| * paulproteus blinks | 00:00 | |
| paulproteus | What, did I yawn or something? | 00:00 |
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| greg-g | a large sigh | 00:00 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: when do you want to head out? | 00:01 |
| paulproteus | For what, eat, GT, ? | 00:02 |
| paulproteus | Anyone else coming? | 00:02 |
| paulproteus | I don't think I will do GT, but if forced to, I would probably enjoy it. | 00:03 |
| greg-g | eat, drink, and be marry | 00:03 |
| greg-g | heh, then I force you to! | 00:03 |
| paulproteus | We better hurry up on that last point, given Prop. 8! | 00:03 |
| Bovinity | damn mormons | 00:03 |
| paulproteus | Seriously. | 00:03 |
| paulproteus | Let me type things into the OLPC wiki for another 20 minutes or so. | 00:03 |
| greg-g | cool | 00:03 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: should I ask Jen to sell you the GT ticket? | 00:04 |
| paulproteus | If you really want to pull this off, you should get her to sell it to you and then abduct me and insist I give you money. | 00:04 |
| greg-g | that sounds... interesting | 00:05 |
| paulproteus | It won't be hard, I'm just tired. | 00:05 |
| greg-g | k | 00:05 |
| * paulproteus listens to more Motion City Soundtrack and goes back to Fx | 00:05 | |
| greg-g | yep | 00:05 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, So doors at 7, and show at 8, and it's 5:30. | 00:36 |
| * paulproteus scratches his head | 00:36 | |
| greg-g | paulproteus: drinks/food quickly, get to Jen's at 7:30, at the place by 8? | 00:37 |
| paulproteus | Sounds good to me - is Jen also going? | 00:38 |
| greg-g | yep | 00:38 |
| paulproteus | Okay, great. | 00:38 |
| greg-g | she is headed home right now though | 00:38 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 00:38 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Is it correct that mkdeeds will not generate a new deed if the one it would produce is identical to the existing one? | 19:49 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sort of | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | haha | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | I was afraid you'd say that. | 19:50 |
| nathany | the question is how would you know? | 19:50 |
| nathany | so it will attempt to, but just overwrites the old one | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | You'd know by diff-ing with any existing file with the same name. | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | Oh, I see. | 19:50 |
| nathany | diffing between what? | 19:50 |
| nathany | :) | 19:50 |
| nathany | the old and new? | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | It overwrites the old one no matter what. | 19:50 |
| nathany | right | 19:51 |
| nkinkade | got it. | 19:51 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 19:51 |
| nathany | btw, i'm not 100% convinced the problem you were having isn't related to the lack of zope.test | 19:51 |
| nathany | but currently i'm eyeball deep in sr.LATN | 19:51 |
| nkinkade | I'm about to try to regenerate Deeds for ko. | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | I tried it earlier but it failed to produce anything new, so I think maybe I needed to do po2cc first, but I'm a bit skeptical. | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | nathany: One other small thing. I've noticed all the po files now have as the first 2 lines a msgid and msgstr with empty strings. This caused installing i18n to fail for cc.engine for HK. Did I screw something up the other day? | 19:57 |
| nathany | nkinkade: well you certainly have to run po2cc before making deeds -- otherwise how will the deeds find the [updated] cc-style translations? | 19:58 |
| nathany | nkinkade: those lines caused it to fail? | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | I don't know why, but removing them made it install. | 19:58 |
| nathany | that'd be quite weird | 19:58 |
| nathany | what was the error? | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | Would it be nice if I had noted it. | 19:59 |
| nkinkade | I was in a cold induced stupor. | 19:59 |
| nkinkade | But if I come across it again I'll definitely make note of it. | 19:59 |
| nathany | ok | 20:00 |
| nkinkade | Just realized why mkdeeds didn't work earlier. I was building for ko, which only has v2.0 license, yet I specified -v 3.0. | 20:07 |
| nathany | nkinkade: heh | 20:08 |
| nathany | btw, the good news is i figured out my sr-latn is broken (I think) | 20:08 |
| nkinkade | But it would have been nice had mkdeeds said "You muthafucking outta yo mind!" | 20:08 |
| nathany | heh | 20:08 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, I had wondered why it produced both sr-latn and sr_LATN. | 20:08 |
| nathany | huh? | 20:08 |
| nathany | i was referring to the translation on the deeds | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | It seems to created two files deed.sr-latn and deed.sr_LATN | 20:09 |
| nathany | sr-latn is the normalized form of sr_LATN... | 20:09 |
| nathany | weird | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | Oh. | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | It seems to output both, I think. | 20:09 |
| nathany | anyway, the bad news is that fixing the translation problem is going to require some mind bending bug fixes to the inner workings of zope's i18n | 20:09 |
