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| jibot | greg-g is "developing" the "community" for "creative commons" | 12:02 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, Still alive, then? | 12:13 |
| * paulproteus isn't encouraged by the quiet | 12:14 | |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: I'm much much better. I hit the bed and was out | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | Great (-: | 12:31 |
| greg-g | just finished breakfast, so, I think I am in the clear now | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | Sort of a waste to be sick on a weekend rather than take a sick day. (-; | 12:31 |
| greg-g | again, very sorry for that. little food + sun = upset stomach :( | 12:31 |
| greg-g | heh, very tru | 12:31 |
| greg-g | e | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | No worries (-: | 12:31 |
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| jibot | Steren is sitting next to greg-g and from Nancy | 13:11 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, BTW, yes, my ideas about Ubuntu Bug Jam timing and Debconf timing were right. | 13:19 |
| paulproteus | Debconf <http://debconf8.debconf.org/> starts Sat Aug 10. | 13:19 |
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| greg-g | paulproteus: I need to know why they (Ubuntu peeps) thought that was a good time, I'm going to go do some sleuthing | 13:36 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, I was thinking maybe I can/should just email debconf-discuss and see if we can get an Ubuntu Bug Jam going on Saturday, the day before the conference really begins. | 13:36 |
| paulproteus | I admit, I would prefer it if Ubuntu folks did this. | 13:36 |
| greg-g | really? having an Ubuntu person say "hey Debianites, lets do an Ubuntu Bug Jam at Debconf!" sounds good? | 13:37 |
| paulproteus | Let me add some clarity. | 13:37 |
| paulproteus | Debconf starts Sunday, but we can stay in our hotel rooms Saturday night, the night before. | 13:38 |
| * greg-g nods | 13:38 | |
| paulproteus | The week before Debconf, there is a "Debcamp" event, I think in the same space. | 13:38 |
| paulproteus | So I think that if an Ubuntu dude said, "I want to make sure there is space and time on Saturday before Debconf for people who want to to do an Ubuntu Bug Jam, plus Debianites, sign up here," that would work swimmingly. | 13:38 |
| paulproteus | Really it's a nearly perfect day to involve Debian folks who might be around early. | 13:39 |
| greg-g | right right | 13:39 |
| paulproteus | And also those who are finishing up the hackathon-style Debcamp event. | 13:39 |
| greg-g | cool | 13:39 |
| paulproteus | BTW, I own ashee.sh. | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | I haven't done anything with it yet. | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | (Seeing holba.ch reminded me of that.) | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | BTW, do you know PGP signing works for Launchpad PPAs? | 13:41 |
| greg-g | yeah, you can sign your packages I believe (I haven't done it, but, I believe I have seen that discussion) | 13:43 |
| greg-g | what is .sh? | 13:43 |
| paulproteus | But who signs the binaries, since I'm not the one who actually compiles them? | 13:43 |
| paulproteus | Saint Helena Islands | 13:43 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: re: binary: hmmmm | 13:44 |
| greg-g | #launchpad would know :) | 13:44 |
| paulproteus | Ya (-: | 13:44 |
| paulproteus | I'll run over there or something. | 13:44 |
| greg-g | sorry, I haven't messed with PPAs other than just getting packages from them before | 13:44 |
| paulproteus | SO here's my real question: | 13:44 |
| paulproteus | When you add a PPA, have you had to do the apt-key dance? | 13:45 |
| paulproteus | To add a new person's key? | 13:45 |
| greg-g | no | 13:45 |
| greg-g | so I guess that means either A) you can't sign them or B) no one has that I have used | 13:45 |
| paulproteus | Or c) some Ubuntu.com key signs them. | 13:45 |
| greg-g | right | 13:45 |
| paulproteus | That's what I think is probably going on. | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | Which is okay. *shrug* | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | Why do I get a warning about unauthenticated packages? | 13:47 |
| paulproteus | At present the PPA system does not sign the archive, and Ubuntu's apt will issue a warning when fetching from such archives. This is bug 125103. | 13:47 |
