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| _ke | to reference a work, e.g. a picture on my website, i do need to post the name of the author, the url where i got the picture and the cc licence. is that enough? | 05:55 |
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| nathany | paulproteus: SYN | 10:23 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, ACK | 10:35 |
| nathany | i was feeling frustrated that i couldn't find a list of callbacks for pyblosxom... found it in the 1.3 docs, still not loving their technical documentation :) | 10:36 |
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| nathany | so, er, nevermind :) | 10:36 |
| paulproteus | What's up? | 10:37 |
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| nathany | paulproteus ^^ | 10:37 |
| nathany | paulproteus: i was feeling slightly resistant to the one file, one directory approach | 10:37 |
| nathany | thought maybe i could just write a quick plugin to do what i wanted | 10:37 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Ah, okay. (-: | 10:38 |
| nathany | (ie, supress rendering of index pages | 10:38 |
| nathany | ) | 10:38 |
| paulproteus | Mmm, suppression. | 10:39 |
| nathany | i swear i had a plugin to do that at one point in my life | 10:39 |
| paulproteus | My favorite kind of pression. | 10:39 |
| nathany | lol | 10:40 |
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| paulproteus | Today is a sad day. | 11:23 |
| paulproteus | cthuugle.com seems to have gone dark. | 11:23 |
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| paulproteus | Hooray, it's fixed! | 12:16 |
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| CIA-36 | paulproteus * r9150 /autocurate/trunk/LICENSE: for Fedora | 14:04 |
| paulproteus | Apparently some Fedora people want to package the autocurate scripts. | 14:22 |
| isforinsects_ | Oh? | 14:24 |
| isforinsects_ | Neat | 14:24 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, that's why I just added a license. (-: | 14:24 |
| paulproteus | Bovinity, nathany, you've already had lunch? | 14:26 |
| paulproteus | I could bring you a $2.75 sandwich from http://www.yelp.com/biz/saigon-sandwiches-san-francisco#hrid:FiWjShkJmxMQFdj7JKXDYw/query:banh%20mi otherwise. | 14:26 |
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| Bovinity | http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/wordpress_flickr_creative_commons.php | 16:05 |
| paulproteus | Super rad. | 16:06 |
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| isforinsects_ | Oh nice! | 16:12 |
| paulproteus | Reminds me of autocurate, but cooler. | 16:15 |
| nkinkade | nathany: did you by any change run a crawl on a8 yesterday afternoon? | 16:25 |
| nathany | nope | 16:25 |
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| CIA-36 | paulproteus * r9151 /autocurate/trunk/flickrmonkey.py: one more lousy piece of XML hackery | 16:41 |
| isforinsects_ | w00t Go flickr monkey | 16:42 |
| nkinkade | paulproteus: did you set reset wshaper to it's original state? | 16:45 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, Not yet, I'm still using bandwidth, but it's not as urgent, so you can now. | 16:45 |
| paulproteus | Or you can tell me to. | 16:45 |
| nkinkade | I'd rather since you did it that you also undo it. | 16:46 |
| nkinkade | and that goes not just for this, but for anything that may fit this scheme in the future :) | 16:46 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 16:46 |
| paulproteus | There, restated wshaper with normal settings. | 16:47 |
| nkinkade | well, if you still needed it, then you can leave it, but i forsaw degrated network performance for months only to realize later that wshaper hadn't been reset. :) | 16:49 |
| nkinkade | how did that T get in there. | 16:49 |
| paulproteus | cheese grater network performance | 16:49 |
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| CIA-36 | paulproteus * r9152 /autocurate/trunk/flickrmonkey.py: Now with no infinite recursion | 16:51 |
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| paulproteus | Howdy skvidal. | 16:55 |
| paulproteus | It would be a little sad if Conduit had fixed all the bugs that my flickrmonkey works around. | 16:56 |
| skvidal | but somehow rewarding if you didn't have to keep maintaining it :) | 16:56 |
| paulproteus | I guess. I admit to loving monkey patching. | 16:56 |
| skvidal | ook | 16:56 |
| paulproteus | It would feel rewarding in a few weeks or months, when I forgot I wrote it and that was suddenly okay. | 16:57 |
| skvidal | okay - dumb questions | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | Sure. | 16:57 |
| skvidal | have y'all already done the integration bits with gnome to make this set of interesting pictures be screensavers or backdrops changed frequently? | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | Those are the best kind, especially when publicly logged. | 16:57 |