| nkinkade | Or maybe someone just copied deed.sr-latn to deed.sr_LATN | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | Oh no. I'm glad I didn't spend any time looking into it, and I had thought about it. | 20:10 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, re: tiny tiny rss bugs: File them upstream please. (-: | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | I figured I'd just file with you on chat. That isn't enough to get it fixed? | 20:12 |
| nkinkade | I've noticed another small bug too. I guess I should file them for real. | 20:12 |
| paulproteus | FWIW I'm subscribed to the RSS feed for the TTRSS forum, so if you make posts there I'll see them. | 20:13 |
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| nkinkade | Lesson #2 about mkdeeds: jurisdiction code for Korea is kr, language code is ko. Deeds won't build with a jurisdiction of ko. | 20:20 |
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| nathany | nkinkadeping | 21:18 |
| nathany | nkinkade1: you around? | 21:18 |
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| nkinkade1 | nathany: Yup. | 21:18 |
| nkinkade1 | Just having some issue with my connection, where it keeps getting dropped. | 21:19 |
| nathany | nkinkade1: nevermind, just answered the question myself using dig (DNS for acawiki) | 21:19 |
| nkinkade1 | paulproteus: Did you see my message earlier about git? | 21:22 |
| paulproteus | No. | 21:24 |
| * paulproteus scrolls | 21:24 | |
| paulproteus | I don't see a git-related ping. | 21:24 |
| paulproteus | In the past 36h at least. | 21:24 |
| nkinkade1 | Maybe I made it right as I was getting disconnected, or had just been. | 21:26 |
| nkinkade1 | paulproteus: Basically I'm putting our drupal and civicrm installs into git, and I was hoping you might be able to hold my hand a bit as far as getting some reasonable setup of branches for development and production. | 21:27 |
| paulproteus | Plan to use git-svn for them? | 21:27 |
| paulproteus | "I sure hope so." | 21:27 |
| nkinkade1 | I haven't set that up so far. | 21:27 |
| paulproteus | For now, your local resident git expert suggests submodules for the extension handling, but there is a slicker replacement for git submodules that I haven't had time to look into that's part of the Android code release. | 21:28 |
| nkinkade1 | So far I just dropped what we've got into a git repository and I just added it to the main repository. | 21:28 |
| paulproteus | Do we have local changes? | 21:28 |
| nkinkade1 | Some. | 21:28 |
| nkinkade1 | But I think I've got that handled. | 21:29 |
| nkinkade1 | I'll be able to reapply our changes. | 21:29 |
| paulproteus | Cool. | 21:29 |
| paulproteus | The Way Forward, I believe, is for e.g. me to set up the git-svn slurping, and then do a "git merge" operation to show git that your version is related to some upstream version of CiviCRM (and Drupal). | 21:30 |
| paulproteus | Oh, right, Drupal is hilariously in CVS, I think. | 21:30 |
| nathany | nkinkade1: did i screw up acawiki when i made servername acawiki.org and alias to acawiki.cc.org? | 21:46 |
| nathany | oh, nevermind | 21:47 |
| nathany | bug in .htaccess | 21:47 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: It might be my imagination, but it would almost appear as if Drupal is not maintained in a subversion repository. | 22:05 |
| nkinkade | CiviCRM is, though. | 22:06 |
| paulproteus | I think Drupal is in CVS. | 22:06 |
| paulproteus | Let me think some things through and talk more in 15m or so. | 22:10 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: can you disable the acawiki nagios test? | 23:03 |
| nkinkade | Sure. | 23:03 |
| nathany | it's failing now that there's a password there | 23:04 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Hi, let's talk about this git stuff if you have a sec. | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | Sure. | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | Let me first see about CVS + git. | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | So, drupal doesn't seem to have subversion, civicrm does, so I could do a git-svn checkout. | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | Doing a git-svn clone of CiviCRM seems appropriate to me, and then automatically updating that with my cron jobs. | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | Then we can have a CC branch, and occasionally merge in more recent CivICRM revisions from the svn mirror we see in git. | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | You can do that, I think, although my scripts aren't really documented, so it's not clear how to add them to sheeshcron@a6. | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | By "add them" I mean "add the CiviCRM git-svn importer". | 23:16 |
| paulproteus | You do that, while I try to import Drupal. How's that sound? | 23:16 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: That sounds fine. What machine should I checkout civicrm on? | 23:17 |
| nkinkade | a7? | 23:17 |
| paulproteus | Whatevs, I think sheeshcron is on a6, but we can move things due to the magic of the Internet. | 23:18 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: But wouldn't we want the stuff pulled directly to where code.CC is? | 23:22 |
| * paulproteus shrugs | 23:23 | |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, What I do is pull to a "temporary" repository that maintains the svn metadata, do the nightly svn refreshes there, and then push to code dot. | 23:23 |
