| brianrowe | Food before DK? | 00:05 |
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| greg-g | anyone.. anyone.. | 00:08 |
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| mlinksva | conflatin' | 02:26 |
| rejon | night time sf :) | 02:27 |
| mecredis | RIP | 02:31 |
| mecredis | (sampling license sf, et. al) | 02:32 |
| mlinksva | CC+ is NOT a license | 02:32 |
| rejon | ok, who can make the comment | 02:36 |
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| rejon | hahaha, converted lessig and Joiito to identica...hahaha :) | 02:38 |
| mecredis | heh | 02:38 |
| mecredis | how is identi.ca / twitter? | 02:38 |
| mecredis | lost track | 02:38 |
| BobChao | rejon, is there any client for identica? | 02:38 |
| rejon | that is my mission this week: to finally dig into http://autonomo.us and do something useful | 02:38 |
| rejon | just your chat client | 02:39 |
| rejon | it is drop in replacement for twitter | 02:39 |
| rejon | has twitter compatible api | 02:39 |
| BobChao | would like to have one like twitterfox or twitux | 02:39 |
| rejon | add us: http://identi.ca/rejon mlinksva joi lessig rmack elliotbledsoe | 02:39 |
| rejon | @bobchao: yes, the work with and there are patches or updates to them that work with identi.ca | 02:39 |
| cchelpbot` | rejon: Error: "bobchao:" is not a valid command. | 02:39 |
| rejon | bobchao: yes, the work with and there are patches or updates to them that work with identi.ca | 02:40 |
| BobChao | mine: http://identi.ca/bobchao | 02:40 |
| * mecredis is http://identi.ca/mecredis | 02:40 | |
| BobChao | another question: is there a legalday channel? | 02:40 |
| rejon | this one | 02:40 |
| BobChao | ok, thanks :) | 02:40 |
| rejon | then you can use http://twitterfeed.com and/or http://ping.fm to post to twitter and other sites when you identicate | 02:41 |
| mlinksva | a list can be EMPTY! | 02:41 |
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| mecredis | will identica post to ping or vice veresa? | 02:42 |
| mecredis | rejon, get 'er done | 02:44 |
| BobChao | lol | 02:45 |
| BobChao | Cool, just install a patched version of twitux from mako | 02:50 |
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| mecredis | *this is amazing* | 02:54 |
| mecredis | what about drew roberts? | 02:54 |
| rejon | this is so funny data | 02:57 |
| mecredis | this is amazing | 02:58 |
| mecredis | I want cc-community | 02:58 |
| mlinksva | which list is this and what time period? cc-lcienses? | 02:58 |
| mecredis | haha | 02:58 |
| mecredis | this is cc-licenses | 02:59 |
| mlinksva | going to have to dent that slide | 03:00 |
| mecredis | hahah | 03:00 |
| mecredis | ahaha | 03:01 |
| mecredis | do they? | 03:03 |
| mecredis | SOMETHING HAPPENED | 03:06 |
| rejon | artifacts outside the list...wiki! | 03:09 |
| rejon | the wiki!!! | 03:09 |
| rejon | nip that in the bud before massive time waste happens | 03:10 |
| mecredis | I'm kind of dumbfounded by his research here | 03:10 |
| mecredis | I had no idea | 03:10 |
| rejon | cc community is a collection pool for ___ people. | 03:12 |
| * JoiIto pedals | 03:12 | |
| * mecredis wheels fall off | 03:13 | |
| JoiIto | did we forget to put that in the licenses? | 03:14 |
| JoiIto | ;-) | 03:14 |
| mecredis | that's in there | 03:14 |
| mecredis | it says something like "something similar to these terms" | 03:15 |
| mlinksva | we have a wiki, please use it! :) | 03:15 |
| mecredis | hrm | 03:16 |
| rejon | yes, totally | 03:17 |
| mecredis | hahaha | 03:17 |
| mecredis | wearing a hazmat suit | 03:17 |
| rejon | no one is going to make a tool that does this...at the end of the day, if into higher quality discussion, then contribute it! | 03:17 |
| rejon | pick up the shovel! | 03:17 |
| mecredis | haha | 03:17 |
| mecredis | and a hazmat suit | 03:17 |
| mlinksva | flickr uploading is incredibly slow or not working from here | 03:21 |
| BobChao | mlinksva: I can't even connect to gmail last night (in Grand hotel), though it works this morning. | 03:26 |
| mlinksva | cc-traffic | 03:35 |
| JoiIto | bug tracker! ;-) | 03:42 |
| JoiIto | I met someone at OSCON who had his whole life on a bug tracker | 03:42 |
| JoiIto | they did license drafting with a bug tracker | 03:42 |
| JoiIto | btw, openID is bugging out for me when trying to log into the wiki | 03:46 |
| * ankitg toys with the idea of changing the name of his GSoC project to "cc-traffic" ... | 03:49 | |
| rejon | cc-metrics | 03:59 |
| rejon | keep it clear | 03:59 |
