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| paulproteus | greg_g, California yet? | 06:32 |
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| mib_4wb9ej1o | hello all | 10:46 |
| mib_4wb9ej1o | i need cc info | 10:46 |
| mib_4wb9ej1o | can any one | 10:46 |
| mib_4wb9ej1o | plz | 10:46 |
| mib_4wb9ej1o | any one | 10:47 |
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| greg_g | paulproteus: California now | 15:44 |
| greg_g | paulproteus: at the Google offices now getting some stuff ready before the start of day 1 | 15:44 |
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| paulproteus | Cthuugle! | 16:36 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: are you ok handling the civicrm queries for melissa? rather, ping me if you have problems/questions? | 18:18 |
| nkinkade | nathany: yeah. I just sent out an email. | 18:18 |
| nkinkade | Did you already get that? | 18:18 |
| nathany | yup, just wanted to double check | 18:19 |
| nathany | thanks | 18:19 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm making that my priority this afternoon. | 18:20 |
| nathany | great | 18:24 |
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| paulproteus | These Web Workers are phenomenal. | 18:49 |
| m3cr3d1s | nkinkade: do you have access to sciencecommons.org | 18:49 |
| m3cr3d1s | ? | 18:49 |
| paulproteus | nathany, We said 1 PM for our Ekiga chat? | 18:49 |
| nathany | yes | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: Yes. | 18:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | OK | 18:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | can I send you a zip to put in their wordpress dir? | 18:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | or any dir? | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: Sure send it along. | 18:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | thanks | 18:50 |
| m3cr3d1s | momentarily | 18:50 |
| Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: i've got a couple more staff videos to shoot, i'll email you the movs later today | 18:51 |
| m3cr3d1s | great | 18:51 |
| m3cr3d1s | hopefully the aren't too large? | 18:52 |
| Bovinity | nah | 18:52 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I'll join you in-office. | 18:52 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: didn't know you'd be back today, you can give a thanks message to the board too | 18:52 |
| * paulproteus nods | 18:53 | |
| paulproteus | I emailed Jen asking if you guys would wait. | 18:53 |
| paulproteus | Guess I should have replied to staff-sf. *shrug* | 18:54 |
| Bovinity | well i have to do mel's, and reshoot ani.. so your timing is impeccable. | 18:54 |
| paulproteus | Oh, okay, that's a relief. | 18:55 |
| m3cr3d1s | nkinkade: sent | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: Got it. I assume you've okayed all this with SC? | 18:57 |
| m3cr3d1s | yeah have been working all day on http://sciencecommons.org/about/science-commons-dylan-video/ | 18:58 |
| Bovinity | m3cr3d1s: i was wondering if there would be a page like that for the video | 19:00 |
| m3cr3d1s | :) | 19:00 |
| nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: Is the idea of this directory just to avoid having to tediously upload dozens of images? | 19:00 |
| m3cr3d1s | yes | 19:01 |
| m3cr3d1s | 80+ | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | scp -r ! | 19:01 |
| m3cr3d1s | if only I had a key | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | Oh, but m3cr3d1s lacks a shell. | 19:01 |
| paulproteus | Right. | 19:01 |
| nkinkade | scp something.zip! | 19:01 |
| m3cr3d1s | I'm well aware of the -r flag thank you very much | 19:02 |
| paulproteus | I figured you were! | 19:02 |
| nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: I put it in wp-content/resources | 19:03 |
| m3cr3d1s | oh thanks | 19:03 |
| m3cr3d1s | ok | 19:03 |
| nkinkade | But I wonder if a better dir name would be in order. | 19:03 |
| m3cr3d1s | so full url is sc.org/wp-content/resources | 19:03 |
| m3cr3d1s | hey, its up to you | 19:03 |
| nkinkade | Let's give it a name that will be recognizable to anyone who stumbles across it. | 19:03 |
| paulproteus | Fun without Cliches | 19:03 |
| paulproteus | Fun without Clichés highlights clichés in your post when you preview it. -- http://planet.wordpress.org/ | 19:03 |
| nkinkade | science-commons-dylan-video? | 19:03 |
| m3cr3d1s | sure, but so long as the wp rewrite stuff doesn't get fonfused | 19:04 |
| m3cr3d1s | *confused | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | m3cr3d1s: http://sciencecommons.org/wp-content/science-commons-dylan-video/thumbr_002.jpg | 19:04 |
| nkinkade | For example. | 19:05 |
| m3cr3d1s | thx | 19:05 |
| paulproteus | Either Fx 3.1 beta 2's UI is hanging for no reason, or my twisted strategy of injecting Web Workers into a page's DOM from an extension is driving it batty. | 19:11 |
| Bovinity | while fx's ui does *love* to hang for no reason, it's probably the latter | 19:11 |
