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| rejon | greg-g: what about this one? http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/thehour.htm | 01:46 |
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| rejon | as you can tell, this is why I'm also into open source, amongst other things....serious OCD issues | 01:47 |
| * greg-g looks | 02:01 | |
| greg-g | oo, greasemonkey is back in FF3!! | 02:01 |
| rejon | yah, noticed and gears too | 02:04 |
| greg-g | rejon: that bike looks good too, I would put on a front brake for you since you haven't ridden a fixie before (right?) and it take a bit getting used to | 02:04 |
| rejon | yah...is there anything too the material of the bike? like chromalloy vs aluminum alloy vs peugot steel frame? | 02:05 |
| paulproteus | Steel is heavier, I should think. | 02:06 |
| greg-g | so, my current ranking is 1) Orange bike 2) Windsor, just because the orange is used and less likely to be stolen | 02:06 |
| * greg-g nods | 02:06 | |
| paulproteus | So why a fixie, exactly? | 02:06 |
| paulproteus | Also it's such Bad News that I'm awake right now. | 02:06 |
| greg-g | fixie == simplicity | 02:07 |
| greg-g | and, in my opinion, more fun to ride. Even though at first it is much harder | 02:07 |
| rejon | cool...yah, i want to have good bike... | 02:08 |
| greg-g | "much harder" meaning you have to learn not to try and coast and build up your leg muscles a little more | 02:08 |
| rejon | yah, that orange bike I'm sure is purchased now | 02:08 |
| rejon | yah, that sounds good | 02:08 |
| greg-g | the orange one was posted yesterday, that quick in SF? | 02:09 |
| greg-g | but, either way, both look good | 02:09 |
| rejon | man, I now know wayyyy tooo much about fixies | 02:10 |
| rejon | yah, for that type of bike | 02:10 |
| greg-g | well done :) way to dive in | 02:12 |
| greg-g | woah, I've never seen a ghost cog before (from the wikipedia article) | 02:14 |
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| greg-g | rejon: chromalloy v. aluminum : http://mountainbikingfansite.com/northern-california-mountain-biking.php | 02:18 |
| greg-g | short, sweet, and simple | 02:18 |
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| rejon | can't find on that page | 02:20 |
| rejon | orange one is still available...big drive though... | 02:20 |
| rejon | ;)\ | 02:20 |
| rejon | nearly to google | 02:20 |
| greg-g | lame, that sites' article changes randomly, if you want, reload unstil the title is "framing materials" | 02:23 |
| greg-g | "The Chromalloy steel material offers very good durability and a compliant ride characteristic." | 02:24 |
| greg-g | "Aluminum is stiffer than Chromalloy, and therefore it will crack before Chromalloy. Of course, this depends on how you ride and how much abuse you give the frame. The advantages of aluminum is that the frame is very light and very stiff through over sizing or butting." | 02:24 |
| rejon | whoa, these bikes are hot: http://www.swobo.com/bikes/collection/ | 02:32 |
| greg-g | yeah, there is some good bike porn out there | 02:37 |
| greg-g | ok, sleep | 02:42 |
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| isforinsects | paulproteus, when you get in, could you link me to your Flickr Scaping scripts? | 07:55 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, Okay, just a sec. | 07:55 |
| isforinsects | ... isn't it like 5AM in your tz? | 07:56 |
| paulproteus | (1) it's 6 AM | 07:56 |
| paulproteus | (2) I'm actually hanging out my parents' house in Rochester, NY, right now, so it's 9 anyway. | 07:56 |
| paulproteus | (3) Bonus points if you consider that me being awake at 9 is actually a remarkable thing in any time zone... | 07:57 |
| paulproteus | Anyway. (-: | 07:57 |
| paulproteus | svn co http://code.creativecommons.org/svnroot/autocurate/trunk/ | 07:57 |
| paulproteus | If you read Python, you'd do well to read the code as well as the READMEs and then come back to me, or alternately when you can't figure out "What is this SUPPOSED to do?!" feel free to ask. | 07:58 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, I suppose the world would love you if you write about some of this hacking on top of our code somewhere. | 08:02 |
| isforinsects | That I can do | 08:03 |
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| isforinsects | paulproteus, you're in NY!!!? | 08:57 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus, http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Grassroots_Jam : Sj, mel I and others are going to be in NY this weekend for an event. Any chance you might be able to come? | 08:58 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, Er, http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from:rochester,ny+to:ny,ny | 09:00 |
| paulproteus | Also, no, sadly I'll be driving the opposite direction to Ohio for a cousin's high school graduation party. | 09:00 |
