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| chuck | Hello | 01:55 |
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| chuck | Is it possible to to relicense content from GFDL to a CC license? | 01:55 |
| is4 | depends, is it your content? | 02:07 |
| is4 | I think that GNU and CC are finalizing the hashing out of compatibility between the GFDL and cc -by-sa 3.0 | 02:08 |
| is4 | but it hasn't happened yet | 02:08 |
| is4 | some holdout on the GNU's side | 02:08 |
| is4 | chuck, ^ | 02:10 |
| chuck | is4: it's a wiki | 02:13 |
| is4 | chuck, by which you mean it's an open collaborative wiki ala wikipedia etc? | 02:14 |
| is4 | wherein contributors originally contributed their edits(copyright) under a GFDL license? | 02:15 |
| is4 | btw, obligatory IANAL I am not a lawyer, I am not a part of CreativeCommons, etc | 02:16 |
| paulproteus | is4, There's no hold-out; look up GFDL 1.3. | 02:17 |
| paulproteus | s/hold-out/hold-up/ | 02:18 |
| chuck | is4: yes | 02:18 |
| chuck | it's content released under GFDL 1.2 | 02:18 |
| is4 | Oh it happened this november, no wonder. I've been buried for two months | 02:19 |
| * is4 reads mako | 02:19 | |
| chuck | And not "GFDL 1.2 or any later version", either, so I think i'm pretty much trapped | 02:19 |
| is4 | doesn't the GFDL includes 'or any later version' text be default? | 02:20 |
| * is4 continues reading | 02:20 | |
| chuck | I don't know | 02:26 |
| is4 | chuck, it's pretty easy to look up http://www.fsf.org/licensing/licenses/fdl.html | 02:40 |
| is4 | the 1.3 version | 02:40 |
| is4 | search for the word 'later' | 02:40 |
| chuck | We're under .2 | 02:40 |
| chuck | 1.2 | 02:40 |
| chuck | Looks like i'm fucked, we don't have "or any later version" on the site | 02:41 |
| is4 | chuck http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/fdl-1.2-standalone.html | 02:42 |
| is4 | read section 10, Future Revisions of this license | 02:42 |
| chuck | yeah, it says we need "or later version" | 02:42 |
| is4 | that's not how I read it | 02:43 |
| is4 | If the Document specifies that a particular numbered version of this License "or any later version" applies to it, | 02:43 |
| is4 | if it states a specific revision number you can still use later | 02:44 |
| is4 | chuck, ^ | 02:44 |
| chuck | no, I think it means we have to literally say "or any later version" after it | 02:45 |
| is4 | chuck iiinteresting | 02:49 |
| is4 | hrrm | 02:50 |
| is4 | chuck, doesn't the copyright statement require you to say 'or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation' ? | 02:50 |
| is4 | well now I'm curious | 02:52 |
| chuck | is4: MediaWiki doesn't do that by default | 02:53 |
| is4 | there's no reason to believe that a standard mediawiki install satisfies the gfdl | 02:54 |
| is4 | wikipedia satisfies: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights | 02:54 |
| chuck | I dunno, I'm pretty sure that our MediaWiki installation came without that phrase | 02:55 |
| chuck | oh wait | 02:56 |
| chuck | you don't actually need to say "or any later version" in the footer, it seems | 02:56 |
| chuck | Wikipedia doesn't | 02:56 |
| chuck | but they have it in a copyrights page, and I don't think we did that | 02:56 |
| is4 | it's not a footer thing | 02:56 |
| is4 | it has to be in the copyright statement | 02:57 |
| is4 | right | 02:57 |
| is4 | what wiki are we talking about anyway? | 02:57 |
| is4 | all of yourwiki.net? | 02:57 |
| is4 | or a specific projectwiki? | 02:57 |
| is4 | chuck: oh snap: http://everquest.yourwiki.net/wiki/Project:Copyrights | 02:59 |
| chuck | is4: oh... snap >_< http://meta.yourwiki.net/wiki/Meta:Copyrights | 03:00 |
| chuck | how specific | 03:00 |
| chuck | brb | 03:00 |
| is4 | doh! | 03:01 |
| is4 | chuck, imo you didn't satisfy for the meta wiki, but possibly are ok on individual projects | 03:04 |
| is4 | Also, I am not familiar with yourwiki. This is a problem... :-( | 03:04 |
| chuck | Meta wiki is kind of one of our main wikis, though :P | 03:05 |
| chuck | It's the only one I care about ;-) | 03:05 |
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| Viper550 | hmm, think there should be maybe a seperate set of Creative Commons licenses with "no DRM" provisions? | 03:15 |
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| isforinsects | eer, lemme see if I have the colors set up right | 04:16 |
| isforinsects | ping NotADJ and/or paulproteus | 04:16 |
| is4loan_ | ping isforinsects | 04:17 |
| is4loan_ | hi isforinsects | 04:17 |
| is4loan_ | how are you? | 04:17 |
| is4loan_ | isforinsects, are you there? | 04:17 |
| isforinsects | is4loan_: I am! | 04:17 |
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| Viper550 | I had ideas like, remove that DRM clause from the license and add a NoDRM option, "You may not use technical measures such as Digital Rights Managment systems to restrict the reuse of this work" | 04:20 |
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| paulproteus | isforinsects, Hi | 08:52 |
| paulproteus | I'm sleepy now and was away earlier. | 08:52 |
| isforinsects | hey paulproteus | 08:55 |
| isforinsects | I've been teaching myself vim today | 08:57 |
| paulproteus | Interesting. | 09:05 |
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| paulproteus | How do you like it? | 09:05 |
| paulproteus | It has some nice features for navigating around text files, but in the end I find Ctrl-left and Ctrl-right and their friends in Emacs enough for me. | 09:05 |
| isforinsects | I haven't used emacs enough to be able to judge yet | 09:06 |
| isforinsects | I figured that enough things use vim bindings that I should learn them | 09:07 |
| paulproteus | That makes enough sense, yeah. | 09:10 |
| paulproteus | Are you using vimtutor? | 09:10 |
| paulproteus | It's pretty good. | 09:10 |
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| Xteven | hi | 13:27 |
| Xteven | I wonder if I could get in contact with the person who set up the wiki + openid extension | 13:31 |
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| paulproteus | Xteven, Yes, webmaster@creativecommons is the contact address for all of us. | 17:41 |
| Xteven | ok thx :) | 17:48 |
| Xteven | I used the mailform on the site already | 17:49 |
| Xteven | and inthe meantime, I also got my setup working | 17:49 |
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