| paulproteus | Apparently it does the same thing without me having done that, so I'm leaning toward the former. | 19:12 |
| * paulproteus tested a Web Worker that wasn't injected in by him | 19:12 | |
| paulproteus | The Fx 3.2 alpha doesn't seem to have this particular problem. | 19:14 |
| paulproteus | This is a pre-release of a beta I'm testing, so it's not so surprising that it has flaws. I'll wait for the real beta 2 and then see about reporting it. | 19:14 |
| paulproteus | I think it's very interesting that the Escape key doesn't stop web workers. | 19:16 |
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| OsamaK_ | nkinkade, hi | 20:01 |
| OsamaK_ | nkinkade, What happened last time? | 20:01 |
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| nkinkade | OsamaK: hi | 20:02 |
| nkinkade | I messaged you, but you had dropped offline. | 20:02 |
| nkinkade | http://staging.creativecommons.org/license/?lang=ar | 20:03 |
| OsamaK | then you can mail me :) | 20:03 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, in <http://staging.creativecommons.org/license/?lang=ar> links are not going to the Arabic version, Any idea why? | 20:04 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Which links? | 20:05 |
| nkinkade | You mean once the form is filled out? | 20:05 |
| OsamaK | "CC-GNU GPL" for example | 20:05 |
| nkinkade | Probabyl because the jurisdiction isn't marked as being launched. | 20:06 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, <http://creativecommons.org/licenses/LGPL/2.1/deed.ar> does not exist; Is there any way to check it? | 20:07 |
| nkinkade | I'll have to mark the jurisdiction as launched. Let me check that now ... | 20:08 |
| OsamaK | Would be great. | 20:08 |
| OsamaK | note me when it become ready, please. | 20:14 |
| Bovinity | http://blog.seanklassen.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/vin.jpg | 20:17 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/jo/ | 20:20 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: For the pages like the CC GPL that aren't linked with lang=ar, just append that yourself, which should work. | 20:22 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, I guess CC it not ready yet for Jordan, some lawyer are working upon it, but it is not read yet. <http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/jo/legalcode> | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Oh my GOD, workers can run from XUL! | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | MUAHAH! | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | And they properly go to the other CPU from the UI. | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Right, the legalcode hasn't been produced yet, at least not in HTML format. | 20:24 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, btw, I'm not from Jordan, so I just made an Arabic translation, but didn't 'localize' it to Jordan | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: The project leads for Jordan can take that into account if they want to use what you've done so far. | 20:25 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, My point was that there is no Arabic language in the list of "This page is available in the following languages:" | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Do you think there will be many differences between the Arabic you have use and what is used in Jordan? | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Don't worry about details like that at this point. That will all resolve itself when the licenses actually launch. | 20:26 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, no, it must be the same. | 20:26 |
| OsamaK | nkinkade, so the Arabic translation will not be published until the Jordan version of the licenses become ready? | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: Exactly. | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | Sorry if there was confusion about that. | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | We generally only have languages available for those jurisdictions that have ported the licenses. | 20:27 |
| OsamaK | hum.. OK. :-| | 20:28 |
| nkinkade | However, your translation efforts can be used by Jordan, and also by any other jurisdictions that may port the licenses. | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: I apologize if that wasn't clear. This is why it has taken a bit of time to get your translations working on the staging server, because requests like yours aren't usual, and now I see where the confusion was. | 20:30 |
| OsamaK | No problem. The important thing is that my work will be used somewhere sometime on cc_org. | 20:31 |
| OsamaK | I'll complete and send it soon. | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | OsamaK: I'll also alert the CC Jordan people that you've been working on this, and give them the links to the staging server tests. | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | Thanks for you help. I hope it helps them to launch the licenses sooner. | 20:33 |
