| bkhl | I told him that. | 00:24 |
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| bkhl | But I just got it from that page. | 00:24 |
| bkhl | I don't know where the name confusion comes from, though. | 00:25 |
| zwnj | bkhl: yes, that's ok. tnx. | 00:25 |
| zwnj | bkhl: oh, is it a confusion?! | 00:25 |
| bkhl | I don't know. | 00:25 |
| bkhl | Maybe I'm just confused. | 00:26 |
| zwnj | bkhl: no, the name and address you gave me is same as i18n commons page | 00:26 |
| bkhl | OK. | 00:27 |
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| zwnj | are non-by licenses deprecated? if yes, why there's also on the licenses page without a note. if no, why their version is 1.0 (is it because their legal code is the best it could be?) | 02:32 |
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| jugglinx | sylvinus, are u around? | 20:53 |
| sylvinus | yes | 21:28 |
| sylvinus | jugglinx, why? | 21:28 |
| jugglinx | coz AFAIK you re the webmaster of jamendo rigth? | 21:29 |
| sylvinus | yes | 21:29 |
| jugglinx | im trying to make something similar, but in argentina... and i would like to know which kind of connection are u using for your server... | 21:30 |
| sylvinus | uh ;) | 21:30 |
| sylvinus | we are funded by the luxembourg government | 21:30 |
| sylvinus | so we get free gigabits ;) | 21:30 |
| jugglinx | coz i been working in this project for about a month now, but i don t see it now economicaly viable... | 21:31 |
| jugglinx | ok, that s awesome! you start like that from the begining? | 21:31 |
| sylvinus | no, we were a non-profit at the beginning | 21:31 |
| sylvinus | re | 21:33 |
| sylvinus | it's a long-run thing | 21:33 |
| jugglinx | well, mine is diff. i don t think people have money for donation in argentina, do we re thinking in ask the bands for live shows... and with that promote the web and the CC license also... | 21:33 |
| jugglinx | i think the same... patience, but i haven t money for invest :-( | 21:34 |
| sylvinus | jugglinx, what you could do is use jamendo for hosting the music and focus on other more important aspects of the work with artists | 21:34 |
| jugglinx | that could be really nice :-) | 21:35 |
| sylvinus | we've been doing that for 1 year now... it's quite obvious that being hosted isn't enough | 21:35 |
| sylvinus | a band needs more to get media attention | 21:36 |
| jugglinx | yep, so i have this idea... | 21:36 |
| jugglinx | go to all the concerts and have presence in the live shows.. and... | 21:36 |
| sylvinus | record them ? | 21:36 |
| jugglinx | if the bands want even give CDs for fre... | 21:37 |
| jugglinx | yep, but in video ;-) | 21:37 |
| sylvinus | most bands won't give their cd for free | 21:37 |
| jugglinx | an make documentals, and video clips | 21:37 |
| jugglinx | i know, but we can also give a " recopilatory" of diff. bands... | 21:38 |
| sylvinus | in France, amateur/semi-pro bands mostly sell their CD and give away the live recordings | 21:38 |
| jugglinx | ok, i didn t think in that, that s sounds good :-) | 21:39 |
| sylvinus | if your project takes off we could do a special page with all your bands/recordings | 21:39 |
| sylvinus | I think giving away things like live recordings is a good incentive to make people buy the studio one | 21:40 |
| sylvinus | maybe the other way is good too | 21:40 |
| sylvinus | but the recording has to be good in that case | 21:40 |
| jugglinx | yep, i like your idea ... but... that s what i was about to say ... | 21:41 |
| jugglinx | also giving a recopilatory allow us to promote another bands " associated" | 21:42 |
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| jugglinx | the real thing is put an stand in each concert and inform, both public and bands about CC license and the page... | 21:45 |
| jugglinx | the idea of give CDs is extra, but i tell you, most bands like it... | 21:46 |
| sylvinus | yep | 21:49 |
| sylvinus | stands would definitely be a good thing | 21:49 |
| sylvinus | we did 2 jamendolives in France | 21:50 |
| jugglinx | and festivals... :-) | 21:50 |
| sylvinus | the audience was very receptive to CC, and interested. | 21:50 |
| jugglinx | yep, i saw it :-) | 21:50 |
| sylvinus | we have yet to release the videos ;) | 21:50 |
| jugglinx | of course, i think we should open the eyes of the public and not just the bands eyes... | 21:50 |
| jugglinx | sorry, but first of make a choice i need to know... is jamendo using 100 % free software? | 21:51 |
| sylvinus | heh ;) proudly running on 5 gentoo boxes ;) | 21:53 |
| jugglinx | wow! and all is hosted in MP3s? | 21:54 |
| sylvinus | all our apps are GPL, too | 21:54 |
| sylvinus | we have FLAC+OGG+MP3. maybe AAC soon | 21:54 |
| jugglinx | i would like to hosted in ogg, and MP3s by bittorrents or emule ;-) | 21:55 |
| sylvinus | we publish everything on BT+eMule in higher quality, MP3 and OGG, too | 21:55 |
| jugglinx | not in the web then? | 21:55 |
| sylvinus | streaming is <128kbits | 21:56 |
| sylvinus | p2p is >192kbps | 21:56 |
| jugglinx | that s sounds really good :-D | 21:57 |
| jugglinx | could i conserve my name... like a section of jamendo, maybe? | 21:58 |
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| jugglinx | p2p is >192kbps ---> which how many users? | 21:59 |
| sylvinus | what do you mean conserve your name ? | 22:00 |
| sylvinus | we had 151910 finished bittorrent download in the last 7 months | 22:00 |