| rejon | and in line ;) | 03:59 |
| rejon | yah, I want whole cities to have bug trackers...joiito | 03:59 |
| mlinksva | use of word "problematicize" is a strong signal | 03:59 |
| rejon | NYC has a ticket tracker for the city, which is closest...there should be ways for anyone to help fix bugs too for city and then get credits for fixing...provide path for homeless and others to rise out of hole | 04:00 |
| rejon | credits for fixing bugs, maybe tax credits | 04:00 |
| ankitg | rejon: my project is metrics from the logs at the moment ... so I called it "cc-logger" ... but I was told it sounds like I an app to record the logs O_o ... cc-traffic on the other hand is neat ... as I am actually analyzing the network traffic to the CC sites ... anyways, it may be too late to change the name now ... loggy it is. | 04:03 |
| rejon | ;) | 04:04 |
| rejon | loggy is cool | 04:04 |
| ankitg | Also, bug-tracker for license drafting seems like a "legit" use ... I mean, you are trying to iron out the "bugs" from the drafts ... | 04:04 |
| rejon | like clippy | 04:04 |
| mlinksva | oh my | 04:05 |
| mlinksva | license vs contract | 04:05 |
| mlinksva | i hope lessig jumps on it | 04:05 |
| mlinksva | for entertainment value | 04:05 |
| mlinksva | replay of last year | 04:05 |
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| isforinsects | paulproteus, ping | 04:26 |
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| paulproteus | isforinsects, pong | 05:06 |
| paulproteus | rej... drat | 05:06 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva... hmm. | 05:06 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus, I need to scrape and migrate a flickr set into the OLPC account. | 05:06 |
| isforinsects | Suggestions? | 05:06 |
| isforinsects | They're all cc-by-sa-nc | 05:07 |
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| paulproteus | Should be "easy" if you write custom code against the Flickr API. | 05:07 |
| isforinsects | I was hoping that you had already done so :D | 05:08 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, SYN | 05:15 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, I'm afraid not. | 05:17 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: ack | 06:06 |
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| BobChao | I'm late! Should I get connected via FON_AP or WR540APS-AP2? (just helping people in 1st floor to "origami" and forgot the time.) | 06:12 |
| rejon1 | on the front white board:MyPlace | 06:15 |
| BobChao | rejon1: thanks, it's really hard to recognize but I'll try :) | 06:17 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, NAK (-: | 06:17 |
| paulproteus | RST rather | 06:17 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: uhh, syn again? ;) | 06:28 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, Howdy. | 06:31 |
| paulproteus | What's up, duck? | 06:31 |
| greg-g | hey | 06:31 |
| greg-g | did you get home alright on the bike? | 06:31 |
| paulproteus | Yup. | 06:32 |
| paulproteus | Was pretty neat. | 06:32 |
| greg-g | good deal | 06:32 |
| paulproteus | It's like a unicycle. | 06:32 |
| paulproteus | It just has two wheels instead of one. | 06:32 |
| greg-g | good way to think of it | 06:32 |
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| paulproteus | Howdy JoiIto. | 06:44 |
| paulproteus | Thanks, fixies are kinda nifty. (-: | 06:44 |
| paulproteus | I was just telling greg-g that it's like a unicycle, only with two wheels. | 06:44 |
| greg-g | :) | 06:56 |
| JoiIto | hehe | 07:03 |
| mecredis | yay for fixies | 07:03 |
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| davidmccabe_ | paulproteus: hey, I forgot to get on IRC yesterday. Sorry about that :( | 08:14 |
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| JoiIto | hmm...Diane's slides look like FBI warnings ;-) | 08:43 |
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| rejon | hahaha | 08:51 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: How do you start the metadata scraper for staging on a7? | 17:14 |
| nathany | cd /var/www/staging.creativecommons.org/metadata_scraper | 17:15 |
| nathany | ./bin/zdaemon -C scraper-zd.conf start | 17:15 |
| nkinkade | Ah, sorry. I should have known that. | 17:15 |
| nathany | np | 17:15 |
| greg-g | um 503 on cc.org? | 17:23 |
| greg-g | there we go, it is back | 17:24 |
| greg-g | a varnish error I hadn't seen before (503 with a "guru meditation XID:#") | 17:25 |
| * greg-g hasn't seen varnish errors before, so, they are all new to him | 17:25 | |
