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| chotchki | hey everyone, id like to try out the ccTeamSpace MediaWiki plugin but it seems that the website is down | 00:19 |
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| chotchki | does anyone know howto get access to it? | 00:19 |
| mlinksva | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcTeamspace is up | 00:21 |
| mlinksva | the git web interface is down, but you can use git to grab the code | 00:21 |
| chotchki | oh okay | 00:21 |
| chotchki | didnt know if the git was down too | 00:21 |
| chotchki | thx! | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade1, Speaking of which, what do you make of the great gitweb experiment. | 00:22 |
| mlinksva | np | 00:22 |
| paulproteus | ? | 00:22 |
| chotchki | got it, thanks again! | 00:33 |
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| paulproteus | http://punditkitchen.com/ | 00:42 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: do you remember where that video is that you and Steren made about License Tagger? | 03:23 |
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| turtlesoon | ~~" | 13:12 |
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| turtlesoon | ~"~ | 13:32 |
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| greg-g | "~~ | 14:17 |
| nkinkade | "~"~" | 14:28 |
| greg-g | morning | 14:29 |
| nkinkade | Howdy | 14:29 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, It's on the blip.tv and elsewhere. | 16:03 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: ah, thanks | 16:14 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: the code used for that video is the code you used for OSCON right? | 16:20 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: since I don't see it in the web-veiw for svn, and gitweb is disabled, do you have the git url so I could look at it? | 16:23 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, Going to focus on Herder+VCS today. | 17:08 |
| nathany | paulproteus: awesome | 17:09 |
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| paulproteus | Sarah Palin is an accomplished flautist and has been performing for more than ten years: http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=r0OZ9W2K_z0 | 17:56 |
| Bovinity | so she'll use her mad flute skillz when putin invades alaska? | 17:58 |
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| paulproteus | I mean, this is really orthogonal to all the politics stuff. | 18:03 |
| mlinksva | gwb is an accomplished flouter of the law and has been performing at the highest level for nearly 8 years | 18:06 |
| paulproteus | I hope that we see further excellent flautists at all levels of government. | 18:07 |
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| Bovinity | nathany: your deeds should look a bit better now | 18:16 |
| nathany | Bovinity: thanks | 18:17 |
| nathany | did you update that on staging/production/both? | 18:17 |
| nathany | (just curious) | 18:17 |
| Bovinity | just staging | 18:17 |
| Bovinity | (for now) | 18:17 |
| nathany | ok, cool | 18:17 |
| nathany | committed? | 18:17 |
| Bovinity | yep | 18:17 |
| nathany | awesome, thanks | 18:18 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: I poked around a little regarding the login/redirect stuff with Teamspace, and was able to find very little. I asked on the #mediawiki site and someone replied that that functionality is (will be) available in 1.14. I figure it's not worth the time right now, though I'm sure I could hack something together. | 18:30 |
| nathany | nkinkade: weird | 18:30 |
| nathany | why does it work on wiki.cc.org? | 18:30 |
| nkinkade | I think because it's a slightly different circumstance. | 18:30 |
| nathany | (at least i thought it did) | 18:30 |
| nathany | because it's edit vs. view? | 18:31 |
| nathany | or because you're clicking the link? | 18:31 |
| nkinkade | In that scenario a user is already wandering around the site and suddenly must login to edit a page or something, and it's setup for that already, but it's different to hit a site and be forced to login immediately. | 18:31 |
| nathany | ok | 18:31 |
| nathany | probably not worth spending tons of time on now | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | That's my guess at least, because I can see code dealing with mReturnTo and request->returnto and such. | 18:32 |
| nathany | ah | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | I figure it's an annoyance for now, but we've lived with it this long, and it won't hurt to live with it until it's a standard feature in the next release. | 18:32 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Will you send out another email when it's safe to svn up cc.org? | 18:50 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yes | 18:50 |
| nkinkade | Not that I need to any time soon, but just so I don't worry about it in the future. | 18:50 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Do you recall what email address you used when you contaced ibiblio? | 19:09 |
| nathany | no | 19:09 |
