1:9e:6e:8d:fc:33:5c:b7:0c:ee:8a:f9:88:c2:ab. | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | Warning: Permanently added 'code.creativecommons.org,64.34.161.33' (RSA) to the list of known hosts. | 21:40 |
m3cr3d1s | git@code.creativecommons.org's password: | 21:40 |
nkinkade1 | m3cr3d1s: That would seem to indicate that your SSH key isn't being accepted or passed. | 21:43 |
m3cr3d1s | strange | 21:43 |
m3cr3d1s | well my day is coming to an end | 21:43 |
nkinkade1 | Are you using git from a terminal on Mac OS X? | 21:43 |
m3cr3d1s | we'll tackle it tomorrow | 21:43 |
m3cr3d1s | nkinkade1: yes | 21:43 |
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m3cr3d1s | thanks for your help | 21:46 |
m3cr3d1s | ciao! | 21:46 |
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johndoigiii | nkinkade1: is there a staging set up for the api ? | 22:33 |
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nkinkade1 | johndoigiii: I'm not aware that there is staging area for the api, but I know there is api-1.0, api-1.5 and api-dev | 23:34 |
nkinkade1 | Somehow the 1.5 and dev are both used for production, I think??? | 23:34 |
johndoigiii | yeah, I wasn't sure if anyone was using dev in their projects so I didnt want to introduce my code there | 23:35 |
johndoigiii | yeah | 23:35 |
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