| Bovinity | that happened last week too. | 17:25 |
| greg-g | interesting, well, it is back now, so back to blogging | 17:26 |
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| tim_hwang | currybot list | 18:40 |
| tim_hwang | gah, whoops | 18:40 |
| tim_hwang | hey -- are stamps stashed anywhere in the office? need to mail some schwag to people... | 18:41 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=librasqal0-dev fwiw | 18:48 |
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| Bovinity | tim_hwang: ask ani when she gets in, she knows where tehy are | 18:49 |
| tim_hwang | bovinity thanks | 18:50 |
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| tim_hwang | currytime? | 19:00 |
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| paulproteus | No curry for me today. | 19:12 |
| paulproteus | nathany, labs.creativecommons/herder/ sound okay to you? | 19:15 |
| nathany | paulproteus: yes | 19:15 |
| paulproteus | We could do labs.creativecommons/translate/ | 19:16 |
| paulproteus | I think I'll do that instead unless you give reason to do otherwise. | 19:16 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Should I expect git fetch from a6 == code.creativecommons.org to work? | 19:20 |
| paulproteus | I find that my keys are rejected, and I don't currently know why. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: No. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | But you should expect it work on a7. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | a6 was actually reprovisioned to amd64 last night. | 19:21 |
| paulproteus | Right. | 19:21 |
| paulproteus | I wonder why I'm pulling from a6. | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | So at the moment it's just an empty install | 19:21 |
| nkinkade | /etc/hosts? | 19:22 |
| paulproteus | I checked; nothing there related. | 19:22 |
| paulproteus | But DNS is fine. | 19:22 |
| paulproteus | So maybe I git cloned from a6 manually once. | 19:22 |
| paulproteus | Silly me. | 19:22 |
| paulproteus | Yup, that's what I did. | 19:24 |
| Bovinity | http://threadless.com/product/1362/21st_Century_Pirate | 19:35 |
| nathany | LOL | 19:35 |
| paulproteus | The drawing is a little busy. | 19:38 |
| paulproteus | But I guess, so is the life of a 21st century pirate. | 19:38 |
| Bovinity | busy for a shirt, yes. but very rad for an illustration. | 19:38 |
| Bovinity | the true winner this week is http://threadless.com/product/1361/Animals_with_Eyepatches_Yes | 19:40 |
| paulproteus | Maybe Jen or Melissa can knit Herbert an eyepatch. | 19:41 |
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| davidmccabe | paulproteus? | 19:43 |
| paulproteus | davidmccabe, Howdy. | 19:43 |
| davidmccabe | Sorry I forgot to come on yesterday. :( | 19:43 |
| paulproteus | At least you left a note saying you were sorry. | 19:43 |
| davidmccabe | I hope you didn't have to wait around. | 19:44 |
| davidmccabe | Do people really come on here asking for credit-card numbers? | 19:44 |
| paulproteus | No, I watched the new Batman movie on IMAX instead. | 19:44 |
| paulproteus | Yup, they sure do. | 19:44 |
| paulproteus | It's #cc, for Christ's sake. | 19:44 |
| davidmccabe | ODd. | 19:44 |
| paulproteus | Hash credit card. | 19:44 |
| paulproteus | You have some time to handle that now? | 19:47 |
| davidmccabe | I think I'm jsut going to commit what I have as one commit instead of giving you the history. | 19:47 |
| davidmccabe | I see no reason you'd want a bunch of intemediate commits anyways. | 19:48 |
| davidmccabe | your RSA host key has changed? | 19:48 |
| paulproteus | Wait! | 19:49 |
| paulproteus | Intermediate commits rule! | 19:49 |
| davidmccabe | I'm getting f3:a1:9e:6e:8d:fc:33:5c:b7:0c:ee:8a:f9:88:c2:ab for the fingerprint. This is because of switching to 64bit? | 19:49 |
| paulproteus | I think so. Double-check with nkinkade. | 19:49 |
| paulproteus | I think in <5m you can give us the intermediate commits. | 19:50 |
| paulproteus | For example, by "git rebase --onto". | 19:50 |
| davidmccabe | That will associate my copy with a different remote copy? | 19:51 |
| * davidmccabe isn't sure what the proper word is instead of 'copy'. | 19:51 | |
| paulproteus | No, what you should do is: | 19:51 |
| paulproteus | * add a remote that points to our repository | 19:51 |
| paulproteus | Call that remote, let's say, "cc". | 19:52 |
| paulproteus | Then "just" do: | 19:52 |
| paulproteus | git rebase --onto cc/master | 19:52 |
