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| tannewt | rejon, any reason mixter files are in cctools subversion? | 03:59 |
| rejon | yeah, becuase they are used for ccmixter | 04:02 |
| rejon | ;) | 04:02 |
| rejon | they don't do anything | 04:02 |
| rejon | ok, need to rest my eyes | 04:02 |
| tannewt | sleep well rejon | 04:03 |
| rejon | not sleep, just rest my eyes | 04:03 |
| tannewt | enjoy that then | 04:03 |
| tannewt | :-) | 04:03 |
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| tannewt | rejon, still resting your eyes? | 07:31 |
| rejon | yeah, about ready to really rest them (sleep) | 07:31 |
| rejon | I'll get you back in the am | 07:33 |
| rejon | email me otherwise | 07:33 |
| tannewt | alright cheers | 07:33 |
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| rejon | http://wiki.icommons.org/index.php/Incubator_project | 17:23 |
| rejon | don't forget your nodes | 17:23 |
| rejon | I went to the doctor and I found I had nodes | 17:23 |
| rejon | You know what we need more of.... | 17:23 |
| rejon | anyone? | 17:23 |
| rejon | we need more nodes | 17:23 |
| rejon | I have about 2000 nodes in my todo list | 17:24 |
| bovinity | lol | 17:24 |
| rejon | because you know, everything is a node | 17:24 |
| rejon | node = hobbit? | 17:24 |
| bovinity | i dont knode. | 17:24 |
| rejon | wait, I believe in gnode | 17:24 |
| rejon | but I wanted to make an X version, so xnode | 17:25 |
| rejon | google should rename SoC to summer of nodes | 17:25 |
| rejon | SoN | 17:25 |
| rejon | man, I'm the biggest screen command convert btw | 17:28 |
| rejon | screen rules the planet | 17:28 |
| rejon | one of the summer of code projects for X is to make an xscreen app | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | Set your users' shell to screen, then spy on them with "screen -x". | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | OMG for real, rejon!? | 17:29 |
| rejon | yeah | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | I've been dreaming of that for ages. | 17:29 |
| rejon | totally smart right | 17:29 |
| rejon | so basically, when you X crashes, your apps are still purring along | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | Just hooking screen to gnome-terminal shouldn't be all that hard. | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | File -> Save to a Screen (and keep running) in gnome-terminal. | 17:29 |
| paulproteus | And then being able to use local widgets for a remote screen. | 17:29 |
| rejon | cool | 17:30 |
| paulproteus | BTW, Google API is giving me HTTP error 502 all over. | 17:30 |
| rejon | cool because you could just move your gui from system to system | 17:30 |
| paulproteus | Precisely. Just have the UI do calls to the screen socket over SSH, and then you can get local low-latency scrollbars for remote programs even on high-latency links (since the scrollback data will presumably be cached). | 17:31 |
| rejon | yep | 17:31 |
| rejon | did you guys sort out new host? | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | No.... | 17:32 |
| rejon | I think ibiblio | 17:32 |
| rejon | they are pretty active | 17:32 |
| rejon | and I'm an dev. on their project | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | Do you know why mlinksva suggests not ibiblio? | 17:32 |
| rejon | mlinksva: ? | 17:32 |
| rejon | freeculture.org needs a new host | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | That much is clear. | 17:32 |
| rejon | osuosl is booked up on hosting | 17:32 |
| rejon | yeah, FC.o has been offline for 3 days now...gotta get that moved | 17:33 |
| paulproteus | It's more than 3. | 17:33 |
| paulproteus | But yeah. | 17:33 |
| mlinksva | the cc jurisdiction and icommons sites that have or do use ibiblio have had various problems, including the db being down and machines being really slow, but much of it can probably be attributed to the inexperience of the people attempting to maintain the sites | 17:34 |
| mlinksva | feel free to try them | 17:34 |
| mlinksva | if i were doing it i'd probably just go with dreamhost or similar super cheap but reliable commercial provider | 17:35 |
| rejon | paulproteus: I emailed bryce and kees about good ideas for hosting | 17:35 |
| rejon | yeah, are there resources for FC.o? | 17:35 |
| mlinksva | but maybe zero cost means much lower headaches for FC... | 17:35 |
| rejon | yeah | 17:35 |
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| rejon | Hi tannewt | 17:35 |
| tannewt | hi rejon | 17:35 |
| tannewt | rejon, whats the process for adding ogg theora support including thumbnails? | 17:36 |
