Friday, 2008-10-31

paulproteushttp://translate.svn.sourceforge.net/00:21
paulproteusHow I love SourceFrog.00:21
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pottycan i put a creative commons video on youtube?16:45
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nkinkadenathany: Did you see that email about the the CC Network invite that apparently didn't get sent?17:30
nkinkadeDo you keep any log about the output of get_commoners.py?17:30
nkinkadeI do see that a mail was successfully sent to a kyle@, so it maybe stuck in some mail queue on his end.17:31
nathanynkinkade: i saw but haven't looked17:33
nathanyi do keep a log and i can look and see17:33
nathanymore likely is that he didn't put in a number of periods for the contribution, so it didn't get triggered17:33
nkinkadenathany: I think everything is fine, so nothing to do at the moment, but could you point me to that log.17:33
nkinkadeThat could be.17:33
nathanynot a log per se, it just emails me the output of the cron job17:34
nkinkadeI guess I should put a priority on implementing that change to the recurring form.17:34
nathanyyes17:34
nkinkadeCould that go to webmaster@CC.net?17:34
nkinkadenathany: The form is ready, but I never heard any feedback from anyone.  I guess I should just implement it and be done with it, and if Mel doesn't like it then we can change it.17:41
nathanyMel replied to us saying it was correct, i thought17:41
nkinkadeIf she did, it slipped past my attention.  But she might have.  I think what I've got works and is reasonable, so I'll just implement it.17:43
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nathanynkinkade: sure, i'll look quick17:50
nathanynkinkade: looks like you said you were going to add an "indefinite" radio button and ping us both and then melissa said she'd look at what you sent, but then the thread dropped17:52
nathanyso did you add the button?17:52
nathany(radio)17:52
nathany(for indefinite) and update the monthly amount if the total is changed17:53
nkinkadeI was thinking to make the indefinite a separate page.17:53
nkinkadeIt seemed confusing to opt for multiple payments then suddenly have some other option.17:53
nathanyok17:54
nkinkadeNot terribly confusing, but something akin to what we had before.17:54
nkinkadeI'm open to options, though.17:54
nathanyi probably wouldn't bother making a separate page until you talk to Bovinity and figure out how it gets linked into the site17:54
nathanyso i'd just go ahead and make it so the monthly amount changes if the "other" amount is changed17:54
nathanyand then deploy17:54
nkinkadenathany: It should change automatically already.17:56
nathanyok great17:56
nkinkadeThat is, if you change the other amount the value displayed should update automatically, was it not working?17:56
nathanynope, not working17:57
nathany(on http://zupport.creativecommons.org/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=20&donation=144&split=1)17:57
nathanyand is the goal to make a single page that does both recurring and one-time?17:57
nathanyif not, why the radio button for one-time?17:58
nathanynkinkade: i'm going offline momentarily for a break out session, so maybe ask MR if you have questions18:02
nkinkadenathany: Not sure why it's not working now.  It was working last week.  I'll figure out what happened and then get back with   you.  Ignore the other stuff on that page.18:02
nathanyok18:02
nkinkadeBeing a test page I didn't bother to clean  it up.18:02
nathany:)18:02
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nkinkadepaulproteus: Would you believe me if I told you that git-svn was still running for CiviCRM?19:45
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naufragiopaulproteus: ping19:52
paulproteuspong to both y'all19:52
paulproteusnkinkade, I would be surprised.19:52
naufragiopaulproteus: pm19:52
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nkinkadepaulproteus: Then be surprised.19:54
paulproteusEgad.19:54
paulproteusI'm surprised.19:54
nkinkadepaulproteus: It appears to be going through the revisions sequentially.19:55
nkinkadeIt's currently on 3105, while trunk is presently at 17803.19:56
nkinkadeI sure hope that it's not sequential.19:56
paulproteusSuper awesome.19:56
paulproteusI did Pootle last night so I could git diff between Mozootle and brand-name Pootle.19:56
nkinkadeIf it is then, we may have another 5 days before it's finished.19:56
paulproteusYay.19:57
nkinkadeHow long did that take?19:57
paulproteusca. 1d19:57
nkinkadeI wonder if CiviCRM's server is rate limiting our checkout.19:58
