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| paulproteus | BTW I interrupted the memtest86 at 75% OK, but curiously the Live CD works fine, and e2fsck thinks both my filesystems are okay. | 00:16 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: It only seemed to hang when it tried to start X, right? | 00:29 |
| nkinkade | Can you boot into single user mode? | 00:30 |
| paulproteus | The kernel gave a BUG message when I passed it init=/bin/sh mem=512. | 00:38 |
| paulproteus | But the live CD is totally fine. | 00:38 |
| paulproteus | "for now", naturally. | 00:38 |
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| virhilo | hello | 11:59 |
| virhilo | creative commons is good license for scripts? | 11:59 |
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| virhilo | if i want to share my scripts source codes but i also want to forbid commercial use of it- the better license is: CC or CPL? | 12:23 |
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| virhilo | rozenkranc: ? | 13:41 |
| virhilo | sry | 13:41 |
| virhilo | creative commons is good license for programs and scripts? | 13:42 |
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| virhilo | creative commons is good license for programs and scripts? | 14:41 |
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| nathany | virhilo: no | 15:47 |
| nathany | the licenses are not designed with software in mind | 15:48 |
| nathany | there are lots of good open source licenses out there that are much much better for code than CC licenses | 15:48 |
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| virhilo | nathany: but which forbid commercial use of it? | 16:16 |
| nathany | which open source licenses? | 16:17 |
| virhilo | yes | 16:17 |
| * virhilo is not sure about Common Public License | 16:17 | |
| nathany | that's never been a use case for me so i'm not familiar with any that do so | 16:17 |
| nathany | you *can* use a CC license, we just don't recommend it | 16:17 |
| paulproteus | Morning, y'all. | 16:18 |
| nathany | morning, paulproteus | 16:30 |
| paulproteus | I think I might buy a ThinkPad X300. | 16:31 |
| paulproteus | I can't tell if I'm just thinking that because I'm stressed out or if it's actually a reasonable idea. | 16:31 |
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| Bovinity | paulproteus: come on down to the office if you want to borrow my eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeePC | 16:50 |
| paulproteus | eeeee! | 16:50 |
| * paulproteus 's stress level decreases markedly. | 16:51 | |
| paulproteus | AC adapter and all? | 16:51 |
| Bovinity | and all | 16:51 |
| paulproteus | I nearly impulse-bought a ThinkPad X300 off Craigslist. | 16:51 |
| paulproteus | Although I may still do that. | 16:51 |
| paulproteus | At least the impulse isn't as powerful right now. | 16:52 |
| Bovinity | although, i just booted it up, and it's kinda freaking out. hmm. | 16:52 |
| paulproteus | Freak out! | 16:52 |
| Bovinity | ah, it stoppd freaking out | 16:54 |
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| paulproteus | Un-Freak Out! | 17:04 |
| paulproteus | Freak In! | 17:04 |
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| paulproteus | currybot, list | 17:43 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, Looks like either the ThinkPad T400 or the X300, which is pretty expensive but small. | 17:45 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I sort of like the smaller Thinkpads. | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, and the X300 has nice resolution. | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | Jon's is pretty nice, and so is Ahrash's. | 17:46 |
| nkinkade | Ah. What resolution? | 17:46 |
| paulproteus | 1440x900 or something. | 17:47 |
| paulproteus | 13" | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | Tiny icons! | 17:47 |
| nkinkade | How much does it go for? And much extra for a pair of 10,000 RPM Cheetahs? :-) | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | Heh. | 17:48 |
| paulproteus | $2K for the X300, and it comes with a 64GB SSD (but it's a "regular" 1.8" SATA bay, which could presumably take a real hard drive). | 17:48 |
| Bovinity | that's fairly cheap for a thinkpad with an ssd | 17:48 |
| nkinkade | $2K. Wow, that *is* pretty expensive. | 17:49 |
| paulproteus | I'm considering buying one off Craigslist from a dude for that much. You can also get them online shipped within a few weeks for the same price. | 17:50 |
| paulproteus | If I can borrow Alex's eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeePC for a while, I could maybe be a good boy and wait, and then turn around and scream "Windows Refund!". | 17:50 |
| paulproteus | Having no laptop is sort of freaking me out. | 17:50 |
| Bovinity | well it's here and you can borrow it | 17:51 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:51 | |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, Were you versioning the widget at http://support.creativecommons.org/widget at all? | 17:53 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: it ought to be in svn. the versioning scheme on the css is so people get the updated css when it changes. | 17:54 |
| paulproteus | Cool - you may know I intend to tidy up the JS a bit. | 17:55 |
| Bovinity | have at it | 17:55 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to reboot my desktop, get a burrito, and see you all soon. | 17:55 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: Have you seen the front page of ccLearn? | 18:12 |
| nathany | currybot: list | 18:12 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Am I missing something in the Pootle interface regarding viewing untranslated strings? It doesn't seem to work as expected. | 18:30 |
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| velizarov | exit | 22:04 |