| davidmccabe | cc/master or cc/rdfa? | 19:52 |
| nkinkade | davidmccabe: That is the correct key fingerprint. | 19:52 |
| davidmccabe | nkinkade: thanks. | 19:52 |
| paulproteus | Oh, cc/rdfa probably. | 19:52 |
| paulproteus | nathany, translate-staging.creativecommons.org instead is what I'll use. | 19:53 |
| paulproteus | Since there's some fiddly bits going on with paths. | 19:53 |
| nathany | uh, ok | 19:53 |
| davidmccabe | so I would say 'git remote add cc git@code.creativecommons.org:semanticmediawiki'? | 19:53 |
| paulproteus | davidmccabe, I think so - just make sure you have "cc" and the git repo URL in the right order. | 19:54 |
| paulproteus | (I always forget) | 19:54 |
| davidmccabe | I do. | 19:54 |
| davidmccabe | Right now I'm only tracking the files I've actually changed. Should I add in the rest of SMW? | 19:55 |
| paulproteus | Yes. | 19:55 |
| paulproteus | If that's true, though, you're better off using cherry-pick I guess. | 19:55 |
| paulproteus | That way you don't have to add the other SMW files to your own repo. | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | git checkout cc/rdfa | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | gitk --all & | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | Then git cherry-pick each revision you want. | 19:56 |
| davidmccabe | I already added it. | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | The reason I prefer cherry-pick is that you didn't add it to the past, probably, only to the present. | 19:57 |
| davidmccabe | git branch -a is not showing the remote | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | So I still suggest you do the cherry-pick way (which is fine). | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | You should do "git fetch". | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | git fetch cc, even. | 19:57 |
| * davidmccabe wonders how he's ever going to learn git. | 19:57 | |
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| davidmccabe | ok, trying cherrypick | 19:58 |
| davidmccabe | ummmm | 20:00 |
| davidmccabe | this was designed by kernel hackers. | 20:00 |
| davidmccabe | I can see the commits I want, but how do I cherry-pick them? | 20:00 |
| davidmccabe | (or do anything with them for that matter) | 20:00 |
| davidmccabe | ohh | 20:00 |
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| davidmccabe | the GUI is just to see them, gotcha. | 20:00 |
| paulproteus | davidmccabe, Making sense now? | 20:02 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Actually the errors were worse than I thought; there's some dependency version nonsense breaking the tests. | 20:02 |
| davidmccabe | *phew* | 20:10 |
| davidmccabe | Now, I don't want to cherry-pick the commit in which I started tracking everything, just now, right? | 20:10 |
| davidmccabe | Also, once I have done this, the cc/rdfa branch is up-to-date and I'm done, right? | 20:10 |
| davidmccabe | I should also git push or something? | 20:10 |
| * paulproteus blinks | 20:13 | |
| paulproteus | You want to cherry pick all the commits you, like, want. | 20:13 |
| paulproteus | I don't understand what your question is. | 20:13 |
| paulproteus | As for the "the cc/rdfa branch is up-to-date" - no, git only commits to local branches. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | So you have to create a local branch based off cc/rdfa in order to do the commit. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | I moronically told you to "git checkout cc/rdfa", which was utterly wrong. | 20:14 |
| paulproteus | You should have done: | 20:14 |
| davidmccabe | Seeing as I did do that, how do I recover? | 20:14 |
| davidmccabe | damn, I thought I had a pretty good handle on git before this project :P | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | git checkout -b my_fun_time | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | That checks the current state into a new branch called "my_fun_time". | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | Take a look at gitk, and see that it looks like what you want. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | Which should be linear history on top of cc/rdfa. | 20:15 |
| paulproteus | If so, do "git push cc my_fun_time:rdfa". | 20:15 |
| davidmccabe | hurrah | 20:17 |
| davidmccabe | http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit?url=semanticmediawiki.git/log/&h=rdfa | 20:17 |
| paulproteus | Wow, super rad. | 20:18 |
| davidmccabe | thanks for your help. | 20:18 |
