Wednesday, 2008-02-27

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Riegerhi10:03
Rieger:)10:03
Riegerim doing a dissertation final year project on Piracy and DRM10:12
Riegerand would find any help from here incredibly useful10:12
nathanyhi reiger, anything in particular you're looking for help with?10:20
nathanyRieger: ^^10:20
Riegerwell10:20
Riegeris there an email I can send my questionnaire too for the CC?10:20
Riegeralso can you recommend organisations both pro and anti that I may have not had contact with yet?10:21
Riegermost big companies such as warner and lobbies like the MPAA just do not have bloody emails >_<10:21
nathanyyou can send your questionnaire to info@creativecommons.org10:21
Riegerty10:21
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nathanywe get tons of questions in there, so can't promise an immediate turn around10:22
nathanywrt organizations, have you contacted other "free culture" orgs, like freeculture.org, the EFF, etc?10:22
Riegerthats fine10:22
Riegerive emailed freeculture10:22
RiegerEFF...?10:22
nathanyhttp://eff.org10:23
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paulproteusnathany, I will be ca. 15m late for our meeting I think.11:34
nathanypaulproteus: np11:34
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cruwhello.12:16
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cruwi made a licence. but now I wanna choose another licence type, is it possible to do that, now?12:17
nathanycruw: sure, just choose something different at http://creativecommons.org/license12:18
nathanynote that if you've distributed your work under the old license then people who received it will still be covered by the old license12:18
cruwit is ok nathany.12:18
cruwso now i just have to do a new licence?12:19
nathanyyes12:19
cruwgreat, thank you.12:19
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cruwanother question, what if in my website I have many songs?12:21
cruwdo I have to put the logo licence of all the songs?12:21
nathanydo they have different licenses?12:21
cruwno12:22
cruwjust different attributes.12:22
cruwlike the name.12:22
nathanyso the minimal thing to do is include the license notice once and state that it applies to all songs12:23
nathanyyou can mark up your HTML with RDFa further if you want to, but its not required12:23
cruwok, thank you nathany12:24
nathanynp12:24
cruwwhat is used RDFa for?12:25
nathanyit allows you to make your HTML machine readable, so that software can figure out that certain parts are the title, etc12:26
cruwhmmm...I have a logo and a phrase that tells: songname- my name-, and licence type.12:29
cruwas I told you, I have more than one song.12:29
cruwhow can i arrange that?12:29
nathanyso you'd do something like:12:29
nathany<div xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/terms/" about="http://url/to/song/1"><span rel="dc:title">Songname</span>- <span rel="dc:creator">myname</span>- <a href="http://license_uri" rel="license">CC License ...</a>.</div>12:31
nathanyfor each song12:31
nathanypaulproteus: 5 min?12:31
paulproteusnathany, Sounds great.12:31
paulproteusI'll take a 5m nap. (-;12:32
nathanypaulproteus: sleep 5*6012:32
paulproteussleep 5m12:32
paulproteus; banshee --play12:32
paulproteusThat's my snooze button.12:32
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Bovinitynkinkade: shouldn't the flags show up on the planet.cc international page?12:52
Bovinityor, alternatively, is there a reason tehy don't?12:53
nkinkadewhich international page?  /jurisdictions/?12:54
Bovinitymaybe it's my fault for not including that in the theme layout..12:54
Bovinityyeah12:54
nkinkadehmm.  now that i think about it.  i'm not sure i've ever seen them there, but the flag would be nice, right?12:55
Bovinityright12:55
nkinkadedo you want to do it, or me?12:56
nkinkadewait, maybe is screwed the flags when I added the flag_code thing to deal with Catalonia.12:56
nkinkadeI must have.  Let me look at it.12:56
nkinkadeBovinity: Yeah, the problem was me.  I fixed it.12:59
Bovinityaha12:59
nkinkadeit's much prettier now.13:05
Bovinityquite13:05
Bovinityhmm13:05
nkinkadeIs that "hmm" a sigh of relief or an interrogative?13:07
Bovinityconsidering giving the CC blog a cc logo hackergotchi.13:08
CIA-3fourstones * r9184 /cchost/trunk/cchost_lib/ccextras/cc-export-settings.inc: reading configs was broken13:46
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CIA-3bse * r9185 /planet/branches/production/software/themes/cc/ (index.html.tmpl style.css): support planet cc title graphic14:16
CIA-3bse * r9186 /planet/branches/production/www/images/ (planet-title-8.png planet-title.png): planet cc title graphic14:18
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nkinkadeBovinity: there are no restrictions on using CC logos in other media are there?16:09
