Wednesday, 2008-10-29

* paulproteus blinks00:00
paulproteusWhat, did I yawn or something?00:00
greg-ga large sigh00:00
greg-gpaulproteus: when do you want to head out?00:01
paulproteusFor what, eat, GT, ?00:02
paulproteusAnyone else coming?00:02
paulproteusI don't think I will do GT, but if forced to, I would probably enjoy it.00:03
greg-geat, drink, and be marry00:03
greg-gheh, then I force you to!00:03
paulproteusWe better hurry up on that last point, given Prop. 8!00:03
Bovinitydamn mormons00:03
paulproteusSeriously.00:03
paulproteusLet me type things into the OLPC wiki for another 20 minutes or so.00:03
greg-gcool00:03
greg-gpaulproteus: should I ask Jen to sell you the GT ticket?00:04
paulproteusIf you really want to pull this off, you should get her to sell it to you and then abduct me and insist I give you money.00:04
greg-gthat sounds... interesting00:05
paulproteusIt won't be hard, I'm just tired.00:05
greg-gk00:05
* paulproteus listens to more Motion City Soundtrack and goes back to Fx00:05
greg-gyep00:05
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paulproteusgreg-g, So doors at 7, and show at 8, and it's 5:30.00:36
* paulproteus scratches his head00:36
greg-gpaulproteus: drinks/food quickly, get to Jen's at 7:30, at the place by 8?00:37
paulproteusSounds good to me - is Jen also going?00:38
greg-gyep00:38
paulproteusOkay, great.00:38
greg-gshe is headed home right now though00:38
paulproteusCool.00:38
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nkinkadenathany: Is it correct that mkdeeds will not generate a new deed if the one it would produce is identical to the existing one?19:49
nathanynkinkade: sort of19:50
nkinkadehaha19:50
nkinkadeI was afraid you'd say that.19:50
nathanythe question is how would you know?19:50
nathanyso it will attempt to, but just overwrites the old one19:50
nkinkadeYou'd know by diff-ing with any existing file with the same name.19:50
nkinkadeOh, I see.19:50
nathanydiffing between what?19:50
nathany:)19:50
nathanythe old and new?19:50
nkinkadeIt overwrites the old one no matter what.19:50
nathanyright19:51
nkinkadegot it.19:51
nkinkadeThanks.19:51
nathanybtw, i'm not 100% convinced the problem you were having isn't related to the lack of zope.test19:51
nathanybut currently i'm eyeball deep in sr.LATN19:51
nkinkadeI'm about to try to regenerate Deeds for ko.19:54
nkinkadeI tried it earlier but it failed to produce anything new, so I think maybe I needed to do po2cc first, but I'm a bit skeptical.19:54
nkinkadenathany: One other small thing.  I've noticed all the po files now have as the first 2 lines a msgid and msgstr with empty strings.  This caused installing i18n to fail for cc.engine for HK.  Did I screw something up the other day?19:57
nathanynkinkade: well you certainly have to run po2cc before making deeds -- otherwise how will the deeds find the [updated] cc-style translations?19:58
nathanynkinkade: those lines caused it to fail?19:58
nkinkadeI don't know why, but removing them made it install.19:58
nathanythat'd be quite weird19:58
nathanywhat was the error?19:58
nkinkadeWould it be nice if I had noted it.19:59
nkinkadeI was in a cold induced stupor.19:59
nkinkadeBut if I come across it again I'll definitely make note of it.19:59
nathanyok20:00
nkinkadeJust realized why mkdeeds didn't work earlier.  I was building for ko, which only has v2.0 license, yet I specified -v 3.0.20:07
nathanynkinkade: heh20:08
nathanybtw, the good news is i figured out my sr-latn is broken (I think)20:08
nkinkadeBut it would have been nice had mkdeeds said "You muthafucking outta yo mind!"20:08
nathanyheh20:08
nkinkadeYeah, I had wondered why it produced both sr-latn and sr_LATN.20:08
nathanyhuh?20:08
nathanyi was referring to the translation on the deeds20:09
nkinkadeIt seems to created two files deed.sr-latn and deed.sr_LATN20:09
nathanysr-latn is the normalized form of sr_LATN...20:09
nathanyweird20:09
nkinkadeOh.20:09
nkinkadeIt seems to output both, I think.20:09
nathanyanyway, the bad news is that fixing the translation problem is going to require some mind bending bug fixes to the inner workings of zope's i18n20:09
nkinkadeOr maybe someone just copied deed.sr-latn to deed.sr_LATN20:10
nkinkadeOh no.  I'm glad I didn't spend any time looking into it, and I had thought about it.20:10