| paulproteus | Sure thing. | 20:19 |
| davidmccabe | paulproteus: I have a really slick flickr thing. | 20:19 |
| davidmccabe | which, for the time being, I'm actually hooking up to the flickr API. | 20:19 |
| paulproteus | As regard what we were talking about? | 20:19 |
| davidmccabe | yes. | 20:19 |
| paulproteus | Tell me more! | 20:19 |
| davidmccabe | paulproteus: How would tag searches and other searches work with a distributed system? | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | You'd e.g. ping a central indexer. | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | Kind of like how Technorati and other pingback-based blog searchers work. | 20:20 |
| paulproteus | Presumably anyone could ask to have pings relayed to it, just like blog pingback services. | 20:20 |
| * davidmccabe hasn't used technorati, but makes sense. | 20:21 | |
| davidmccabe | paulproteus: When I give the SMW-list instructions, are these correct? | 20:22 |
| paulproteus | Huh? | 20:23 |
| davidmccabe | git clone git://code.creativecommons.org/semanticmediawiki.git | 20:23 |
| davidmccabe | cd semanticmediawiki | 20:23 |
| davidmccabe | git checkout -b origin/rdfa | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | Better is: | 20:23 |
| ftobia | nathany: what was that command to package a python egg? | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | git branch --track rdfa origin/rdfa | 20:23 |
| paulproteus | git checkout rdfa | 20:24 |
| nathany | ftobia: python setup.py bdist_egg | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | davidmccabe, The semantics of "git checkout -b" suck, in my opinion, and no one should use it. | 20:24 |
| paulproteus | I just use it sometimes out of habit. | 20:24 |
| davidmccabe | git fetch to update? | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | May as well tell them, "git pull". | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | They may also want to see a diff against SMW svn trunk. | 20:25 |
| paulproteus | In fact, you may want to merge the latest SMW svn trunk work. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | Before sending this to upstream. | 20:26 |
| paulproteus | You could say, "This is based on r36380 of SMW for now; I will be merging in more recent SMW revisions shortly". | 20:27 |
| davidmccabe | Does CC necessarily want their SMW branch being clobbered? | 20:27 |
| paulproteus | More verbosity. | 20:27 |
| davidmccabe | davidmccabe -vv | 20:28 |
| davidmccabe | Is it true that our git repository is synced with their svn repository automatically? | 20:28 |
| paulproteus | It is true that the branch called "master" at http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit?url=semanticmediawiki.git/&h=rdfa does frequent automatic imports from SMW svn. | 20:30 |
| paulproteus | So in git, you might do: | 20:30 |
| paulproteus | git merge cc/master | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | git push cc my_local_fun:rdfa | 20:31 |
| davidmccabe | gotcha. | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | And then you'd be up to date against SMW svn. | 20:31 |
| * davidmccabe feels a bit dense when it comes to this. | 20:31 | |
| paulproteus | Hmm. | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | The concepts aren't crazy hard, I think they're just very different from Subversion. | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | If you felt tricky, you could use git rebase instead of git merge. | 20:31 |
| paulproteus | It would make for cleaner history. | 20:32 |
| davidmccabe | I probably just need to read up on the theory instead of just howto info. | 20:33 |
| paulproteus | That's why I like "Git from the bottom up". | 20:33 |
| davidmccabe | so from now on, since I have this local branch going, I can just commit to it and then 'git push cc foo:rdfa' to send it? | 20:34 |
| davidmccabe | and 'git merge cc/master' from time to time to get the upstream changes? | 20:34 |
| davidmccabe | and everything should be happy? | 20:34 |
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| paulproteus | davidmccabe, Yup. | 20:35 |
| davidmccabe | super duper! | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | You may have merge conflicts; if you do, you'll want to clean them up. | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | There's one downside to this method. | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | If the goal is to get upstream inclusion, then they'll be sad that the history isn't linear. | 20:36 |