| paulproteus | The old git module doesn't support setting the committer name and email address. | 19:11 |
| * paulproteus writes a quick patch | 19:11 | |
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| nkinkade | Whoa: | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | SYN_RECV: 103 | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | ESTABLISHED: 9598 | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | TIME_WAIT: 3881 | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | FIN_WAIT1: 241 | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | FIN_WAIT2: 110 | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | That was a5 as of not long ago. | 19:55 |
| nathany | nkinkade: today? | 19:56 |
| nkinkade | About 45 minutes ago. | 19:56 |
| nkinkade | Nearly 10,000 established TCP connections. | 19:56 |
| nathany | but was it bogged? not sure exactly how to read those | 19:57 |
| nkinkade | And nearly 4,000 more in a waiting state. | 19:57 |
| nathany | huh | 19:57 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I think it was fine actually. When the watchdog notices a problem I have it dump those stats. It restarted cc.engine because it's memory usage went over 750M, so I got an email about it. | 19:58 |
| nathany | ah | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | There could perhaps be some connection between those stats and the cc.engine memory usage. | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | That's why I have it dump those stats, to find if there's a connection between some vital TCP stats and problems with cc.engine or other things. | 19:59 |
| nkinkade | In which direction they may be causally related I couldn't say. Yet ... | 19:59 |
| nathany | ah | 20:01 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Bovinity: Would it kill anything either of you are doing if mysqld stopped on a5 for less than 60 seconds? | 20:03 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: negative | 20:03 |
| nathany | negatory | 20:03 |
| nkinkade | There are some tables in need of repair, and doing it via the mysql client doesn't seem to be fixing it totally. | 20:04 |
| nkinkade | Okay .. .here goes ... | 20:04 |
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| nkinkade | Has anyone else noticed their browser hanging on yui.yahooapis.com lately? | 20:54 |
| paulproteus | It is indeed slower than I'd like sometimes. | 20:57 |
| paulproteus | I sometimes plan to set yui.yahooapis.com to localhost and serve my own copy of YUI up. | 20:57 |
| nkinkade | And have I mentioned before how unbearably slow www.sandbox.paypay.com is? | 21:06 |
| paulproteus | Set THAT to localhost! | 21:07 |
| nkinkade | Can I change the description of this channel to desc = $desc + " | place for nkinkade to bitch and moan about random things" | 21:08 |
| Bovinity | this is THE #1 LOCATION for nkinkade bitching adn moaning. | 21:08 |
| nkinkade | I like that better. | 21:09 |
| paulproteus | I like Bovinity's version too. | 21:12 |
| nathany | nkinkade: can you add [if necessary] /var/www/creativecommons.net to the backup jobs for a9? | 21:16 |
| nkinkade | nathany: It backs up everything in /var/www | 21:17 |
| nathany | great | 21:17 |
| nkinkade | Soon it will backup /, unconditionally (mostly). | 21:18 |
| paulproteus | Yay! | 21:18 |
| paulproteus | http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=asheesh+laroia&hl=en&btnG=Search | 21:18 |
| paulproteus | Yay! | 21:18 |
| paulproteus | 20th Century Asheesh! | 21:19 |
| paulproteus | "Re: [expert] Apache + CGI = Error?" and "Re: [expert] CUPS exasperation" and, er, "Lizard Rocks!- MozillaZine" | 21:20 |
| paulproteus | http://www.google.com/search2001/search?q=%22creative+commons%22&hl=en&btnG=Search | 21:21 |
| mlinksva | on http://code.creativecommons.org/ | 21:21 |
| mlinksva | should cc.license.git be replaced with cc.project.git to be symmetric with the svn instructions? | 21:22 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, Did you go to http://web.archive.org/web/20011020163458/www.calorierestriction.org/Conf_reg.htm ? | 21:29 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus: yes | 21:36 |
| mlinksva | http://support.creativecommons.org/join | 21:41 |
| paulproteus | Hmm. | 21:41 |
| mlinksva | should that say "Coming October 15" or similar instead of not found? | 21:41 |
| mlinksva | maybe that is for nkinkade | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: I suppose I could add a placeholder page. | 21:43 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Should those Django errors be going to webmaster? | 21:44 |
| nkinkade | But, mlinksva, why would we want a page saying "Coming soon"? Has that link been published somewhere? | 21:45 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yes | 21:49 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: it's linked from cc.net | 21:50 |
| Bovinity | whcih is going up before support 2008 | 21:50 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: cc.org down, it appears | 21:59 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Looking into it. | 22:01 |
