Monday, 2008-11-17

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dsmecredis: you around?03:33
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mecredisds: for the next 10 seconds05:24
mecrediswhats up?05:24
mecredishow is dirac?05:24
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paulproteusnathany, Morning.17:27
paulproteusnathany, See you in the office a shade after 10.17:27
nathanygreat17:27
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nkinkadenathany:  Would you have any issue with me merging the CSS based NC icon changes to production?18:26
nkinkadeIs cc.engine using svnmerge?18:27
nathanyno issues (esp since you'll still need to re-gen before it's "really" live)18:27
nathanyand yes, it's using svnmerge18:27
nkinkadePerfect.18:27
paulproteusnathany, When you have a sec, let's sync().18:40
nathanyok, one second18:40
nkinkadenathany: Do you know of any reason why svnmerge avail wouldn't know about new commits to trunk for cc.engine?18:58
nkinkadeI can try to dig for it, but figured you might have some quick suggestions.18:58
nathanynkinkade: nope... unless it thinks they're already merged?19:13
nathanynkinkade: you can look at the svn properties that svnmerge uses and see if those revs are included19:13
nkinkadenathany: Well, svnmerge integrated doesn't reveal anything interesting either.19:13
nathanyit doesn't show those revs as being integrated?19:14
nkinkadeIn fact, svnmerge integrated seems to not jive with svn log.19:15
nathany(i'm updating now to see what it shows for me)19:15
nkinkadeOn my checkout of production svnmerge integrated says only 8439-8722, yet I can look through the svn logs and see places where other things were merged.19:16
paulproteusBTW, you all should stop using svnmerge.py and start using svn 1.5's built-in merge support.19:20
paulproteusSince they're the same, but the latter is better-supported.19:20
paulproteusnathany, cchost in /var/www/translate.creativecommons.org/po/cchost is not a checkout of anything, svn or otherwise.19:35
paulproteusI should make the Mozootle one a checkout...?19:35
nathanypaulproteus: yes19:36
paulproteusGreat.19:36
nathanynkinkade: looks like production thinks it's merging from the labs branch for some reason19:37
nathanythat explains why the integrated revs are bogus19:37
nathanyprobably worth looking back through history to see where that went amiss (since props are versioned)19:37
paulproteusI thought props aren't versioned.19:39
paulproteusThey're just changeable.19:39
paulproteusMaybe I'm on crack, it's hard to tell sometimes.19:39
paulproteusOh, it's *revision* properties that aren't versioned, I think.19:40
paulproteusBut file properties, sure.19:40
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paulproteusnathany: a7:/var/www/translate.creativecommons.org/po/ccpublisher# svn info19:46
paulproteusPath: .19:46
paulproteusURL: https://svn.berlios.de/svnroot/repos/cctools/publisher/trunk/resources/locale19:46
paulproteusIs this still the right place for ccpublisher?19:47
nathanypaulproteus: as right as we get right now, yes19:47
paulproteusGreat.19:47
paulproteus(Any reason not to svnadmin dump that into code-dot?)19:48
paulproteus(And then close up shop in Berlios?)19:48
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mecredisheh. yousendit is down20:11
mecredishttp://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/yousendit.com20:11
paulproteusDon't you have servers of your own you can upload files to?20:13
paulproteusOr of CC's? (-:20:13
mecredisjust someone's link to something20:21
mecredisisn't working20:21
mecredisnot a cc problem, as it were20:21
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nkinkadenathany: Was paulproteus right?  If not, how does one go about viewing property revision history?20:34
nkinkadeSeems that propget will accept a revision number argument, but that's going to be tedious.20:43
nkinkadenathany: It seems to have somehow occurred on your commit 10727.20:48
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nkinkadeOr actually revision 10729.21:05
nkinkadenathany: Is the best thing in this case to just take the last known good value of svnmerge-integrated and then do a propset on it with that value?21:05
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nathanynkinkade: yeah, that's probably reasonable -- not sure what you're asking about wrt paulproteus21:16
paulproteusNo worries wrt what nkinkade was asking wrt me.21:16
nkinkadepaulproteus made some mention about properties not being revisioned, then questioned himself, then seemingly corrected himself, but it wasn't clearr to me.21:16
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paulproteusI agree that that's what I did.21:24
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pjkhanyone up for a quick question about attributing an image?  I'm trying to find guidelines on where the attribution should go -- that is, would it be okay to put the attribution in the footer of the site or does it need to "go with the image"?21:43
paulproteusIn the footer of the site should be fine.21:44
paulproteusI'm not a lawyer, blah blah.21:44
pjkh:) figure that's better than nothing.  just don't have much room near the image to do it.21:44
pjkhthanks paulproteus21:44
paulproteusThe FAQ answers this a bit.21:44