| paulproteus | nathany, I guess if we want to look hip, we should techblog about Web Workers from XUL... | 20:34 |
| nathany | paulproteus: do they just work or are you injecting them into the page? | 20:34 |
| paulproteus | They work either way. | 20:34 |
| paulproteus | I've now tried both. | 20:34 |
| paulproteus | There are still tragic performance issues we have that e.g. Operator doesn't, I believe due to our choice of hooks. I'll investigate that next. | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | I've only done a demo to myself that Web Workers work async'ly, not integrated it fully into MozCC. | 20:35 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yeah, definitely sounds like a techblog post | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | I'll head in now; see you shortly. | 20:35 |
| paulproteus | I'll save the techblog post for tomorrow, but agreed. | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, nathany, I'll be a little late, like 10m. See you soon. | 20:51 |
| nathany | ok | 20:52 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: we're getting some things set up here... probably be ready to go in 10 or so | 21:14 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Just let me know. | 21:15 |
| nathany | nkinkade: feel free to dial in; i'm in the room now, just setting up the other laptop for recording | 21:16 |
| paulproteus | http://eugeneciurana.com/~zhenya01/books/aw_pgsql_book/node65.html | 21:48 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Did the call drop? | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | I can't hear anyone suddenly. | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I'm back. | 22:10 |
| nkinkade | I got dropped from my wifi connection for some reason. | 22:10 |
| nathany | nkinkade: no problem -- still talking about translate | 22:11 |
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| Steren | hi! | 22:59 |
| nkinkade1 | paulproteus: I think this is the query: select civicrm_contact.id, first_name, last_name from civicrm_contact left join civicrm_contribution c1 on civicrm_contact.id = c1.contact_id left join civicrm_contribution c2 on civicrm_contact.id = c2.contact_id left join civicrm_contribution c3 on civicrm_contact.id = c3.contact_id where c1.receive_date like '2006%' and c2.receive_date like '2007%' and c3.receive_date like '2008%' and c1. | 23:06 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Your message was trunc | 23:47 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: It was a bit long. Just as well. | 23:48 |
| nkinkade | Anyway, I found the query to get that data. Now I'm stuck on another. It might be simple and I'm just not seeing. | 23:48 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Want to give it a stab? | 23:48 |
| paulproteus | Sure, fire away. | 23:48 |
| nkinkade | So the other query pulled people who donated in all of 06, 07 and 08. | 23:49 |
| paulproteus | Ad now you want "two of"? | 23:49 |
| paulproteus | s/Ad/And/ | 23:49 |
| nkinkade | Now I need to find out who donated in 16, NOT in 07, but then again in 08. | 23:49 |
| paulproteus | Okay. | 23:49 |
| nkinkade | The SQL logic is getting muddled in my head. | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | Do you want a pastebin of the other working query? | 23:50 |
| paulproteus | Stating that broad a negative query will suck. | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | http://cc.pastebin.com/m2caad0e7 | 23:51 |
| paulproteus | Sweet, a valid cc! | 23:51 |
| nkinkade | I was down for a while. | 23:51 |
| paulproteus | ? | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | An even this time it gave me an "Under construction" page before seemingly allowing me to paste that. | 23:52 |
| paulproteus | Ah. | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | It. | 23:52 |
| paulproteus | I'd just do this in SQLAlchemy or something. | 23:52 |
| paulproteus | So I can toss in some Python logic. | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | My initial attempt was to simply ask c2 to return things that have 06 or 08, but not 07. | 23:53 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Will SQLAlchemy show the SQL it would run? | 23:54 |
| paulproteus | But then you don't know if they have an 07. | 23:54 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, I think so. | 23:54 |
| paulproteus | But I'd just do most of the logic in Python and stop trying to think in SQL. | 23:54 |
| paulproteus | http://infolab.stanford.edu/~ullman/fcdb/oracle/my-nonstandard.html#intersect | 23:56 |
| paulproteus | I like that plan. | 23:56 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to get back to MozCC stuff for now. | 23:56 |
| paulproteus | I would also read http://pages.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/~kawash/papers/wccce00.html . | 23:57 |
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