| paulproteus | -- https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart | 13:47 |
| paulproteus | Curious (/me reads more). | 13:48 |
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| greg-g | oh right! I forgot, I do get that warning in aptitude. That was funny because my girlfriend was updating the laptop I leant her and she was warry because the warning is very scary. "If you install this untrusted program it could contain malicious code and wreck havock on your life" or something to that effect | 13:51 |
| paulproteus | And she's right! | 13:52 |
| paulproteus | I'm pleased with the quality of discussion on the bug. | 13:53 |
| paulproteus | From Colin Watson. | 13:56 |
| paulproteus | "As usual", Ubuntu users who say they don't use Debian indicate a lower level of technical competence. | 13:56 |
| paulproteus | Okay, at the point where I say aloud, "No you moron," that means I'm no longer pleased with the quality of discussion. | 13:58 |
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| greg-g | heh | 14:00 |
| greg-g | off to the coffee shop | 14:06 |
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| jibot | greg-g is "developing" the "community" for "creative commons" | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | greg-g, So I know what's up with the Bug Jam thing, are you going to start seeing about the Debconf/Bug Jam thing? | 15:45 |
| paulproteus | Or should I expect to work on that? | 15:45 |
| greg-g | paulproteus: I message Jorge Castro, the "upstream liason" within Canonical | 15:55 |
| greg-g | s/message/messaged/ | 15:55 |
| greg-g | I gave him the idea you proposed and he he should respond sometime soon. I think he is moving this weekend though | 15:56 |
| paulproteus | Great. I'd be happy to be kept CC: or credit with the idea. (-: | 15:56 |
| greg-g | of course, I pastebined the conversation from this morning for him | 15:57 |
| greg-g | so, for now, it is credited to "a coworker from CC" and "paulproteus" ;) | 15:57 |
| paulproteus | That should do (-: | 15:57 |
| greg-g | I was thinking, are you on planet debian? | 15:57 |
| paulproteus | I'm not currently. | 15:58 |
| paulproteus | I should perhaps change that and just broadcast this there. | 15:58 |
| greg-g | exactly what I was thining | 15:58 |
| greg-g | +k | 15:58 |
| paulproteus | Vaguely on my TODO is to make tag-based RSS feeds for asheesh.orgy. | 15:58 |
| greg-g | and then I could blog on planet ubuntu with a link to your blog entry | 15:58 |
| paulproteus | Egad. | 15:58 |
| greg-g | ummm, ;) | 15:58 |
| paulproteus | That's such a good idea, if Jorge doesn't reply by tomorrow let's just do. | 15:58 |
| greg-g | sounds good | 15:58 |
| greg-g | yay team work | 15:59 |
| rejon1 | greg-g++ | 16:02 |
| greg-g | afternoon rejon1 | 16:02 |
| greg-g | rejon1: how was the ride yesterday? | 16:03 |
| rejon1 | didn't happen...couldn't find bike big enough for bjorn | 16:03 |
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| rejon | I tried to call paulproteus to use the bike at office, but no return call ;) | 16:04 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Oh, oops! | 16:04 |
| greg-g | dang out of service beach! | 16:04 |
| paulproteus | That, and I've been in "I don't really like cell phones" mode lately. | 16:05 |
| rejon | its ok, just drove around all day which is better to cover more ground... | 16:06 |
| greg-g | where did you go? | 16:08 |
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| rejon | all over | 16:12 |
| rejon | super tired, slept till like noon today | 16:12 |
| greg-g | well done | 16:12 |
| greg-g | that was me yesterday, went to bed around 10 Friday, slept till 11ish on sat. Felt soooo freaking good | 16:12 |
| paulproteus | rejon, FYI, I never said liblicense was quite *in* Fedora yet. | 16:17 |
| paulproteus | Also it's still rude to change milestones on a project that's not yours. | 16:17 |
| rejon | project not ours? | 16:18 |
| rejon | whose is it? | 16:18 |
| rejon | disagree | 16:18 |
| rejon | we have been putting in significant effort into this | 16:18 |
| rejon | for months | 16:18 |
| rejon | time to step it up | 16:18 |
| rejon | that is just beyond rude on their part they haven't prioritized our patches! | 16:18 |
| rejon | that is bad maintainership | 16:18 |
| rejon | i'll argue that one into the grave | 16:18 |
| rejon | plus, they said time to update releases on the trac to the community list, what are we....not in the community? | 16:19 |
