Monday, 2008-09-15

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shyam_kwhich was that video which explains the creative common license to the general public?was searching for one to show people on SFD talks..01:55
paulproteusshyam_k, There are a bunch at support.creativecommons.org/videos01:58
paulproteus"Get Creative!" is the original one.01:58
shyam_kpaulproteus: thanks..i got it02:03
paulproteusGreat!02:03
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dragonslayer8881anyone here?11:51
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Sterenhi17:01
paulproteusHowdy.17:18
paulproteusI set up Asterisk.17:19
paulproteusI'm very happy with myself.17:19
greg-gpaulproteus: on rose? personal or for the office? details!17:21
paulproteusgreg-g, On supercore, the server in my parents' house.17:21
greg-geither way, that is neat17:21
greg-gah17:21
paulproteusIf you ring my Seattle number, it calls the office.17:21
paulproteusIn The Future it will call the office and my house and a PC SIP softphone and my cell at once.17:21
greg-gfancy17:21
paulproteusOr in some order, or something.17:21
paulproteusThat way when (as usual) my cell isn't charged, it isn't as big a deal.17:22
greg-ghaha17:22
greg-gpbxs are really neat ideas, it is like hacking on the phone system17:23
paulproteusMy mom was confused when she called me, though.17:23
paulproteusApparently it didn't ring.17:23
paulproteusIt was just quiet until I picked up.17:23
greg-goh, weird17:23
paulproteus"Sorry, Mom, I'm a newcomer to the telecommunications industry."17:23
paulproteusI'm sure that's why Asterisk has a Ring() command thing.17:24
greg-gheh17:24
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paulproteusOh, those Canadians.18:16
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paulproteusnathany, Change password now works, plus the "if you set your username to bureau, you get all privileges by magic" backdoor is gone.18:34
nathanypaulproteus: excellent18:34
paulproteusNext on the table is more complicated user prefs; I'm probably too hungry to build them before lunch.  I want that working before I merge email to avoid massive email-outs due to testing. (-:18:35
paulproteusBovinity, nathany, Apparently I'm starving; feel free to ping about lunch whenever.18:45
Bovinitycurry's lookin good18:46
paulproteuscurrybot, list18:46
currybot(1) MATTAR PANEER MASALA (Delicacy of fresh English peas and home made cottage cheese cubes curry)18:46
currybot(2) MAKHANWALI TARKARI (Several fresh vegetables cooked in a butter-flavored curry)18:46
currybot(3) NYAZOE KA CHOOZAA (Boneless chicken cubes cooked in a pine nuts curry sauce)18:46
currybot(4) PATHANI MEATBALL (Meatball cooked in a yogurt, garlic, ginger and onion gravy)18:46
Bovinityoh damn18:46
nathanycurrybot: 418:48
currybotPATHANI MEATBALL (Meatball cooked in a yogurt, garlic, ginger and onion gravy) The seasoned yogurt is sautéed with red onions, garlic, ginger tomatoes, and several other spices. Once the base is done and dark in color the Beef meatball are added to it and stirred till well tempered.18:48
currybot$6.0018:48
Steren:)18:50
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paulproteusnathany, Do you know how I might reset my own voice mail password?19:48
nathanypaulproteus: nope19:50
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paulproteusOh look, http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Notes_on_Avaya_Phones19:51
Bovinityoh freaky. kim.19:53
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paulproteusnathany, Any idea why I now get 122 prints of the event where I used to get two?22:11
nathanypaulproteus: uh, is load_environment getting called more than once?22:11
nathany(say, 61 times?)22:12
paulproteusTrying to figure that out now.  Is there an obvious way to assert it's not?22:12
paulproteusother than a global in its module?22:12
paulproteusI mean a zope.whatever way?22:12
nathanyyou could query to see if any event handlers had been registered (or if specific ones had been)22:12
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nathanybut if you're just trying to see if that's the cause, i'd use a global22:12
nathanyi *thought* that was only supposed to be called once22:13
nathany(per run)22:13
paulproteusJust did the global and caught an assertion violation. (-:22:13
paulproteusThat'd be fun, 61x the email!22:13
paulproteus(-: I'll figure it out.22:14
paulproteusUnless you have spare insight.22:14
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desrtK`Tetch_U; sup22:18
desrtanyone know what the turnaround time is on queries sent to [whoever] via the website?22:19
paulproteusdesrt, Right now it's probably a little longer than usual, since we have some people out of the office.22:21
desrttricky.22:21
* desrt is publishing a book and wants to make sure he's putting the right URL in it22:22
desrtand it's going on print real-soon-now...22:22
desrtbasically, i just recently discovered that 2.5 is DFSG-incompat so i switched to 3.022:22
desrtbut i'm publishing in canada and 3.0 is currently "unported"22:23
desrtso this URL: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ca/ doesn't currently have a license at the end of it22:23
paulproteusYes - I think I saw an answer to that from us.22:23
paulproteusBasically, "don't do that," only refer to existing licenses.22:23
desrti see.22:23
paulproteusGiven the circumstances, I suggest you use 3.0 Generic if DFSG compliance is crucial to you.22:24
desrtso i'd be better off using the unported one?22:24
paulproteusWhich I appreciate, as a Debian maintainer. (-:22:24
paulproteusYeah.22:24
desrtbut is it correct to assume (under reasonable conditions like the LHC not killing us all) that the license will be ported eventually and will appear there?22:25
nathanydesrt: not necessarily; porting depends on people in other jurisdictions giving time/resources/etc22:26
nathanyso if all canadian lawyers decided to chuck it, no 3.022:26
desrttricky.22:27
nathanyit's likely, but not guaranteed (at least one jurisdiction is still @ 1.0)22:27
desrtheh.  the cc-ca list appears particularly *dead*22:27
desrtone message this year :)22:27
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desrtok.  thanks for the info.  i was under the impression that 3.0 was very new and the ports were still all in-progress.22:29
desrtcheerio.22:29
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K`Tetch_Uhey desrt22:40
K`Tetch_Ubum22:40
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