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| chrismear | hi there! | 11:22 |
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| chrismear | asking for a friend: "Is it legal to use creative commons stuff, properly licensed and attributed, on a political website that expresses views that the original author might not like?" | 11:23 |
| chrismear | I'd have guessed the that CC licenses themselves don't put any restriction on use that doesn't fit with the original author's political views | 11:24 |
| chrismear | any thoughts? | 11:24 |
| paulproteus | I'm not a lawyer, and I know that Europe has some moral rights concepts that I don't understand fully. | 11:37 |
| paulproteus | chrismear, If you read the license, you'll see that in general they don't restrict the political way you use the works. | 11:38 |
| chrismear | thanks, that's the conclusion I drew from reading the license | 11:38 |
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| paulproteus | Mornin', all. | 15:48 |
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| paulproteus | Howdy jgay. | 15:57 |
| jgay | paulproteus: hello | 15:58 |
| jgay | I spoke with the bosses ... they get nervous when I want to go and talk about things we haven't discussed internally yet. So, they want me to discuss with our dev team things like RDFa and see if we are going to actually use it before trying to set-up some time to talk with you. | 15:59 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay. | 15:59 |
| jgay | I might have time thursday or friday, though, woudl either of those days work? | 15:59 |
| paulproteus | No, I'm going to be in Boston by Thursday (for the MIT Mystery Hunt). | 15:59 |
| jgay | haha, hillarious | 16:00 |
| paulproteus | For Nathan, it might, though. | 16:00 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, seriously hilarious. | 16:00 |
| jgay | that's great. Are you on SJ's team? | 16:00 |
| paulproteus | Nope, I'm on the Manic Sages. | 16:00 |
| jgay | What's your team's name? | 16:00 |
| jgay | nice | 16:00 |
| jgay | I've never done the hunt | 16:01 |
| jgay | I've always wanted to. Maybe I should tyr to get on a team for next year and start practicing. | 16:01 |
| jgay | paulproteus: I guess an in-person meeting wont' really matter, anyhow. I mean, like, if we are going to discuss something like RDFa, not sure if sitting around is going to improve the discussion much. | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | I imagine that's true, but I find many things are improved by eating. (-; | 16:02 |
| jgay | I'll try to put together a wiki agenda, then we can discuss things asyncrhonously | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | Okay, cool. | 16:02 |
| jgay | haha, that is also true | 16:02 |
| jgay | yeah, that's why dinner is usually worht it to me | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | Presence can provide pressure that's helpful for making sure you think of everything, and low latency is nice. | 16:03 |
| paulproteus | But naturally I don't believe it's essential. | 16:03 |
| jgay | yeah, that's true. | 16:05 |
| jgay | Oh, hey, I had a quick question. Do you guys do anything with the open library? | 16:05 |
| jgay | API wise | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | Not that I know of. | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | I'm pretty sure that's a real no, but we're tangentially involved in the Canadian Public Domain Registry that uses OpenLibrary I think. | 16:06 |
| paulproteus | So we don't, but like everyone else we know someone who does. | 16:07 |
| mlinksva | jgay: pdregistry.ca just runs the OL software, doesn't use the API AFAIK. rejon or david strauss, both occasionally on this channel, can probably say more. i'd suggest hopping on the OL mailing list | 16:16 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus: go to sleep :) | 16:16 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, I think it might be too late for that. | 16:16 |
| * paulproteus updates our Pootle documentation | 16:17 | |
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| jgay | mlinksva: thanks. SJ Klein and Aaron Swartz both told me to track down David Strauss. Can someone PM me his email address? | 16:20 |
| mlinksva | done | 16:22 |
| jgay | mlinksva: thanks | 16:25 |
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| hangar | Hi; can someone help me figure out how best to release my game software under GPL with its art under CC? | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | hangar, All you really need to do is be clear about what parts are available for re-use under what terms. | 16:38 |
| paulproteus | Do you have a specific question? | 16:39 |
| hangar | I'm just wondering what files I should include in a distribution | 16:39 |
| hangar | It would work to include text files with the legalese and have a separate document explaining what's released under which license? | 16:39 |
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| paulproteus | hangar, I'm no lawyer, but that seems fine to me. | 16:43 |
| hangar | OK, thanks | 16:43 |
| paulproteus | Just be sure that you follow both the GPL's directions on how to license things under the GPL, and the CC licenses's instructions too. | 16:43 |
| paulproteus | I think both licenses' FAQs clarify this. | 16:43 |
