Wednesday, 2008-05-14

javoim asking this because the nc clausule, and sponsors of the radio stations.. any idea?00:00
javosorry im not gorgeous speaking in english00:00
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isforinsectsjavo from what I understand about radio stations boils down to two areas00:08
isforinsectsIf they have 'call to action' commercials, then they are for-profit00:08
isforinsectsIf they have 'sponsored by' commercials, they are non-profit.00:09
javothanks isforinsects. i think i understood it.00:10
isforinsectsI am just a guy. not a lawyer or even affiliated with creative commons btw.00:11
javookay!00:11
isforinsectsCommercial radio stations can't use -nc00:11
javoi just asked for curiosity00:11
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javoi think is hard to control if a radio station plays your -nc music. Don't you think ?00:13
javoand hard to proof too00:14
javoand hard to prove too00:14
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jgayis there a cclearn channel?07:19
isforinsectsdoesn't appear to be at #cclearn07:19
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troubadorHi! I have a quick question about the share-alike license. If I use a share-alike photo in a copyrighted book, does this mean the whole book needs to be under that license, or just the photo? (Sorry if this is in a FAQ somewhere.)09:32
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tvolhi troubador -- some info here09:38
tvolhttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#If_I_use_a_Creative_Commons-licensed_work_with_other_works.2C_do_I_have_to_Creative_Commons_license_everything_else_as_well.3F09:38
troubadortvol: thanks! I'll take a look.09:38
troubador[blush] It was in the FAQ.09:40
tvolhey troubador no problem--the FAQ is a bit long ;)09:40
troubadorYeah. :)09:40
troubadorNow I am looking to see how a "collection" is defined. In my case, I am putting together a calendar, which includes many photos. I'd like to include this photo...so it seems this would be a collection. However, I do have to scale the photo down and make it black and white, so does that make this a "derivative work" and thus not a collection?09:42
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paulproteusI can't dial for my life.10:02
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troubadorThanks again.10:31
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paulproteusbash-3.2# passwd paulproteus11:22
paulproteusbash: passwd: command not found11:22
paulproteusI guess that's a bare-bones setup.11:22
paulproteusbash-3.2# yum install passwd11:22
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paulproteuspaulproteus@10.0.2.111's password:11:24
paulproteusConnection closed by UNKNOWN11:24
paulproteusThat makes me feel great.11:24
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nathanypaulproteus: just curious, what template engine did you wind up adopting for Herder?12:14
paulproteusStill using Mako for now.12:15
paulproteusI haven't had a good reason to change it.12:15
nathanyah, ok12:15
paulproteusi.e., I haven't done much work involving templates, so its presence hasn't been high-pain (if it ever will be, I suppose).12:15
paulproteusI still like Kid.12:16
paulproteusMostly for its radical stance on XML correctness.12:16
nathanypaulproteus: is LD_LIBRARYPATH the environment variable you set to control how executables find libraries?12:29
nathanydo you know off the top of your head?12:30
nathanyalso, just to be petulant, I'll point out that ZPT is the original radically-xml-correct template language?12:30
nathanyer, no question mark12:30
nathanyack12:30
paulproteusLD_LIBRARY_PATH12:30
nathanythanks12:30
paulproteusAlso, okay! re: ZPT12:30
paulproteusIt doesn't have as nice an (old) domain name as lesscode.org.12:31
nathany:)12:31
paulproteusKid is so cool, it's *left* domains cooler than any ZPT ever had!12:35
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nathanypaulproteus: does git not have the equivalent of "svn cp"?13:19
nathany(maybe it just notices that things are copies?)13:19
paulproteusIt just notices.13:19
nkinkadeI'm upgrading openssl on the servers, so don't be alarmed when you get a warning that the host key changed.  Once I get them all upgraded I'll give everyone the fingerprints of the new ones just in case you want to check.13:22
paulproteusnkinkade, BTW, read the DSA for openssh.13:23
paulproteushttp://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-157613:24
paulproteusAnd probably I hope you've read that wiki.d.o page.13:24
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nkinkadenathany: Romanian licenses?14:06
nathanyah, thanks for the reping14:07
nathanyi'll forward now14:07
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paulproteusToys at http://metasploit.com/users/hdm/tools/debian-openssl/ .16:49
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paulproteusBovinity, Happen to know autotools well?17:25
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bsei know my way around it17:27
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