| isforinsects | paulproteus, ha! my geography is very very bad for the east coast. | 09:01 |
| isforinsects | I've never had occasion to come out here before | 09:01 |
| paulproteus | Where are you normally? | 09:03 |
| paulproteus | Somehow I thought you were in Boston/Cambridge. | 09:03 |
| isforinsects | No no, I'm normally in seattle-ish area | 09:40 |
| isforinsects | I'm in Boston/Cambridge this summer | 09:40 |
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| paulproteus | isforinsects, Ah, but of course. | 09:46 |
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| e_s_p | Good morning! | 10:12 |
| e_s_p | Hey, is there a problem with i.creativecommons.org? | 10:12 |
| e_s_p | Seems like the server is refusing connections | 10:14 |
| e_s_p | It might just be from my network location... lemme check | 10:14 |
| e_s_p | Hmmm.... seems like a transitory hiccup | 10:17 |
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| e_s_p | I'm now getting hits again | 10:17 |
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| paulproteus | e_s_p, Howdy. | 10:43 |
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| paulproteus | e_s_p, Glad it's up. | 10:43 |
| e_s_p | paulproteus: me too | 10:44 |
| e_s_p | nathany: thanks for reassuring me that I'm not insane | 10:45 |
| nathany | e_s_p: sure | 10:46 |
| nathany | believe me, we're all about sanity here ;) | 10:46 |
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| e_s_p | It would be pretty fascinating to see some statistics on the i. server. I wonder if it's the most popular "badge" server in the world. | 10:48 |
| paulproteus | HAH! | 10:49 |
| paulproteus | nathany, We're all about *promoting* sanity, at least. | 10:49 |
| paulproteus | Whether or not we have it is a separate question. | 10:49 |
| nathany | true | 10:49 |
| paulproteus | HAH! re: "most popular 'badge' server" | 10:49 |
| nathany | promoting a non-decreasing amount of sanity? | 10:49 |
| * paulproteus nods. | 10:50 | |
| e_s_p | paulproteus: do you think that's untrue? | 10:50 |
| e_s_p | I don't think there's another popular badge where users aren't encouraged to download to their own servers | 10:51 |
| paulproteus | I'm not saying it's untrue - I would just be really impressed with ourselves! | 10:51 |
| paulproteus | It's like we colonized some 1998 ideal. | 10:51 |
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| paulproteus | And INFECTED it with COMMON SENSE RELATED TO COPYRIGHT. | 10:58 |
| paulproteus | YOW! | 10:58 |
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| paulproteus | Mornin', west coast. | 11:10 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: I'm going to run to Central Computers. I forgot about the fact that I'd need to convert the old Molex style power connector to the new SATA variety. | 12:17 |
| nathany | nkinkade: sounds good | 12:17 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, d'oh | 12:18 |
| nkinkade | Is that something that could handled with petty cash? | 12:18 |
| nathany | i think so -- ask ani/jenn? | 12:18 |
| nkinkade | Doh is exactly what I said when I went to install the disk. | 12:18 |
| nkinkade | Actually is was more like "F**K me!" but with the same meaning. | 12:19 |
| bovinity | ajbrooks: ping | 12:26 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, FWIW the drive ordering did change since Linux didn't create an "empty" /dev/sdX for the thing you took out. | 12:27 |
| paulproteus | No big deal at all; switching to UUIDs now anyway. | 12:27 |
| bovinity | ajbrooks: paulproteus: to learn-staging.cc! | 12:27 |
| paulproteus | egad! | 12:27 |
| paulproteus | All of a sudden, I feel staged! | 12:28 |
| ajbrooks | looks good | 12:28 |
| paulproteus | YAY! | 12:28 |
| paulproteus | bovinity, You have the legend backwards BTW. | 12:28 |
| bovinity | oops | 12:29 |
| bovinity | this is why we need legends after all.. | 12:29 |
| ajbrooks | I think we should have hamburgers and pizza slices instead of green and purple pins | 12:29 |
| paulproteus | I should have hamburgers and pizza slices. It's past lunchtime around here! | 12:29 |
| ajbrooks | haha | 12:30 |
| bovinity | fixerated | 12:30 |
| paulproteus | bovinity, Feel free to pass &center= to the mvs.html iframe if you like. | 12:30 |
| bovinity | would you prefer &? | 12:30 |
| paulproteus | (though I think it's fine as-is) | 12:30 |
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| paulproteus | Oh, I didn't notice you weren't properly escaping the arguments in your iframe tag! | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | At least, not XML-style proper escaping. | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | Should be "&" inside an attribute. | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | Which gets de-escaped into "&" before being used to create a URL that is requested. | 12:31 |
| paulproteus | (compare that to my index.html) | 12:31 |