| rejon | there are a couple of procedures | 17:36 |
| rejon | if you want deeper metadata support, this might already be supported by getid3.sf.net, the php app we use for metadata | 17:37 |
| rejon | however, we now have support for non-getid3 file uploading | 17:37 |
| rejon | and recognizing magic bytes of various file types | 17:37 |
| tannewt | can I write something to process the files? | 17:37 |
| rejon | yep | 17:38 |
| rejon | this is something we need to add a hook in | 17:38 |
| rejon | actually | 17:38 |
| rejon | so we can check the files, etc | 17:38 |
| rejon | purify them | 17:38 |
| tannewt | I've got it running off of svn | 17:38 |
| rejon | looks like the magic for ogg is: OggS | 17:39 |
| rejon | on many systems you can find /etc/mime-magic | 17:39 |
| rejon | or /etc/gnome-vfs-mime-magic | 17:39 |
| tannewt | Ideally it'd process annodex files though | 17:39 |
| paulproteus | rejon, How do you know about the X screen SoC thing? | 17:39 |
| rejon | read about on Google SoC page | 17:40 |
| rejon | http://code.google.com/soc/xorg/appinfo.html?csaid=73A89F18E7770493 | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | ! monia.wordpress.com | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | This thing is only for local screens, apparently. | 17:42 |
| rejon | tannewt: can you ask on the list about these bigger questions...I'm focusing on some other tasks right...i need to dig through the code for you | 17:42 |
| rejon | oh, still good | 17:42 |
| rejon | tannewt: i need to work on something similar | 17:42 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, I'm trying to test stats on apps right now, but I'm going to wait until Google's API calms down, hopefully later tonight. | 17:43 |
| tannewt | rejon, sure I'll post to the list, I was thinking of using gstreamer for pulling video thumbnails and cmml so I just need bindings | 17:44 |
| rejon | yep, | 17:44 |
| rejon | it would be worth checking out in gconf-editor | 17:45 |
| rejon | the diff. thumbnailing apps that nautilus uses | 17:45 |
| rejon | I think that cchost should support the freedesktop thumbnail spec | 17:45 |
| rejon | I want to get really good abstraction of thumbnails | 17:45 |
| tannewt | rejon, you are thinking about a mass import too right? | 17:46 |
| rejon | yes | 17:46 |
| rejon | there are scripts for this | 17:46 |
| rejon | man, what would be really helpful is if you would file these on cctools | 17:47 |
| rejon | http://sf.net/projects/cctools | 17:47 |
| rejon | as feature requests and/or add to the current ones with what you are thinking | 17:47 |
| rejon | we need to consolidate our thoughts | 17:47 |
| rejon | and then divide and conquer | 17:47 |
| rejon | also, an email pointing to these would really help | 17:47 |
| rejon | i feel like we are tracking too many things in our heads | 17:47 |
| rejon | (at least I am ;) | 17:47 |
| tannewt | well, I'm willing to lay down the code, I just need to find the appropriate bindings | 17:48 |
| tannewt | I will post to the list too though | 17:48 |
| rejon | cool | 17:48 |
| rejon | do you have an account with cctools on sf.net? | 17:49 |
| tannewt | the list or a sf account? | 17:49 |
| rejon | sf account | 17:49 |
| rejon | We try to get devs. to contribute one patch and then after we accept, then give a developer full access as a developer to SVN commit, etc | 17:49 |
| tannewt | yeah I have a sf account already | 17:50 |
| rejon | I mean access to our project | 17:51 |
| tannewt | ah, full access to svn? | 17:52 |
| rejon | yes | 17:52 |
| tannewt | no I don't | 17:52 |
| rejon | so, whenever you contribute a patch, just ping here or the cc-devel or cctools-cchost list and one of us will review, commit and hook you up with an account... | 17:52 |
| rejon | it doesn't have to be a monster patch | 17:52 |
| rejon | just some feature | 17:52 |
| rejon | or some fixes | 17:52 |
| rejon | or a translation | 17:53 |
| rejon | ;) | 17:53 |
| rejon | just post to the patch tracker | 17:53 |
| tannewt | alright but where can I find the information on how to add a filter? | 17:53 |
| tannewt | should I post for advice on the list? | 17:53 |
| rejon | one second...let me look at that code | 17:53 |
| tannewt | is there anyway to add thumbnails or are they flat out not supported yet? | 17:54 |
| rejon | no, they are supported | 17:55 |
| rejon | but for bitmap images only at this point | 17:55 |
| tannewt | not jpeg or png? | 17:55 |
| rejon | so, for the filters | 17:55 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, bitmap as compared to vector. | 17:55 |