| davidmccabe | git rebase would fix that? | 20:36 |
| paulproteus | Yup. It's just that then you'll need to tell people to not "git pull" but "git pull --rebase". | 20:37 |
| paulproteus | OTOH, if the changes to SMW are small enough, you could use the easy git merge-based workflow, and when the time comes, just send them one huge diff. | 20:38 |
| paulproteus | And we can always cherry-pick and whatever else to clean up the history later anyway. | 20:38 |
| paulproteus | So probably just stick to merge. | 20:38 |
| davidmccabe | k. | 20:38 |
| davidmccabe | (*phew*) | 20:39 |
| paulproteus | We don't have to worry about having a clean history right now since we can just clean it up later anyway. | 20:39 |
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| rindolf | Hi all. | 20:49 |
| rindolf | I cannot login to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:OpenIDFinish/ChooseName | 20:49 |
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| greg-g | note: the link on the right hand side of the wiki for "Content Directories" is a link to Content_Curators which redirects to Content_Directories. Umm, yeah. | 20:57 |
| greg-g | nkinkade/Bovinity ^ | 20:58 |
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| Bovinity | hmm | 21:12 |
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| nkinkade | greg-g: Do you want to fix the issue you mentioned above? | 21:28 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: sure, is that an included wiki page somewhere? | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | greg-g: I'm not sure. I was hoping you'd know just what to do. :-) | 21:31 |
| greg-g | haha | 21:31 |
| greg-g | I'm assuming it is in some template somewhere | 21:31 |
| greg-g | template/skin (I don't know the backend of smw very well) | 21:32 |
| nkinkade | But now you've called my on my ignorance, and there's no way to salvage it, but to be honest and say I don't have a clue. | 21:32 |
| greg-g | heh | 21:32 |
| greg-g | I would poke around $wiki_root/ looking for the skin/template files and it is probably in there somewhere | 21:32 |
| nathany | it's in the cc4 theme | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | But I can look into it. I'm not sure which one should be canonical, but I presume it's "Content Directories" | 21:33 |
| greg-g | what nathany said :) | 21:33 |
| nathany | we should probably just kill 3/4 of that block | 21:33 |
| greg-g | nathany: yeah? no quick links? | 21:33 |
| nathany | i find it difficult to believe anyone sees them over there, although maybe it's just because i'm logged in | 21:34 |
| nathany | regardless content directories is a joke | 21:34 |
| nathany | and the salon pages are filled with {{incomplete}} | 21:34 |
| nathany | so i'd just remove both | 21:34 |
| * greg-g is working on content directories right now | 21:34 | |
| nathany | cool | 21:34 |
| greg-g | nathany: what would need to be changed for you to move Content Directories from the "joke" category to "non_joke"? :) | 21:35 |
| nathany | the contents of the linked sites :) | 21:35 |
| nathany | i mean, right now it's just a pile of stuff -- not sure that it's going to be able to be made better, but also not sure that it serves a purpose beyond ego boost | 21:36 |
| greg-g | that is what you get from user submitted content, sparsness | 21:36 |
| nathany | right | 21:36 |
| nkinkade | Okay, the link is now fixed in the sidebar. | 21:43 |
| greg-g | nkinkade: thanks | 21:43 |
| mlinksva | nathany or nkinkade i can't ssh to a3, was going to final check on if i had any data there | 21:44 |
| mlinksva | can ping it | 21:44 |
| greg-g | I'm gonna leave the "kill 3/4 of that block" until later :) | 21:44 |
| nathany | mlinksva: let me look @ the log | 21:45 |
| nathany | (i can ssh in just fine) | 21:45 |
| nkinkade | a3 is still there, it's just not doing anything (that I know of). | 21:45 |
| nathany | did you even get to the point of entering your password? | 21:46 |
| mlinksva | no | 21:46 |
| nathany | hrm | 21:46 |
| mlinksva | and i can ssh other places just fine | 21:46 |
| nathany | oh, i think a3 has silly netfilters enabled for security | 21:46 |
| nathany | try bouncing through a5 | 21:46 |
| nathany | (ssh into a5, then into a3) | 21:46 |
| paulproteus | then into the CIA | 21:47 |
| mlinksva | just thought of that, was trying a7, not working | 21:47 |
| mlinksva | will try a5 | 21:47 |
| nkinkade | a3's SSH rate-limiting is the same as on the other machines, but it's seems to be half-broken. | 21:47 |