| bovinity | ah. yes yes. my muscle memory hates change. | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | Does http://learn.creativecommons.org/opportunities-in-open-education/#OpenCourseWare%20Consortium%20Director%20of%20Marketing%20and%20Outreach mean the former MS guy quit? | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | I love how OE search has no icon. | 12:32 |
| paulproteus | 'Cause, like, if you need an icon, you can go look for it yourself, thank you very much. | 12:32 |
| bovinity | <jedi>these aren't the staging files you're looking for</jedi> | 12:33 |
| ajbrooks | mind tricks | 12:33 |
| * paulproteus allows these men to go about their business | 12:33 | |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Can you think of any good reason to not just leave the sciencecommons.org domain hosted at the registrar? | 13:22 |
| paulproteus | s/hosted/hosed/ | 13:22 |
| nathany | assuming we have the username/password to change it on demand, no reason i can think of | 13:22 |
| nkinkade | Yeah, we have the user/password, and leaving it there will also allow the SC folk to add subdomains whenever they like instead of having to request it through one of us. | 13:23 |
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| rejon | elite squad: http://btjunkie.org/torrent/Tropa-de-Elite-PROPER-Elite-Squad-2007-ENG-SUBS-EMBED/44327c1f340c80f77977fe957aeaa9b2a5dd0849d6eb | 14:33 |
| paulproteus | "Unless you want to learn Brazilian"... | 14:34 |
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| rejon | http://newlangtonarts.org/view_event.php?category=Gallery&archive=&&eventId=413 tonite | 16:02 |
| rejon | improv | 16:02 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: Are you getting your files from the backup machine? | 16:34 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Hi | 16:34 |
| paulproteus | I am right now. | 16:34 |
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| paulproteus | Er, it abruptly stopped. | 16:35 |
| nkinkade | How confident are you that that network card is good? | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | Uh-oh. (-: | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | 330 pages pagetables | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | Out of Memory: Kill process 2441 (sshd) score 4021 and children. | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | Out of memory: Killed process 2443 (rsync). | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | backup:/media/backups/asheesh# | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | I guess I'll do this over NFS then. | 16:35 |
| paulproteus | I have no particular reason to distrust it, but it's not the newest thing in the world. Why do you ask? | 16:36 |
| nkinkade | It's been working today, but sometime between when I setup the box and when I added the card yesterday it quit working. | 16:36 |
| paulproteus | What sort of "quit working"? | 16:36 |
| nkinkade | Oh, there's not much swap space on that machine. | 16:37 |
| nkinkade | Guess I should fix that up. | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | At the point where I'm using up that much swap I'd do better to just do the RAM-intensive stuff on my machine anyway. | 16:37 |
| nkinkade | It appeared that the NIC stopped working. The machine was on, but I couldn't reach it via the network, but a reboot cured it. | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | Should be a one-time thing. | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | ...curious re: NIC | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | Maybe syslog had something to say. | 16:37 |
| paulproteus | Maybe I stole its IP or something. | 16:37 |
| nkinkade | What were you doing that ate up all the memory and cause the machine to start killing processes? | 16:38 |
| paulproteus | rsync -aH to copy my backups off. | 16:38 |
| paulproteus | Tracking duplicate files via hard-links in rsync or cp is hugely RAM intensive. | 16:38 |
| paulproteus | The manuals even say so. | 16:39 |
| nkinkade | That's disappointing. I wonder if dirvish will have problems. | 16:39 |
| paulproteus | It won't - this is a different thing. | 16:39 |
| nkinkade | The -H. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | Doing what dirvish does is cheap. | 16:40 |
| nkinkade | Well the machine only has 250M of memory. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | I don't think it passes -H across the network. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | (Does it?) | 16:40 |
| nkinkade | I don't know. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | I think it doesn't - you can check. (-; | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | Its calculation is easier than a real hard-link check because when copying any file, it only has to check if the remote earlier version has the same hash. | 16:40 |