| rejon | in cclib/cc-uploadapi.php | 17:55 |
| tannewt | ah alright | 17:55 |
| rejon | in the class CCUploadAPI | 17:56 |
| rejon | there is both postprocess upload and preprocess | 17:56 |
| rejon | but cchost is event based | 17:56 |
| rejon | so you can just create a new class | 17:56 |
| rejon | cc-filefilter.php | 17:57 |
| rejon | or something | 17:57 |
| rejon | and have it watch the event: | 17:57 |
| rejon | CC_EVENT_UPLOAD_FILES | 17:57 |
| rejon | and then have its way when a file is uploaded | 17:57 |
| tannewt | should the class be specific to the file type? | 17:57 |
| rejon | CCEvents::AddHandler(CC_EVENT_UPLOAD_FILES, array( 'CLASS_NAME', 'METHOD_NAME_CALLBACK')); | 17:59 |
| rejon | I would make a generic filter class | 17:59 |
| rejon | and then extend it with per file type | 17:59 |
| rejon | I would add the generic in cclib | 17:59 |
| rejon | and the per-file-type in ccextras | 17:59 |
| rejon | I would however emai the list first | 17:59 |
| tannewt | hmm, alright | 17:59 |
| rejon | I'm not sure what victor is working on right now | 17:59 |
| tannewt | okay will do | 17:59 |
| rejon | so better to not cross feet | 18:00 |
| tannewt | yup | 18:00 |
| rejon | plus, half the time when someone emails, the code might be implemented and sitting on his computer, or he will just do it for you | 18:00 |
| tannewt | right | 18:00 |
| rejon | its pretty easy though with the event mechanism to add | 18:00 |
| tannewt | brb | 18:01 |
| rejon | so, I would 1.) add up to cctools, 2.) email the list with the URLs to feature requests 3.) have fun! 4.) submit a patch 5.) I give you dev. level access 6.) we have party | 18:01 |
| tannewt | add up to cctools? | 18:06 |
| rejon | yep | 18:06 |
| rejon | to the feature requests (RFE) | 18:06 |
| rejon | they might already exists | 18:07 |
| rejon | so can add comments | 18:07 |
| tannewt | ah ok | 18:07 |
| rejon | flesh out | 18:07 |
| rejon | its good to go through IMO...helps to firm up plans | 18:07 |
| tannewt | right | 18:07 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus, thanks for the stats update | 18:11 |
| rejon | like my topic in #icommons | 18:19 |
| rejon | so, basically, looks like we need to abstract the cc-renderimage.php, cc-renderflash.php, cc-renderaudio.php in cclib | 18:20 |
| rejon | for thumbnails tannewt | 18:20 |
| rejon | we need cc-render.php | 18:21 |
| rejon | then extend those classes and move over similar methods | 18:21 |
| tannewt | class time, bye | 18:22 |
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| rejon | dude, psychic mode on gaim is so cool | 18:22 |
| paulproteus | ? | 18:22 |
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| rejon | paulproteus: gaim 2.0.0 has a mode called psychic that opens up a chat window when someone starts typing or opens your name for typing...so you can know the IM is coming... | 18:36 |
| paulproteus | Freaky. | 18:37 |
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| paulproteus | #joiito mentions http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6042306.stm | 19:16 |
| paulproteus | CNN's web site http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6042306.stm - "The FBI has told the BBC that there is no indication that the crash is terrorism-related." | 19:18 |
| paulproteus | Er, s/CNN's web site// | 19:18 |
| rejon | shit | 19:19 |
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| tannewt | rejon, does cchost load exif data? | 19:50 |
| rejon | not yet | 19:50 |
| rejon | want to | 19:50 |
| tannewt | rejon, is there a feature request for it? | 19:52 |
| rejon | not ye | 19:52 |
| rejon | t | 19:52 |
| rejon | plz file | 19:52 |
| tannewt | okay will do | 19:52 |
| tannewt | rejon, does it do thumbnails for anything yet? | 19:54 |
| rejon | bitmap images | 19:57 |
| rejon | could you add my thoughts to the RFE | 19:57 |
| rejon | about cc-render.php abstraction | 19:57 |
| rejon | man, I hope this thing in NYC isn't terrorism | 19:57 |
| rejon | ugh | 19:57 |
| tannewt | okay sweet | 19:59 |
| tannewt | rejon, it didn't do a thumbnail, http://openroadtrip.net/cchost/media/view/media/photos | 20:09 |
| rejon | did you enable thumbnails in the admin menu? | 20:09 |
| tannewt | haha, no | 20:09 |
| tannewt | where would I find that option? | 20:10 |
| tannewt | nvm, found it | 20:10 |
| tannewt | thanks rejon, bye | 20:16 |
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| rejon | http://freetube.co.nr/ | 21:10 |
| rejon | what | 21:10 |
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