| jugglinx | well, i was thinked in a name... and i really liked.. so maybe i could have a section of jamendo called like that, or u allow me to host the entire web? | 22:01 |
| sylvinus | add eMule and that's more than 300.000 ;) | 22:01 |
| sylvinus | jugglinx, we can tag the albums with your name | 22:01 |
| jugglinx | yep, i see the stats and i couldn t believe it... | 22:01 |
| sylvinus | hosting a whole web is much more painful... | 22:01 |
| jugglinx | the name mean share art but in spanish :-) | 22:02 |
| jugglinx | i know, that s why i was asking... | 22:02 |
| sylvinus | I'm 50% spanish ;) | 22:02 |
| sylvinus | what's the name ? | 22:02 |
| jugglinx | artecomparte | 22:03 |
| sylvinus | muy bueno ;) | 22:03 |
| jugglinx | i knew you would liked :-) | 22:03 |
| sylvinus | well, that's good ! | 22:04 |
| sylvinus | more international music is really good... i'm quite sick of french bands (oooooppssss ;-) | 22:04 |
| jugglinx | hehe, yep, there s almost none spanish ones :-) | 22:05 |
| sylvinus | we opened the translation not so long ago | 22:05 |
| sylvinus | it takes time | 22:05 |
| jugglinx | yep, i see it... but the artist didn t realize yet... | 22:05 |
| sylvinus | I think we have 10 spanish albums in the publication queue | 22:06 |
| jugglinx | that s why i say to have presence in the live shows... and the same bands will help us with that ;-) | 22:06 |
| sylvinus | ;) | 22:06 |
| sylvinus | I went to many concerts at the beginning of jamendo | 22:06 |
| sylvinus | sometimes 2 or 3 in the same evening ;) | 22:07 |
| sylvinus | it was really intersting to get in touch with so many artists | 22:07 |
| sylvinus | it's a shame we haven't so much time left to go out now :/ | 22:08 |
| jugglinx | one of my requirements for bands is that they should make one of the members part of the satff and help with the stand thing... | 22:08 |
| jugglinx | staff | 22:08 |
| sylvinus | one of the players ? often they have a friend that does that | 22:08 |
| jugglinx | here in argentina internet isn t a massive thing yet... | 22:09 |
| jugglinx | well yes, but not the same day they play, of course... | 22:09 |
| jugglinx | to help between the bands... | 22:09 |
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| jugglinx | and what about the donations? how we can share that? | 22:12 |
| jugglinx | i don t think they come to much from argentina... but jamendo is already knowed... | 22:13 |
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| jugglinx | how far did u read, sylvinus_ ? | 22:22 |
| sylvinus_ | oh ok, inter-band cooperation... that's good | 22:25 |
| sylvinus_ | some jamendo artists have begun recording together... | 22:25 |
| jugglinx | making splits? | 22:26 |
| sylvinus_ | hmm, side projects I think | 22:26 |
| sylvinus_ | for the moment | 22:26 |
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| jugglinx | nice :-) | 22:27 |
| jugglinx | and what about the donations? how we can share that? | 22:27 |
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| sylvinus_ | we only take 50cents on each donation, to pay for our expenses | 23:00 |
| sylvinus_ | credit card stuff | 23:00 |
| sylvinus_ | everything goes to the artist after that... | 23:00 |
| jugglinx | ahh, ok.. i think u work in % | 23:01 |
| jugglinx | though* | 23:01 |
| mlinksva | sylvinus, interested in what you think about that last weblog post. jamendo interested in hooking into the remix graph? | 23:03 |
| mlinksva | i mean sylvinus_ | 23:03 |
| bkhl | Heh. | 23:04 |
| sylvinus_ | ;) | 23:06 |
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| sylvinus_ | ok I just read about it. it's just great... | 23:08 |
| sylvinus_ | I love it | 23:08 |
| sylvinus_ | let's beta test that | 23:09 |
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| jugglinx | it s jamendo running CChost? | 23:13 |
| sylvinus_ | no | 23:13 |
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| jugglinx | ok, im almost sure that i will acept the hosting :-) | 23:28 |
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| jugglinx | but let me think if i have more doubts... | 23:28 |
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| sylvinus_ | no problem ! | 23:31 |
| jugglinx | why when u heard from the MP3, there s someone like appears like anonymous...? | 23:31 |
| sylvinus_ | ah, right ;-) we have yet to translate this one | 23:32 |
| sylvinus_ | it just asks you to register to discover more bands | 23:32 |
| sylvinus_ | (you get the recommendation tools only when you're logged in) | 23:32 |
| jugglinx | ok, im not register yet :-) | 23:33 |
| jugglinx | did u want jamendos logos in the concerts? | 23:36 |
| jugglinx | at first when u go to concerts did u give stickers of jamendo, for example...? | 23:38 |
| mlinksva | does jamendo have stickers? i want one for my laptop. :) could also give out a large number at sxsw | 23:40 |
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| jugglinx | i was just wondering mlinksva | 23:42 |
| jugglinx | but i also want somes :-D | 23:42 |
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| sylvinus_ | mlinksva, yes we have like 50 left | 23:57 |
| sylvinus_ | maybe we can do more and send you a shipment ;) | 23:58 |
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| sylvinus_ | jugglinx, yes at the beginning we printed some flyers for the artists | 23:58 |
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