paulproteusnkinkade, re: tiny tiny rss bugs: File them upstream please. (-:20:11
nkinkadeI figured I'd just file with you on chat.  That isn't enough to get it fixed?20:12
nkinkadeI've noticed another small bug too.  I guess I should file them for real.20:12
paulproteusFWIW I'm subscribed to the RSS feed for the TTRSS forum, so if you make posts there I'll see them.20:13
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nkinkadeLesson #2 about mkdeeds: jurisdiction code for Korea is kr, language code is ko.  Deeds won't build with a jurisdiction of ko.20:20
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nathanynkinkadeping21:18
nathanynkinkade1: you around?21:18
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nkinkade1nathany: Yup.21:18
nkinkade1Just having some issue with my connection, where it keeps getting dropped.21:19
nathanynkinkade1: nevermind, just answered the question myself using dig (DNS for acawiki)21:19
nkinkade1paulproteus: Did you see my message earlier about git?21:22
paulproteusNo.21:24
* paulproteus scrolls21:24
paulproteusI don't see a git-related ping.21:24
paulproteusIn the past 36h at least.21:24
nkinkade1Maybe I made it right as I was getting disconnected, or had just been.21:26
nkinkade1paulproteus: Basically I'm putting our drupal and civicrm installs into git, and I was hoping you might be able to hold my hand a bit as far as getting some reasonable setup of branches for development and production.21:27
paulproteusPlan to use git-svn for them?21:27
paulproteus"I sure hope so."21:27
nkinkade1I haven't set that up so far.21:27
paulproteusFor now, your local resident git expert suggests submodules for the extension handling, but there is a slicker replacement for git submodules that I haven't had time to look into that's part of the Android code release.21:28
nkinkade1So far I just dropped what we've got into a git repository and I just added it to the main repository.21:28
paulproteusDo we have local changes?21:28
nkinkade1Some.21:28
nkinkade1But I think I've got that handled.21:29
nkinkade1I'll be able to reapply our changes.21:29
paulproteusCool.21:29
paulproteusThe Way Forward, I believe, is for e.g. me to set up the git-svn slurping, and then do a "git merge" operation to show git that your version is related to some upstream version of CiviCRM (and Drupal).21:30
paulproteusOh, right, Drupal is hilariously in CVS, I think.21:30
nathanynkinkade1: did i screw up acawiki when i made servername acawiki.org and alias to acawiki.cc.org?21:46
nathanyoh, nevermind21:47
nathanybug in .htaccess21:47
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nkinkadepaulproteus: It might be my imagination, but it would almost appear as if Drupal is not maintained in a subversion repository.22:05
nkinkadeCiviCRM is, though.22:06
paulproteusI think Drupal is in CVS.22:06
paulproteusLet me think some things through and talk more in 15m or so.22:10
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nathanynkinkade: can you disable the acawiki nagios test?23:03
nkinkadeSure.23:03
nathanyit's failing now that there's a password there23:04
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paulproteusnkinkade, Hi, let's talk about this git stuff if you have a sec.23:13
nkinkadeSure.23:14
paulproteusLet me first see about CVS + git.23:14
nkinkadeSo, drupal doesn't seem to have subversion, civicrm does, so I could do a git-svn checkout.23:14
paulproteusDoing a git-svn clone of CiviCRM seems appropriate to me, and then automatically updating that with my cron jobs.23:14
paulproteusThen we can have a CC branch, and occasionally merge in more recent CivICRM revisions from the svn mirror we see in git.23:15
paulproteusYou can do that, I think, although my scripts aren't really documented, so it's not clear how to add them to sheeshcron@a6.23:15
paulproteusBy "add them" I mean "add the CiviCRM git-svn importer".23:16
paulproteusYou do that, while I try to import Drupal.  How's that sound?23:16
nkinkadepaulproteus: That sounds fine.  What machine should I checkout civicrm on?23:17
nkinkadea7?23:17
paulproteusWhatevs, I think sheeshcron is on a6, but we can move things due to the magic of the Internet.23:18
nkinkadepaulproteus: But wouldn't we want the stuff pulled directly to where code.CC is?23:22