| mlinksva | i'm in! | 21:47 |
| mlinksva | :) | 21:47 |
| nathany | great | 21:47 |
| mlinksva | i have a bunch of crap in my home directory | 21:48 |
| paulproteus | Including some stuff that was recently useful to me. | 21:48 |
| mlinksva | i'd like to just move it to another machine rather than look through it now | 21:48 |
| paulproteus | iirc | 21:48 |
| mlinksva | what is the best machine to move it to? | 21:48 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ^^ | 21:49 |
| mlinksva | i'll copy it to a5 unless that is stupid, please say :) | 21:49 |
| paulproteus | nathany, May I borrow your headphones again? | 21:49 |
| * paulproteus wonders about the email address he@dphon.es | 21:49 | |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: better another machine than a5 right now. | 21:50 |
| nathany | mlinksva: that looks fine to me -- tons of space there | 21:50 |
| nathany | oh, right | 21:50 |
| nathany | 7 or 8, mlinksva | 21:50 |
| nathany | nkinkade: paulproteus: ftobia: Steren: stand up? | 21:50 |
| nkinkade | mlinksva: It's because the stuff on a5 will get moved yet again to a6 probabaly tomorrow. | 21:50 |
| Steren | nathany: stand up! | 21:51 |
| ftobia | nathany: let's do it. | 21:51 |
| mlinksva | ok, but ssh isn't working from a7 or 8 to a3, so i'm going to have to do it via a5 | 21:52 |
| mlinksva | doing now | 21:52 |
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| mlinksva | nathany nkinkade ok i'm done with a3 | 22:12 |
| nathany | mlinksva: great | 22:24 |
| nathany | thanks | 22:24 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, I forgot that the debug console is an arbitrary remote code execution vector. I'll disable it on the public view. | 22:35 |
| nathany | paulproteus: thanks | 22:35 |
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| tw2113 | I had a question regarding a magazine that I wanted to start, that would be licensed under CC | 22:38 |
| nathany | tw2113: shoot | 22:39 |
| tw2113 | If I take a contribution of a photo from someone else, and CC it for the issue it is in, does it also have to be CC'd away from the magazine, say on the contributer's website? | 22:40 |
| tw2113 | or can he/she have it copyrighted there, while retaining the CC license for in the magazine | 22:40 |
| paulproteus | You can do it the way you describe, but keep in mind that Eve could scan the photo in from the magazine and republish it on her website under the CC license of the magazine. | 22:41 |
| tw2113 | just curious | 22:42 |
| tw2113 | i may just make it a habit to explain to each potential contributor that it will get CC'd and do the good think of explaining the benefits | 22:42 |
| nathany | tw2113: A cc license is made to the public | 22:42 |
| nathany | so you could do what you describe, but it doesn't make much sense | 22:42 |
| tw2113 | try to make some fans out of each one :D | 22:42 |
| nathany | great :) | 22:43 |
| tw2113 | i'd encourage them to license it CC on their own sites, but i can't guarantee that will happen with everyone | 22:43 |
| nathany | they should just understand that it doesn't matter what they do on the site | 22:44 |
| tw2113 | got it | 22:44 |
| nathany | if you make the image available under a CC license, you're making it available to the public under that license | 22:44 |
| tw2113 | it'd likely be by-nd-sa | 22:45 |
| tw2113 | the whole magazine | 22:45 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Trivial nitpick: /etc.LOL interferes with my tab-completing /et to /etc/ . | 22:45 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: On which machine? Just delete it. | 22:47 |
| paulproteus | I'll move it to /tmp/ instead, but okay. | 22:47 |
| paulproteus | (a5 right now) | 22:47 |
| paulproteus | BTW I just added translate-staging CNAME a7. | 22:47 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: How about herder CNAME a7? | 22:48 |
| nkinkade | These staging-* names are somewhat lenghty. | 22:48 |
| paulproteus | I figure the herder name is somewhat internal. | 22:48 |
| paulproteus | But good point. | 22:48 |
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| nkinkade | Soon we'll have a *-staging for every site. :-) | 22:48 |
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| paulproteus | staging-staging.creativecommons-staging.org-staging | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | staging-staging.creativecommons.org would be great, that would solve those cases where I didn't want to break staging. | 22:50 |