Bovinitynkinkade: nope16:09
nkinkadeI'm communicating with a person via info@CC.org and I pointed them to /policies, but they are still asking.16:10
nkinkadeThey asked "If I want to use Creative Commons logos and buttons in a video, who do I have to ask permission for?"16:10
Bovinity...16:10
nkinkadeAre there any restrictions at all for that kind of use ... or might it depend or be possible to violate the policies?16:10
Bovinitypoint htem to wiki.creativecommons.org/Marking_Video for the video marking documentation16:11
Bovinitysomeone came into irc the other day asking the same thin16:11
nkinkadeI'm just going to reply that as long as they don't violate any of the policies then it's okay.16:11
Bovinitycorrect16:11
nkinkadeBut in this case I think it's not about licensing a video using CC, but using the CC logo and buttons as part of some video they are making.16:11
Bovinitymaybe i should join this info@ list... sign away my soul and everything.16:12
Bovinityoh, using them as elements, not as licensing... hmm16:12
nkinkadeexactly, or at least that is my impression.16:13
Bovinityi'm fairly sure the button art is CC-BY16:13
nkinkadeeverything at /presskit seems to be BY, or at least the page says so.16:13
nkinkadeSo I guess that means they'd have to give attribution.16:14
nkinkadeIn which case I'll point them to the Marking_Video page.16:14
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nkinkadeBovinity: did you see the email about the paypal issue at the store?16:46
Bovinityno16:46
CIA-3bse * r9188 /planet/branches/production/software/themes/cc/style.css: Forgot to update the width of the new title logo. Oops.16:48
nkinkadeto webmaster.  i was about to look into it, but maybe you know more about the store???16:48
Bovinityi don't see it.. who sent it?16:49
Bovinitymaybe my spam filter ate it.16:49
Bovinityah, nevermind.16:50
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CIA-3fourstones * r9189 /cchost/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): content admin was broken on new installs17:31
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paulproteusrejon, I may be making Joi's Lab's Internet slow for you.19:35
paulproteusOr, I might not be.19:35
rejonpaulproteus: all is well, I haven't used it much19:39
rejonabout to head to airport too19:39
paulproteusI'm pulling down FreeBSD ISOs at 16 megabytes per second.19:39
paulproteusOh, I forgot it's already tomorrow there!19:40
paulproteusI get the feeling this swarm doesn't really need me.19:40
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CIA-3nyergler * r9190 /i18nedit/ (tags/zope3-skeleton-20080227/ trunk/): Moving the skeletal trunk out of the way to import a new, more-functional version.20:08
CIA-3nyergler * r9191 /i18nedit/trunk/: Creating new trunk.20:09
CIA-3nyergler * r9192 /i18nedit/trunk/ (60 files in 16 dirs): Initial import of the Tower translation system.20:11
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CIA-3paulproteus * r9193 /liblicense/trunk/ (9 files in 2 dirs): Adding PREDICATE_ANY and placeholder values for current io modules20:43
CIA-3paulproteus * r9194 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/module_wrangler.c: Now without conflicting types20:43
CIA-3paulproteus * r9195 /liblicense/trunk/ (10 files in 2 dirs): Nearly compiles20:43
CIA-3paulproteus * r9196 /liblicense/trunk/modules/io/ (Makefile.am taglib.cpp): Trying to make it compile again20:43
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CIA-3fourstones * r9197 /cchost/trunk/cchost_lib/ (cc-config.php cc-skin-admin.php ccextras/cc-content-page.inc): fixing more new-install bugs21:08
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CIA-3paulproteus * r9199 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/licenses_cached.c: Static what should be static22:24
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CIA-3paulproteus * r9201 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/licenses_cached.c: Initialize pointers to NULL, not zero (geez)22:32
CIA-3paulproteus * r9202 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/license_info.c: 0 is still not a pointer22:39
CIA-3paulproteus * r9203 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/license_info.c: Static what is not needed to be public23:23
CIA-3paulproteus * r9204 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/licenses_cached.c: Static what is not needed to be public!23:23
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CIA-3paulproteus * r9206 /liblicense/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): () -> void; see http://pine.cs.yale.edu/pinewiki/C/Functions23:23
CIA-3paulproteus * r9207 /liblicense/trunk/liblicense/license_print_info.c: Venkatesh points out this terrible typing23:25
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