paulproteusOr if it's just naturally this slow.19:58
paulproteusI doubt it's taking evasive action.19:58
nkinkadeThat cold be too.19:58
nkinkadeSo what's this setup you've got for backups?19:58
nkinkadeI talked to day before yesterday about backups and I told her to talk to you.19:59
nkinkade:-)19:59
nkinkadeIt talked to Ani, that is.19:59
nkinkadepaulproteus: There 120G drive in there that might be suitable for local office backups.19:59
paulproteusAwesome.20:00
paulproteusI doubt that'll be good for >2 people.20:00
nkinkadeI might be nice to keep local backups off the big drive, because I haven't started to ramp up the backups to include every file.20:00
paulproteusOh, okay.20:00
nkinkadePeople shouldn't be backing up their MP3 collections.20:00
paulproteusThere's also the spare 500G external.20:00
* paulproteus shrugs20:00
nkinkadeOr if they want to then they can pitch in and buy another 1T drive.20:00
paulproteusTo the extent that NY's JY's office singalongs enhance office productivity perhaps they should be. (-:20:01
nkinkadeI tried ramping a5 up to full backups a while ago, but lagged so badly that we were left without backups for anything for many days and it still even close to done, so I killedit.20:01
nkinkadeI'll either do it incrementally or run a separate rsync job.20:01
paulproteuskilledit.20:01
paulproteus/usr/bin/killedit20:02
nkinkadeBut what I'm getting at is that that though there are current 500G left on the big drive, that space may get a good bit narrower shortly.20:02
paulproteusYes, right-o.20:02
nkinkadeSo I'd rather not have the whole office thinking that space is free for whatever they might want to backup up.20:03
nkinkadeAt least for the moment.20:03
paulproteusMaybe we should start with the 120G and then perhaps add that external 500G.20:03
paulproteusThe 120G drive is already in there, right?20:03
nkinkadeThat sounds like a good thing for now, until we see how much space is left on the 1T drive once all the machine are getting fully backed up.20:03
nkinkadeYeah, it's an older IDE drive, but still viable.20:03
nkinkadeIt's the system disk.20:04
paulproteusCool.20:04
naufragioi just noticed that if you add an extra L, 'logout' becomes 'lolgout'20:04
nkinkadeDid I just borrow some Mac terminology?20:04
naufragiolol, gout.20:04
nkinkadeAnd if you don't put a space between "killed" and "it", bit becomes /usr/bin/killedit20:05
paulproteuslol, gout!20:05
nkinkadeA little known, but disastrous Linux command.20:05
paulproteus+    """Tests things directly against the socket of the server. Requires self.baseaddress."""20:06
paulproteusThat says self.badassery, right?20:07
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jgaypaulproteus, or anyone, how did things turn out with the gsoc project to provide RDFa support for Semantic-Mediawiki20:22
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paulproteusjgay, "Halfway there", basically.20:23
jgaypaulproteus: neat20:23
paulproteusI haven't looked into it recently.  He was nkinkade's mentee, but we all chatted wtih him.20:23
jgaypaulproteus: ok, cool. Is there an SVN repository for it? I might be interested in helping to bring it the rest of the way there.20:24
paulproteus"This creates two new ORMed objects: Suggestion and Submission"20:24
nkinkadejgay: As far as I knew, the his code works, but we haven't implemented it yet.  Sadly, he quit responding to emails as soon as the SOC was over.20:24
paulproteusnkinkade, I think his code is in our SMW fork in git?20:24
jgaycool20:25
jgaybut, nto cool that he stopped responding. That is unfortunate.20:25
nkinkadehttp://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit?p=semanticmediawiki.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/rdfa20:25
nkinkadeYeah, in a branch called rdfa.20:25
nkinkadeYeah, it was pretty unfortunate.  It would appear that he was upset about something, but we never found out quite what because he never said or replied.20:26
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paulproteusHe seemed pretty not-upset that one time I talked to him in person.20:30
paulproteusI wonder if we should all just stop using computers to communicate at all.20:30
jgayare the git and the svn repositories one and of the same?20:35
paulproteusWe nightly auto-import SMW's svn repo into git.20:36
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paulproteusSo the point of the git repo is so you can easily modify the SMW stuff, make patches, then do "git merge LATEST_SMW_RELEASE" and get your work merged with theirs.20:36
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Bovinity21:08