| paulproteus | It doesn't have to track all the inodes for all the files it can possibly ever see. | 16:41 |
| nkinkade | I guess the machine will only be useful for backups and for low-resource-consuming things. | 16:41 |
| nkinkade | Oh, paulproteus, quick question about the git submodules for mediawiki. | 16:44 |
| paulproteus | Ya | 16:44 |
| paulproteus | BTW hurry, I'm leaving for OH soon! | 16:44 |
| nkinkade | I added the submodules to the cc_skeleton branch, but did you say at some point that they should be added to master and then init'd in the cc_skeleton? | 16:45 |
| * paulproteus blinks | 16:45 | |
| paulproteus | No, you're doing it right. | 16:45 |
| paulproteus | If you get confused feel free to go through the GitSubmoduleTutorial. | 16:45 |
| nkinkade | Okay, good. I don't know why I thought you had said that. | 16:45 |
| paulproteus | I wasn't being super clear about what init means. | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | I've looked through a few tutorials. | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | I think I understand what init means now. | 16:46 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Perhaps the scarcity of RAM on the backup machine will hamper crawling for Nutch? Just mentioning it here so that it doesn't take you by surprise, but maybe it's not RAM intensive anyway. | 16:49 |
| nathany | good point | 16:50 |
| nathany | i haven't really thought it through yet | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | In any case there's over 100G free to play around with on /dev/hda1 | 16:50 |
| nkinkade | I mention it because paulproteus wasn't on logged into that machine for more than a few minutes before he got down to overwhelming it. :) | 16:51 |
| paulproteus | Heh! | 16:58 |
| nkinkade | Sorry. | 17:00 |
| nkinkade | Were you using NFS? :-) | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | ... | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | Did you reboot or something? | 17:00 |
| nkinkade | I though I had purged it all yesterday, and there it was suddenly installed and running again. | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | No, to overwhelm it I was using rsync. | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | Yes I just reinstalled it. | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | NFS is working right now it seems. | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | I'm going to leave for Ohio. | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | I hope you let my rsync finish, and then I'll leave your machine alone. (-: | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | I don't *intend* to totally destroy every machine I touch. | 17:02 |
| nkinkade | What are you using NFS for? | 17:02 |
| paulproteus | To copy the data over. | 17:02 |
| nkinkade | I was just kidding. | 17:02 |
| paulproteus | Since rsync on the machine doesn't have enough RAM to succeed. | 17:02 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:02 | |
| nkinkade | Feel free to use the machine to backup some critical stuff from your desktop if you like. | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | Thanks. (-: | 17:05 |
| paulproteus | Okay off to Ohio! | 17:05 |
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| ajbrooks | does wordpress have an extension to output blog entries to twitter? | 17:34 |
| rejon | guess the source: "What Bob Marley puts in his Open Access pipe - Smoke this, publishing industry!" | 17:40 |
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| ajbrooks | nie | 17:47 |
| ajbrooks | nice | 17:48 |
| ajbrooks | "feasting on knowledge like manna" | 17:48 |
| rejon | guess the source though! | 17:48 |
| ajbrooks | I cheated, I googled it | 17:48 |
| rejon | icommons | 18:03 |
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| Steren | arf nathany you quit... I had some nice results for you :) | 18:14 |
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| Steren | nkinkade: no tech meeting today ? | 18:41 |
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| nkinkade | Steren: Not today. nathany already left. | 18:49 |
| nkinkade | But we can talk if there is something you wanted to go over. | 18:49 |
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| NeoRiddle | hola! he estado intentando dejar una obra bajo esta licencia y pero no se he terminado el proceso ¿alguien podria ayudarme? ¡saludos! | 19:15 |
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| NeoRiddle | hola! he estado intentando dejar una obra bajo esta licencia y pero no se he terminado el proceso ¿alguien podria ayudarme? ¡saludos! | 19:33 |
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| nkinkade | Hola NeoRiddle. | 20:24 |
| nkinkade | No creo que entienda su pregunta el 100%. | 20:25 |
| NeoRiddle | hola nkinkade! | 20:25 |
| NeoRiddle | si mira, te explico! | 20:25 |