| paulproteus | It's all a pretty lightweight process, since it's network-bound, not CPU- or I/O-bound. | 23:23 |
| nkinkade | Okay, I'll do it on a6. | 23:23 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: There are problems with git-svn on a6. | 23:26 |
| nkinkade | Has to do with an dep problem with the backported version of git-core. | 23:26 |
| paulproteus | Then apt-get install -t etch-backports git-svn. | 23:27 |
| nkinkade | I guess I'll pull it elsewhere and then copy it to a7? But how are you doing the git-svn stuff there in the first place? | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | Hmm, good question. | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | I'm still reading about git-cvsimport instead. | 23:27 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm checking out the whole #! for CiviCRM: tags, braches, trunk. It'll will be in your home directory on a6 in a dir called civicrm_git-svn | 23:32 |
| nkinkade | I'm going to run to the store before it gets too late here ... | 23:33 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Are you doing something with learn? | 23:34 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: in a general context, yes. right now, no | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: is the site working for you now? | 23:34 |
| nkinkade | I'm getting redirected. | 23:34 |
| Bovinity | learn and learn-staging both work fine for me | 23:35 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Cool. | 23:35 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Hmm. I keep getting redirect to http://learn.creativecommons.org/apache2-default/ | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | Clear cache? | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | No matter the browser. | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | Even in Midori. | 23:36 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: /etc/hosts? | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | $ git-cvsimport -k -v -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal -o upstream drupal | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | AuthReply: I HATE YOU | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | Um. | 23:36 |
| nkinkade | Probably. | 23:36 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I need this first: $ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous:anonymous@cvs.drupal.org:/cvs/drupal login | 23:37 |
| Bovinity | OBVIOUSLY | 23:37 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Good Lord: | 23:39 |
| nkinkade | ;; ANSWER SECTION: | 23:39 |
| nkinkade | learn.creativecommons.org. 36000 INCNAMEa8.creativecommons.org. | 23:39 |
| nkinkade | a8.creativecommons.org.36000INA66.135.59.147 | 23:39 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Currently doing a git cvs import. | 23:40 |
| paulproteus | Let's see how this goes. | 23:40 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: um, yeah, that's wrong :) | 23:41 |
| nkinkade | Good God, the DNS servers I'm using are returning bad records. | 23:41 |
| nkinkade | But they are the DNS servers of my Internet provider. | 23:41 |
| paulproteus | It can be that easy when yo | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | u | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | breaktheinter.net | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | Speaking of which, I have that domain. | 23:42 |
| Bovinity | in ur isp, not updating ur dns | 23:42 |
| paulproteus | I was going to make it an anti-net-neutrality rant, and congratulate universities and ISPs when they do things that successfully break the Internet. | 23:43 |
| paulproteus | Like filtering packets or, in your case, doing Horribly Wrong Things with the DNS. | 23:43 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Bovinity: It would appear that Intrepid installs and runs named. | 23:44 |
| nkinkade | Can that be right? Or did I do this myself? | 23:44 |
| nkinkade | I must have launched it myself. | 23:45 |
| nkinkade | A long time ago, and now strangely since /etc/resolv.conf is empty the resolver is automatically connecting to bind on the localhost. | 23:46 |
| paulproteus | Lunchtime. | 23:47 |
| paulproteus | Lunchpad. | 23:47 |
| paulproteus | Lunched the resolver myself. | 23:47 |
| nkinkade | That was bizarre. bind9 was running on my machine, somehow /etc/resolv.conf was empty, and the resolver defaulted to connecting to the localhost, which had some zone files for CC that were quite old. | 23:50 |
| paulproteus | "An Internet Of One." | 23:50 |
| nkinkade | I'm wondering how resolv.conf got emptied out. I think it was Network Manager. | 23:51 |
| paulproteus | Network Mangler. | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | Thankfully I have the CC served mapped out in my hosts file, otherwise this git-svn checkout would erroneously be taking place on a8 right now. | 23:52 |
| paulproteus | Ermp. | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | But presumably my bash prompt would have been a big clue. | 23:52 |
| nkinkade | Anyway, paulproteus, I'm going to run to the Whole Foods ... I'll be back in about an hour. | 23:52 |
| paulproteus | Great. | 23:53 |
| nkinkade | git-svn is still chugging away. | 23:53 |
| paulproteus | Same with the cvs import. | 23:53 |
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