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| paulproteus | I figured creativecommons.org-staging would be nice for when we want to test DNS changes without possibly breaking the org TLD. | 22:51 |
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| Steren | nathany: ok it's solved, in fact I compared closely the javascripts of the deeds and of the chooser. It was width:250 that had to be width:'250px', | 22:58 |
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| ftobia | paulproteus: i see you have http://labs.creativecommons.org/~paulproteus/eggs/ as a dependency link in herder. what's the best place for me to put my cc.license egg for cc.api? | 23:13 |
| paulproteus | Man, I'm hungry. | 23:14 |
| paulproteus | labs/~ftobia/ sounds reasonable. | 23:14 |
| greg-g | Steren: if I check "this is a minor edit" when editing a task on teamspace, does it send an email to all people subscribed to that tast still? | 23:15 |
| ftobia | is there some reason we don't want to submit cc.license to pypi? | 23:15 |
| greg-g | Steren: that might be a good option to have. The ability to stop it from sending an email for minor edits. | 23:15 |
| Steren | greg-g: Mmmm I think so, the mail is sent after any edit | 23:15 |
| greg-g | Steren: just a suggestion :) | 23:15 |
| Steren | greg-g: I like it | 23:15 |
| greg-g | ok | 23:15 |
| Steren | greg-g: I'll have a look soon | 23:16 |
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| greg-g | Steren: cool, no rush of course, I'm not your boss ;) | 23:16 |
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| ftobia | paulproteus: can you think of a good reason not to upload cc.license to pypi? | 23:21 |
| paulproteus | If it's in beta, nah, go ahead, I say. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | Email NY saying you did that. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | I think he's shier about publishing stuff there than I am. | 23:22 |
| paulproteus | But, like, whatevs. | 23:22 |
| ftobia | yeah i looked at it and it seems pretty open to accepting stuff. | 23:22 |
| greg-g | the opposite of a documentary film is a ______ ? | 23:23 |
| paulproteus | insensitive clod | 23:23 |
| ftobia | mockumentary film | 23:23 |
| paulproteus | documentary cucumber | 23:23 |
| paulproteus | uninformative zucchini | 23:23 |
| tim_hwang | ambiguous tuber | 23:23 |
| greg-g | reword: if I wanted to give people a choice for classifying a film, one option would be "is it a documentary or a ____" ? | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | tuber | 23:24 |
| ftobia | "chick flick" | 23:24 |
| paulproteus | "feature film"? | 23:24 |
| tim_hwang | "fantasy epic" | 23:24 |
| greg-g | ok, one vote for "feature film"... any others? | 23:25 |
| greg-g | ;) | 23:25 |
| greg-g | thanks for the wonderful help, btw | 23:25 |
| tim_hwang | hahaha, actually, from what i've read of film theory | 23:25 |
| tim_hwang | it's actualy supposed to be "avant garde" | 23:25 |
| greg-g | errr, I'm vetoing that one | 23:26 |
| greg-g | :) | 23:26 |
| tim_hwang | hahaha | 23:26 |
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| tw2113 | i had another somewhat related question | 23:43 |
| tw2113 | are any of you members of AIGA? | 23:43 |
| Bovinity | yes | 23:43 |
| tw2113 | i'm curious if they're worth the cost of membership, and CC would be a good place to ask as we'd all be creative types | 23:43 |
| Bovinity | if you're looking for work, or design support with other designers, it can be worth it | 23:44 |
| Bovinity | CC hasn't had any involvement with AIGA | 23:44 |
| tw2113 | yeah, i figured CC didn't have direct involvement, but i figured that the people who use CC may also be members | 23:45 |
| tw2113 | it may be something worth saving some money for | 23:45 |
| Bovinity | are you a student? | 23:46 |
| tw2113 | not any more, so i wouldn't get those prices | 23:47 |
| tw2113 | i'd be at the associate level for them | 23:47 |
| Bovinity | yeah... student rate is well worth it, especially getting your portfolio out | 23:47 |
| tw2113 | should have tried joining my last year or something | 23:48 |
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| ftobia | paulproteus: cc.license is official: http://pypi.python.org/pypi/cc.license/0.01 | 23:56 |
| paulproteus | Yay! | 23:57 |
| greg-g | man, there is a lot of grunt work to semantic wiki | 23:57 |
| greg-g | defining forms, templates, properties, geez | 23:57 |
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