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| nkinkade | Bovinity: paulproteus: I've got a good one for you: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ro/ | 23:06 |
| nkinkade | Put that in your pipe and smoke it. | 23:06 |
| Bovinity | SMOOTH | 23:07 |
| nkinkade | Beer on me for the person who can figure out what is wrong with the page. | 23:07 |
| Bovinity | are you sure it was rebuilt when you were rebuilding all the others? | 23:08 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Hi. | 23:08 |
| paulproteus | Hee. | 23:08 |
| nkinkade | It's a mystery to me, paulproteus. If you strip the DOCTYPE it works fine. | 23:09 |
| paulproteus | Is this the new "simple display for small Internet laptops" skin? | 23:09 |
| paulproteus | (-; | 23:09 |
| Bovinity | it's rendering in "Standards compliance mode" | 23:09 |
| Bovinity | whereas all the others are in quirks | 23:09 |
| paulproteus | So is your mother. | 23:09 |
| Bovinity | WH YTHIS IS, i dunno. paulproteus' mother perhaps? | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | It's just very curious why it's not apply the stylesheet. | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | It's probably that the rules don | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | 't apply to the elements in Strict Mode. | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | This keyboard is somwhat small. | 23:10 |
| Bovinity | all the other license files don't have the doctype. | 23:10 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus' mother is behind all sorts of things, like the advancement of IMAP, for example. | 23:10 |
| paulproteus | Not to mention Subversion. | 23:11 |
| Bovinity | /by/3.0/hr for isntance, no DOCTYPE | 23:11 |
| Bovinity | /by/3.0/ro, DOCTYPE'd | 23:11 |
| paulproteus | She joked yesterday about her laptop: "It's Tortoise[SVN] that slows it all down." | 23:11 |
| paulproteus | I didn | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: Yeah, I just regenerated those Deeds. | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | haha. | 23:11 |
| paulproteus | 't get the joke at first. (-: | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | That's not something you hear out of a mother's mouth very often. | 23:11 |
| nkinkade | "It's Tortoise[SVN] that slows it all down." Always is. | 23:12 |
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| paulproteus | nkinkade, I bet if you look at the DOM Fx generates for the page in Standards Mode vs. Quirks Mode, they'll be different. | 23:12 |
| nkinkade | Why is she still in the 20th century? Hasn't she figure out git yet? | 23:12 |
| paulproteus | Well, maybe not "bet." | 23:12 |
| paulproteus | Eh, I still have her stuck on svn for now; maybe I'll move her to TortoiseHg later on. | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Bovinity: But what's interesting is this: http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ro/ | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | I think there's something strange going on on the server side. | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | But how that could be I don't know. | 23:13 |
| nkinkade | Varnish, probably. | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 23:14 |
| nkinkade | Nope. Not Varnish. Sorry Varnish-Cache ... we love you still. | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | Speaking of which, we should check out that Varnish art gallery before it's all over. | 23:15 |
| nkinkade | I looked in the door the other day. It's looks a little shee-shee, yay-yay. | 23:15 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, I just removed your $HOME here. | 23:17 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Well, you're right about one thing. There no stylesheet rules for in the DOM of the broken page, but there are for staging. | 23:19 |
| paulproteus | <style></style> or lacking self-closing tags or something? | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | Just a guess based on not reading the HTML. | 23:20 |
| paulproteus | For now I advise turning off strict mode like Bovinity said. | 23:20 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: But the working one on staging is Standards Compliance Mode as well. | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | Oh. | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | And that one works, so I'm not inclined to believe that that is it. | 23:21 |
| Bovinity | plenty of validation errors.. http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcreativecommons.org%2Flicenses%2Fby%2F3.0%2Fro%2F | 23:21 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: Bovinity: I think I just figured it out. staging it serving it correctly as text/css, but production is serving CSS as text/html. | 23:27 |
| nkinkade | rofl. | 23:27 |
| Bovinity | haha | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | Yay@ | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | ! | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | Tag soup. | 23:27 |
| paulproteus | FireBug on an eee is an interesting concept. | 23:27 |
| Bovinity | firebug disagrees with you | 23:28 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade, that is | 23:28 |
| Bovinity | oh, phooey, damn remote yahoo files. | 23:28 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: How does Firebug disagree with me? It thinks they are text/css | 23:29 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I didn't see any rofling! | 23:29 |
| Bovinity | i was looking at a file i thought we served, but in fact, don't. | 23:29 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: I was rofling in my mind. | 23:30 |
| paulproteus | Touche. | 23:30 |
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| paulproteus | dimensions: 800x480 pixels (211x126 millimeters) | 23:38 |
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