* paulproteus shrugs23:23
paulproteusnkinkade, What I do is pull to a "temporary" repository that maintains the svn metadata, do the nightly svn refreshes there, and then push to code dot.23:23
paulproteusIt's all a pretty lightweight process, since it's network-bound, not CPU- or I/O-bound.23:23
nkinkadeOkay, I'll do it on a6.23:23
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nkinkadepaulproteus: There are problems with git-svn on a6.23:26
nkinkadeHas to do with an dep problem with the backported version of git-core.23:26
paulproteusThen apt-get install -t etch-backports git-svn.23:27
nkinkadeI guess I'll pull it elsewhere and then copy it to a7? But how are you doing the git-svn stuff there in the first place?23:27
paulproteusHmm, good question.23:27
paulproteusI'm still reading about git-cvsimport instead.23:27
nkinkadepaulproteus: I'm checking out the whole #! for CiviCRM: tags, braches, trunk.  It'll will be in your home directory on a6 in a dir called civicrm_git-svn23:32
nkinkadeI'm going to run to the store before it gets too late here ...23:33
nkinkadeBovinity: Are you doing something with learn?23:34
Bovinitynkinkade: in a general context, yes. right now, no23:34
nkinkadeBovinity: is the site working for you now?23:34
nkinkadeI'm getting redirected.23:34
Bovinitylearn and learn-staging both work fine for me23:35
paulproteusnkinkade, Cool.23:35
nkinkadeBovinity: Hmm.  I keep getting redirect to http://learn.creativecommons.org/apache2-default/23:36
paulproteusClear cache?23:36
nkinkadeNo matter the browser.23:36
nkinkadeEven in Midori.23:36
Bovinitynkinkade: /etc/hosts?23:36
paulproteus$ git-cvsimport -k -v -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal -o upstream drupal23:36
paulproteusAuthReply: I HATE YOU23:36
paulproteusUm.23:36
nkinkadeProbably.23:36
paulproteusOh, I need this first: $ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous@cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal login23:37
BovinityOBVIOUSLY23:37
nkinkadeBovinity: Good Lord:23:39
nkinkade;; ANSWER SECTION:23:39
nkinkadelearn.creativecommons.org. 36000 INCNAMEa8.creativecommons.org.23:39
nkinkadea8.creativecommons.org.36000INA66.135.59.14723:39
paulproteusnkinkade, Currently doing a git cvs import.23:40
paulproteusLet's see how this goes.23:40
Bovinitynkinkade: um, yeah, that's wrong :)23:41
nkinkadeGood God, the DNS servers I'm using are returning bad records.23:41
nkinkadeBut they are the DNS servers of my Internet provider.23:41
paulproteusIt can be that easy when yo23:42
paulproteusu23:42
paulproteusbreaktheinter.net23:42
paulproteusSpeaking of which, I have that domain.23:42
Bovinityin ur isp, not updating ur dns23:42
paulproteusI was going to make it an anti-net-neutrality rant, and congratulate universities and ISPs when they do things that successfully break the Internet.23:43
paulproteusLike filtering packets or, in your case, doing Horribly Wrong Things with the DNS.23:43
nkinkadepaulproteus: Bovinity: It would appear that Intrepid installs and runs named.23:44
nkinkadeCan that be right?  Or did I do this myself?23:44
nkinkadeI must have launched it myself.23:45
nkinkadeA long time ago, and now strangely since /etc/resolv.conf is empty the resolver is automatically connecting to bind on the localhost.23:46
paulproteusLunchtime.23:47
paulproteusLunchpad.23:47
paulproteusLunched the resolver myself.23:47
nkinkadeThat was bizarre.  bind9 was running on my machine, somehow /etc/resolv.conf was empty, and the resolver defaulted to connecting to the localhost, which had some zone files for CC that were quite old.23:50
paulproteus"An Internet Of One."23:50
nkinkadeI'm wondering how resolv.conf got emptied out.  I think it was Network Manager.23:51
paulproteusNetwork Mangler.23:52
nkinkadeThankfully I have the CC served mapped out in my hosts file, otherwise this git-svn checkout would erroneously be taking place on a8 right now.23:52
paulproteusErmp.23:52
nkinkadeBut presumably my bash prompt would have been a big clue.23:52
nkinkadeAnyway, paulproteus, I'm going to run to the Whole Foods ... I'll be back in about an hour.23:52
paulproteusGreat.23:53
nkinkadegit-svn is still chugging away.23:53
paulproteusSame with the cvs import.23:53

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