| rejon | update as you see fit, but please don't bite me on there... | 16:20 |
| rejon | I want that olpc work out like months ago | 16:20 |
| rejon | greg-g: hear back from ahrash and your next thurs meeting? | 16:23 |
| rejon | paulproteus: want to join us for bugs and hacking in berkeley next thursday? | 16:23 |
| rejon | gonna hang out with victor | 16:23 |
| greg-g | rejon: the meeting between Ahrash, Garin, and I is now on Friday, so we're in the clear | 16:26 |
| paulproteus | Thu looks good probably. | 16:26 |
| greg-g | Ahrash had other meetings in the city on Thursday, so doing it in Berkeley wasn't possible. | 16:26 |
| paulproteus | rejon, If you ask me to commit to it, I'll say yes. | 16:26 |
| rejon | cool | 16:26 |
| rejon | please commit paulprotues | 16:27 |
| rejon | paulproteus | 16:27 |
| paulproteus | $ cal commit -a -m 'party with rejon and Victor Stone' | 16:27 |
| rejon | we can have fun hacking afternoon in berkeley... | 16:27 |
| paulproteus | For afternoon, I should probably do my "normal" CC work. | 16:27 |
| rejon | is that a real command? | 16:27 |
| paulproteus | Not ccHost stuff. | 16:27 |
| paulproteus | I wish. | 16:27 |
| paulproteus | In the dream of everything being git, it is. | 16:28 |
| rejon | what is *normal* cc work? keeping the engine running boring stuff? | 16:28 |
| paulproteus | Well, probably Herder, or stats data maintenance. | 16:28 |
| rejon | yah, paulproteus tim_hwang is going to be working on launching the metrics project | 16:29 |
| rejon | so, cool to have anything to tie in with that | 16:29 |
| paulproteus | Ankit will surely have some stuff toward the end of SoC. | 16:29 |
| rejon | cool, can do updated release then | 16:35 |
| rejon | i'm seriously considering just dropping olpc support now | 16:50 |
| rejon | I'm sick of them | 16:50 |
| rejon | lack of follow through | 16:50 |
| rejon | ok, I just had to say that....arg..... | 16:55 |
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| paulproteus | greg-g, http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/debian-lessons.html FYI | 17:00 |
| * greg-g looks | 17:04 | |
| greg-g | oh yeah, cool, thanks | 17:04 |
| rejon | cool, back to the basics | 17:05 |
| rejon | of having fun and developing | 17:05 |
| rejon | I feel like I'm corrupted now and this stuff is erased from my head | 17:05 |
| rejon | maybe because I'm not in the trenches committing patches | 17:07 |
| rejon | http://www.slideshare.net/rejon/pdwiki-mini-unconference-2008 | 17:09 |
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| greg-g | ooo, a cafe connection with 570 kB/s download speed | 17:27 |
| paulproteus | 100%[====================================>] 37,010,746 10.50M/s ETA 00:00 | 17:36 |
| paulproteus | Lousy machine must be behind 100Mbit. | 17:37 |
| rejon | greg-g: fire up the downloads | 17:37 |
| rejon | man, just found out I can get my house connection up to 16 Mbit | 17:37 |
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| greg-g | 5 minutes remaining | 17:42 |
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| rejon | oh yah, forgot to dl that brazilian movie | 17:49 |
| rejon | what was that called? | 17:49 |
| rejon | we should watch that on tuesday | 17:49 |
| greg-g | rejon: the one that Grace was talking about? | 17:50 |
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| jibot | rejon is a killer MC from staten island and is the 10th member of the wutang clan and http://www.rejon.org/ | 18:52 |
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| jibot | jgay is http://www.gnu.org/people/speakers.html#Gay | 18:57 |
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| jibot | veeliam is William Lawrence <http://zaxbypass.com> | 18:59 |
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| jibot | greg-g is "developing" the "community" for "creative commons" | 20:07 |
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| greg-g | ?forget greg-g is "developing the "community" for "creative commons" | 21:21 |
| jibot | I did not know greg-g was "developing the "community" for "creative commons" | 21:21 |
| greg-g | ?forget greg-g is "developing" the "community" for "creative commons" | 21:21 |
| jibot | I no longer know anything about greg-g | 21:21 |
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| paulproteus | *sniffle* | 23:21 |
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