| nkinkade | SSH doesn't even appear to be responding at the moment. | 22:02 |
| paulproteus | This reminds me of http://paulproteus.acm.jhu.edu/screenshot1.jpg | 22:02 |
| nkinkade | Nor ping ... it must be pretty bad. | 22:03 |
| paulproteus | If we had our own hardware, we could IPMI into it and at least see what the serial console said. | 22:03 |
| nkinkade | If only somewhere were to happen by it and snap a photo of some console. | 22:03 |
| paulproteus | Or if we paid millions of dollars. | 22:03 |
| paulproteus | Or yes, if we had friends in the colo. (-: | 22:04 |
| nkinkade | But in this case I suppose a RapidRestart is about our only options. | 22:04 |
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| nkinkade | The last thing kernel had to say was "possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies." | 22:08 |
| paulproteus | Huh. | 22:09 |
| paulproteus | That's sort of ominous. | 22:09 |
| paulproteus | BTW, I sent you two Nathans an email that suggests that I'd like something like gitweb to be up. | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | But not very helpful. | 22:09 |
| paulproteus | Agreed. | 22:09 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Just a few minutes ago I was looking into what to do about that, gitweb, that is. | 22:10 |
| * paulproteus nods | 22:10 | |
| paulproteus | How do you feel about your gitwebless experiment? | 22:10 |
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| nkinkade | Looks like there is a caching version that I thought was still in development, but doesn't appear to have had activity in a while: http://git.kernel.org/?p=git/warthog9/gitweb.git;a=summary | 22:10 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: I feel like all the Nagios messages and outages pretty much went away, but you can ask nathany how he feels about it. | 22:11 |
| paulproteus | Uh-oh, asking nathany how he feels about something git-related? | 22:11 |
| nathany | lol | 22:11 |
| nathany | i think a7 has been a happy happy machine since we lost gitweb | 22:11 |
| paulproteus | Seems that way to me (that's not the one that just failed, is it?). | 22:11 |
| nathany | and while yes, that's a bummer, it's not mission critical | 22:12 |
| nathany | nope | 22:12 |
| paulproteus | (great) | 22:12 |
| paulproteus | Other than the segfaults, what's wrong with cgit (other than also breaking links)? | 22:12 |
| nathany | nothing that i'm aware of | 22:13 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Nothing that I know of, and I wasn't even 100% sure that the segfaults were any major problem, but they couldn't have been good. | 22:13 |
| paulproteus | http://www.gelato.unsw.edu.au/archives/git/0612/35683.html suggests that 2y ago, cgit was ca. 100x faster than gitweb. | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | As I suspected, there is nothing of apparent use in the logs on a5 to explain what just happened. | 22:14 |
| paulproteus | Yeah. | 22:14 |
| paulproteus | No pings means no kernel, basically. | 22:14 |
| nkinkade | Must have been the something to do with the Large Hadron Collider. I knew that thing was bad news. | 22:14 |
| paulproteus | I suspect the microwave background radiation actually. | 22:15 |
| nkinkade | Okay, I'm off to meet an old friend and his wife for dinner. I'll see you all here tomorrow bright and early. | 22:15 |
| paulproteus | http://www.deepastronomy.com/cosmic-microwave-background-radiation-sickness.html refers to "Campbell's Bose-Einstein Condensate Soup". | 22:15 |
| nkinkade | And bushy-tailed, dammit. | 22:16 |
| paulproteus | Wait, who'll be bushy-tailed? | 22:16 |
| Bovinity | but no bright eyes? | 22:16 |
| paulproteus | c.f. http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/the-first-day-of-my-life-lyrics-bright-eyes/8c038655bf0d251e48256d29001f4ac5 | 22:17 |
| nkinkade | Something like that hasn't happened in a while on one of the servers, and if it happens again soon on a5 I'm going to suspect that Server Beach slipped us some defective RAM. | 22:19 |
| paulproteus | Ah-hah. | 22:19 |
| paulproteus | Oh, yeah, there's no gitosis<->cgit configuration integration. | 22:20 |
| paulproteus | I hacked around that by exposing all our repositories. | 22:20 |
| paulproteus | "Users of cgit include freedesktop.org, compiz-fusion.org, creativecommons.org and dyne.org. " | 22:23 |
| paulproteus | -- http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/InterfacesFrontendsAndTools#head-e5a6762d6aed31c5a2034d52c1733ead46402c31 | 22:23 |
| paulproteus | Hilarious. | 22:23 |
| paulproteus | Maybe I should just prove them right briefly tomorrow? | 22:23 |
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| mlinksva | sorry not keeping up, but nkinkade just sa Bovinity says, the link to support.cc.org/join will go up before the new version of support, thus the need for a placeholder | 22:28 |
| nathany | nkinkade: you still around? | 23:00 |
| paulproteus | BTW, website back up. | 23:06 |
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