| nkinkade | Has visitado este enlace: http://creativecommons.org/license/?lang=es? | 20:26 |
| NeoRiddle | ok mi problema es el siguiente, estoy haciendo un aplicacion web, la cual pienso liberar bajo una licencia CC, ahi en la pagina de CC dice que hay que agregar un poco de codigo para que dentro de la pagina se incluya los datos de la licencia, pero no se si con poner ese codigo ya esta concluido el proceso de registrar el trabajo. | 20:27 |
| nkinkade | Antes que nada, sabías que no recomendamos que se utilicen las licencias CC con software? | 20:29 |
| NeoRiddle | mmm, no, ¿porque la recomentacion? | 20:29 |
| NeoRiddle | "recomendacion" | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | Es que ya hay un montón de licencias escritas especificamente por software. | 20:29 |
| nkinkade | Por ejemplo el GPL, MIT, BSD, etc. | 20:30 |
| NeoRiddle | ok, bueno imaginemos que no es software! | 20:30 |
| NeoRiddle | suggpongamos que quiero registrar un texto: mi proyecto de tesis por ejemplo! | 20:30 |
| nkinkade | No creemos que las licencias CC sean adecuadas para software. | 20:30 |
| nkinkade | Texto si. | 20:30 |
| NeoRiddle | ok | 20:30 |
| NeoRiddle | imaginemos que es el texto | 20:30 |
| nkinkade | Tengo un FAQ respecto a software pero no creo se haya traducido a español. | 20:31 |
| nkinkade | No es decir que no puedas usar una licencia CC para software, solo que no lo recomendamos. | 20:31 |
| NeoRiddle | si quiero registrar mi texto de proyecto de tesis y ya elegi que licencia a usar, donde registro mi trabajo? | 20:32 |
| nkinkade | http://es.creativecommons.org/proyecto/faq.php#faq_entrada_1005 | 20:33 |
| nkinkade | Ah. Lo que pasa es que no hay registrar una obra. Solo hay que seleccionar una licencia y despues marcar su obra de alguna manera. | 20:34 |
| NeoRiddle | ok, y eso garantiza que ya esta mi obra protegida por la licencia CC? | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | Si vas a publicar tu obra en el Internet puedes utilizar esta herramienta: http://creativecommons.org/license/?lang=es | 20:35 |
| nkinkade | Despues de llenar ese formulario se te presentará un poco de HTML que puedes introducir en la pagina donde se encuentre la obra. | 20:36 |
| nkinkade | No mantenemos ningun tipo de registro. | 20:36 |
| NeoRiddle | y con eso basta para que mi obra este protegida por la licencia CC? | 20:36 |
| NeoRiddle | ¿que pasa y otra persona trata de reclamar mi obra alegando la autoria de este? ¿como me protege CC ene sos casos? | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | Sí. Es que siendo el autor de la obra ya tienes todos los derechos con ella y puedes librarlo si quieres. | 20:37 |
| nkinkade | Bueno, en este caso solo puedes hacer lo mismo si no hubieras puesto la obra bajo una licencia CC: 1) comunicarte con la persona y tratar de solucionar el problema de forma agradable 2) Hablar con un abogado | 20:39 |
| nkinkade | Sí me explico? | 20:40 |
| nkinkade | De donde eres? | 20:40 |
| NeoRiddle | de mexico | 20:43 |
| NeoRiddle | si entiendo | 20:43 |
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| nkinkade | CC Mexico tiene un sitio ... lo has visto? | 20:44 |
| nkinkade | http://creativecommons.org.mx/ | 20:45 |
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| NeoRiddle | si de ehcho si, solo que me nacio la duda que si se tenia que realizar un registro como lo que pasa con las licencias de musica o letras por ejemplo y que habia una institucion para llegar ese registro | 20:47 |
| nkinkade | Entre los que usan las licencias CC y CC no hay vinculo alguno .. por ejemplo puedes leer la casilla en la parte inferior de esta licencia: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/mx/legalcode | 20:47 |
| NeoRiddle | ok gracias | 20:48 |
| NeoRiddle | revisare mas, muchas gracias | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | De nada. Gracias por el interes en CC. | 20:48 |
| NeoRiddle | a ti gracias por el soporte! | 20:48 |
| nkinkade | Durante la semana casi siempre estoy en #cc durante el dia (PDT) | 20:49 |
| NeoRiddle | ok gracias | 21:06 |
| NeoRiddle | tu de donde eres? | 21:06 |
| NeoRiddle | por eso de los husos horario! | 21:07 |
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| nkinkade | NeoRiddle: Soy de los EEUU. Nací en Atlanta, GA, pero ya vivo en San Franciso. | 21:14 |
| NeoRiddle | ahh ok, entonces ya que a que horas para ti "es de dia" :D | 21:14 |
| NeoRiddle | gracias | 21:14 |
| nkinkade | Son las 7:15PM. | 21:16 |
| NeoRiddle | aqui 2 horas mas tarde | 21:16 |
| nkinkade | Normalmente no estoy aqui a estas horas, pero estamos colgando unas fotos para que se vea bonita la oficina. :-) | 21:17 |
| NeoRiddle | ok de cualquier manrea gracias, y suerte alla en la oficina! | 21:18 |
| nkinkade | Ok. Igual. Que tenga un buen fin de semana. | 21:18 |
| NeoRiddle | gracias | 21:18 |
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