Bovinityhmm21:08
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nkinkadepaulproteus: Bovinity: Do either of you know of a way to monitor the checked status of a radio button on a form?21:18
nkinkadeI can of course catch when it is checked, but I'm not sure of a way to know when it is deselected via someone having selected another radio button in the same group.21:19
paulproteusnkinkade, I don't know myself but I'd ask #web fwiw.21:19
Bovinitynkinkade: set up an onclick handler, and check the selected status in that handler function21:19
paulproteusOr I'd ask Bovinity who knows all.21:19
nkinkadeBovinity: But the onclick won't be triggered when it's deselected, will it?21:20
Bovinitynkinkade: you would set each button to usethe same function21:20
nkinkadeAt the moment I don't have control over the other buttons.21:20
nkinkadeOnly a single button.21:20
nkinkadeI'm trying to be as non-invasive as possible in the CiviCRM code and to add that event trigger to each button would require a change in the PHP, but I'd like to limit this to changes in the template, but it's not looking good so ar.21:21
nkinkadefar.21:21
Bovinityyeah, it wouldn't be hard if the element ids weren't randomly generated21:22
nkinkadeBovinity: Tell me about it.  What the hell is up with that?21:22
nkinkadeAnd the id of the form is "Main"21:22
Bovinitynkinkade: ugh, that's why i broke that stupid code out into a separate JS, becuase the element ids kept changing and breaking the automated stuff21:22
nkinkadeSo I was thinking of writing some document-wide JS to add an onsubmit to the form, but now I'm worried that some other form will be named "Main" too, and that it might cause unwanted behavior.21:23
Bovinitynkinkade: you can be 95% sure only the contribution form will be named Main21:24
Bovinityit's slightly more than annoying that we have to do these client side hacks. but oh well.21:24
nkinkadeBovinity: Maybe I'll just try that method since it's either that or editing some buried function that generates radio buttons to have it check for a specific button and give it a unique attribute.21:25
nkinkadeIn any case, the changes will be to support.js, so it should be easy to see what I'm doing and to undo it if it breaks anything, which, while unlikely, could happen ... that other 5% of uncertainty.21:26
* Bovinity nods21:26
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nkinkadeOh, Bovinity, you'll love this solution.22:32
nkinkadeThe user clicks a certain radio button which I control and that simply sets a onsubmit attribute to the form, which will then do the checking I need when the form is submitted.22:33
Bovinityha, nice22:33
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paulproteusnkinkade, Around?23:32
nkinkadepaulproteus: Yeah.23:34
paulproteusI'm reading through docs to figure out how staging gets updated for i18n.23:35
nkinkadeAre you having any luck.23:35
nkinkade?23:35
nkinkadepaulproteus: What part of staging?23:35
nkinkadeThe Deeds, the license chooser?23:36
paulproteusI... have no idea.23:37
paulproteusI'm figuring this out now.23:37
paulproteusLet's say the license chooser for now first.23:37
nkinkadepaulproteus: I can give you a quick rundown.23:37
paulproteussvn update, then #  From /var/www/staging.creativecommons.org/cc.engine, run ./bin/buildout -N install i18n to regenerate then i18n files23:37
paulproteusAs per http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Deploying_Jurisdictions23:38
nkinkadepaulproteus: Yes.23:38
nkinkadeAnd then restart cc.engine.23:38
nkinkadeThat should cover the license chooser.23:38
paulproteusThis isn't so bad.23:39
paulproteusnkinkade, Er:23:43
nkinkadepaulproteus: ?23:43
paulproteuspaulproteus@a7:/etc/apache2/sites-available$ grep -ri svnroot .23:43
paulproteuspaulproteus@a7:/etc/apache2/sites-available$ host code23:43
paulproteuscode.creativecommons.org is an alias for a7.creativecommons.org.23:43
nkinkade?23:44
paulproteusI'm trying to find the config that configures slash-svnroot.23:44
paulproteusNever mind, got it!23:44
paulproteusPardon the noise.23:44
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qknighthey23:46
qknightoh not c23:47
qknightsorry23:47
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nkinkadepaulproteus: If you were to have any ideas about the email I just sent to webmaster, that would be amazing.23:49
nkinkadepaulproteus: I'm going to run out for a bit, but I'll be back if you have any questions about i18n and Deeds/chooser.23:49
paulproteusCool.23:50

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