paulproteusBut it points out that you should put attribution wherever you normally put credits on the site/film/etc.21:45
pjkhah. gotcha. thanks21:45
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paulproteusnathany, /me continues to borrow your headphones21:55
nathanyuh, ok21:55
nkinkadenathany: When adding a new language.  Is it necessary to manually change or commit anything to the CC-style po files?21:59
nkinkadeI don't recall having had to do that in the past.21:59
nathanynkinkade: you'll have to once they do the translation21:59
nkinkadeBut now cc2po is throwing an error, complaining that i18n/en_SG doesn't exist.22:00
nkinkadeWhen I did en_HK I don't recall having had to touch anything in i18n.22:00
nkinkadenathany: en_SG is just a copy of en_GB, so it's nearly complete.22:01
nathanyi guess it sounds like you need to create the directory at least22:01
nkinkadeHmm.  I pretty sure I didn't do that with en_HK, but oh well, I'll try to manually make the dir.22:02
nathanyrespectfully, you were sort of cracked out on cold medicine (or at least with a cold) during HK deployment :)22:02
nkinkadeChange that ... i18n/en_SG exists, the script is complaining that cc_org.po doesn't exist in that dir.22:03
nathanywait, you're running cc2po22:03
nathanyand it's complaining that i18n/en_SG/cc_org.po doesn't exist?22:03
nathanythat actually sounds sane to me -- isn't that where it looks for the CC style po files?22:04
nkinkadeNo, sorry, I meant po2cc22:04
nkinkadenathany: ^^, and i was running po2cc, I just typed it wrong above.22:05
nathanyah22:05
nathanystill semi-sane22:05
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nkinkadeI just touched the po file.22:05
nkinkadeThen it ran fine.22:05
nathanyit looks for the old version to make comparisons and figure out if the english has changed22:05
nathanyright22:05
nkinkadeThe main reason I asked was that I didnt' recall doing that for en_HK, but I was in haze at that time from that cold.22:06
nathany:)22:06
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Bovinitythat'll teach me to have my laptop crash at the weekend. oh hai irc.22:15
nkinkadeBovinity: It's unforgivable.  Don't let it happen again.22:24
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nkinkadenathany: Have you seen this error before in mkdeeds: DocTestFailureException: Failed doctest test for mkdeeds.txt23:18
nathanynkinkade: i've probably seen it23:19
nathanyit's the most generic error you could get -- basically *something* went wrong23:19
nathanyis there a traceback?23:19
nkinkadeThere is, but it's not any clearer to me.  I'll pastebin it.23:20
nkinkadenathany: The ultimate error is:  httperror_seek_wrapper: HTTP Error 500: Internal Server Error23:20
nkinkadeBut that seemed even more vague to me than the first I posted.23:20
nathanythat means something's throwing an error when it tries to render the deed23:21
nathanyi'd try to run it in the foreground (./bin/cc-engine fg)23:21
nkinkadeAh, yes.23:21
nathanyand try to access the deeds for the new jurisdiction you've added23:21
nkinkadeI'll try that: http://cc.pastebin.com/m5d0200c723:21
nkinkadeFor what it's worth.23:22
nathanyyeah, not very specific23:22
nkinkadeI'll do the fg bit and see what I get.23:22
nathanythat should make the licenses available at http://localhost:8080/licenses/23:23
nkinkadePort 9080. :-)23:27
nkinkadenathany: It seems to be choking on something to do with jurisdictions.css.23:28
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nkinkadeTraversalError: (<zope.app.publisher.browser.directoryresource.DirectoryResource object at 0xb21b68c>, 'jurisdictions.css')23:29
nathanyis jurisdictions.css really in svn and getting pulled into cc/engine/skins/resources/ ... ?23:29
nkinkadenathany: Right, it's not there.23:30
nkinkadeSadly, but it will be in a moment. :-)23:30
nathany:)23:31
nkinkadeOkay, the foreground bit for deed generation is something I had seen, but forgot about.  I'll drop that one into my tool belt not to forget again.23:31
nathanyit shoudl be enough to just "touch" it -- the resource machinery just makes sure it exists23:31
nathany:)23:31
nkinkadeI guess I'll go ahead and merge it in, just to be done with it.23:34
mlinksvaif you have a /. acct http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=174061323:35
paulproteusnathany, In the future of Pootle permissions, shouldn't we just give language admins equal access to all projects?23:36
paulproteusFeel free to not answer; I think you'll see the sense of that once I have that report you asked for. (-:23:36
nathanypaulproteus: the only counter-argument that comes to mind is that we may wish to be more liberal with who gets commit/admin access for things other than cc.org23:37
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paulproteusYeah, that's what I was thinking.23:37
nkinkadeBovinity: Where is the intersection between the ccwordpress/branches/production/www/includes and the git repository?23:46
Bovinitynkinkade: www/includes has some svn:externals23:46
Bovinityafaik, no git content23:46
nkinkadeBovinity: Sorry.  I was thinking of two totally different things.23:47
Bovinitynkinkade: apparently23:47
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Bovinityshit be all over the place today, it seems.23:48
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