| paulproteus | As for CC, you could use the license chooser. | 16:44 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Mornin'. | 16:45 |
| hangar | well, the problem is that the CC license just has a link for using it on a webpage, not for including it with the actual software | 16:45 |
| nathany | paulproteus: morning | 16:47 |
| greg-g | nathany: we doing call in 10 minutes or another time? | 16:48 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Now that the first screencast is done I'm modernizing the screenshots on Translating_with_Pootle. | 16:49 |
| nathany | hey greg-g -- in 10 is fine with me | 16:49 |
| greg-g | nathany: morning, btw :) | 16:49 |
| nathany | sorry for the radio silence | 16:49 |
| greg-g | np | 16:49 |
| nathany | can you priv msg me the # or call my desk? | 16:49 |
| nathany | (or im) | 16:49 |
| greg-g | and done. | 16:50 |
| nathany | paulproteus: just saw your email; your sleep schedule sounds fine (if a bit grueling) to me ;) | 16:52 |
| nathany | (although maybe i'm just old) | 16:52 |
| paulproteus | I actually have no idea when I'm going to sleep today anymore. | 16:53 |
| paulproteus | Since my SF-LUG Python tutorial meets at 6:30, and I still seem to be awake. | 16:53 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, whatever, I'll figure something out. | 16:53 |
| nathany | ok | 16:54 |
| paulproteus | I'm liking this being awake thing, anyway. (-: | 16:54 |
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| mlinksva | there's a bad #waketime joke in there someplace for those on this channel who also follow bkuhn on identi.ca. not even worth articulating | 16:58 |
| nathany | lol | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | lol! | 16:58 |
| nathany | #nowaketime | 16:58 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Are we supporting ccPublisher any longer? | 18:24 |
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| nathany | not really; are you referring to the cc-devel forward you did? | 18:24 |
| nathany | (a few days ago) | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | Yeah. | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | They wrote me back, and I'm not sure how to reply. | 18:24 |
| nkinkade | Should I just indicate that it's fairly old and not really supported any more, and then point them to some newer resouces ... perhaps XMP stuff? | 18:25 |
| nathany | XMP stuff isn't particularly relevant | 18:25 |
| nathany | assuming they're looking to host @ IA | 18:25 |
| nkinkade | I guess i don't even know what ccPublisher is/does. | 18:26 |
| nathany | you can forward me their reply and i'll reply to it | 18:26 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. :-) | 18:26 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Just so I know. Is ccPublisher out of date because there just wasn't enough demand for it? | 18:29 |
| nathany | no, because we didn't have the resources to continue working on it | 18:30 |
| nathany | (and because at about the same time video sharing on the web took off so it seemed like deman might wane) | 18:30 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: is there a way to force varnish to invalidate the cache for one item? | 19:46 |
| nathany | (nevermind, i finally requested it enough to get the new version) | 19:48 |
| paulproteus | nathany, There's a 30s global expiry iirc on Varnish items. | 19:48 |
| nathany | ok thanks | 19:48 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: nathany: I think the default expiry is 90s. It's possible I'm wrong. | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Oh, I trust you to recall bette.r | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | At least it's a multiple of what I thought. | 20:24 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: And you can purge an item from the cache by telnetting to localhost 6082 and then using something like "purge.url <patter>" | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | Type help once you are connected to Varnish. There are a number of things you can do. | 20:28 |
| nkinkade | Apparently there will be a web management interface in the next version. | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | a6 is sloow. | 20:54 |
| paulproteus | It took me 30s to SSH in a moment ago. | 20:54 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: It's possible that you tried to login at precisely the moment I was svn up'ing ccLearn to WP 2.7. | 21:11 |
| nkinkade | But still, 30 seconds on that machine, even with a largish checkout is absurd. | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | What gives? | 21:12 |
| nkinkade | a6: load average: 0.00, 0.19, 0.94 | 21:12 |
| paulproteus | Load average is low again. | 21:13 |
| paulproteus | I think you're right re: svn up'ing maybe. | 21:13 |
| nkinkade | 0.00 is pretty low. | 21:13 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 21:13 |
| nkinkade | About the time you posted the message was right about the time I was upgrading. | 21:13 |
| nkinkade | Must have just been a flurry of network activity that stymied your login. | 21:14 |
| * paulproteus nods | 21:18 | |
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| stweston | hello, all. | 22:06 |
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| paulproteus | Bye all. | 22:09 |
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