| paulproteus | skvidal, heck no. | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | Nothing at all. That's a cute idea. | 16:58 |
| skvidal | okay so in the stock fedora | 16:58 |
| skvidal | the background changes per hour | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | Between what? | 16:58 |
| Bovinity | that sounds annoying | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | BTW, "interesting" doesn't mean "safe for work", fwiw. | 16:58 |
| skvidal | it changes slightly in tone | 16:58 |
| skvidal | to reflect the hour of the day | 16:58 |
| paulproteus | I mean, there aren't like people having sex. | 16:58 |
| Bovinity | there are one or two nsfw, i noticed | 16:59 |
| skvidal | so the background gets darker as the night comes on | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | s/darker/more nsfw/ | 16:59 |
| skvidal | :) | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | skvidal, That's kinda neat. | 16:59 |
| skvidal | paulproteus: watch it for a while - it's fairly cool to see | 16:59 |
| paulproteus | skvidal, I'd be pretty happy if there were an option to autocurate from Flickr and those were cycled between, or something. | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | This thing could easily be a cron job. | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | Oh, Flickr API keys? | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | I don't remember if one needs those. | 17:00 |
| skvidal | well, getting the flickr api key is pretty easy | 17:00 |
| skvidal | have you seen how postr does it for uploading? | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | Well, you'd have to have a flickr.com account. | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | No, I haven't re: postr | 17:00 |
| paulproteus | Also, one could imagine a Fedora Flickr API key that's known to be used for just this, and Flickr being fine with that. | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | Or we could just screen scrape them. | 17:01 |
| isforinsects_ | scrape and send to a gallery2 install somewhere | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | This would be coolest if it worked totally unattended. | 17:01 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects_, Heck, they're CC-licensed photos; we could put them anywhere! (-: | 17:02 |
| skvidal | I wonder if it can work by just rss feed | 17:02 |
| * skvidal goes to bug gnome people | 17:02 | |
| isforinsects_ | paulproteus: hrrm. I think I just found some seo bait.... brb | 17:02 |
| paulproteus | http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/7days/ + a few reloads | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | e.g. http://www.flickr.com/explore/interesting/ for nsfw | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | Not *extremely* nsfw | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | I mean, it's on my screen. | 17:03 |
| Bovinity | zomg, it could be on someones kids screen too! | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | It could be on *her* kid's screen! | 17:06 |
| paulproteus | skvidal, So far so good? w/ Conduit's FlickrAPI? | 17:12 |
| paulproteus | (and no monkey) | 17:12 |
| skvidal | flickr.py: success! | 17:13 |
| paulproteus | skvidal, Cool! | 17:13 |
| paulproteus | skvidal, I'm also curious what happens if you add flickrmonkey now. | 17:13 |
| skvidal | I'll check in a bit | 17:13 |
| skvidal | walking the pup now | 17:13 |
| isforinsects_ | paulproteus: sounds like sj's curation system is needed :P | 17:14 |
| * paulproteus nods | 17:14 | |
| skvidal | for the record | 17:15 |
| skvidal | the photos are great | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | skvidal, (-: | 17:15 |
| paulproteus | Yeah, the set that got burned was pretty good too I think. | 17:15 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9153 /planet/trunk/ (11 files in 10 dirs): Added category filter and also set lots of svn:ignores | 17:17 |
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| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9155 /planet/trunk/config/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Differentiate between local configs and productions configs | 17:32 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9156 /planet/branches/production/: Copy trunk to branches/production | 17:33 |
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| paulproteus | nathany, exempi doesn't support file descriptors, only filenames, and since they're our star backend, let's abandon that cool idea for now. | 17:41 |
| nathany | paulproteus: sounds sane | 17:41 |
| paulproteus | Sadly. If only everything were everything. | 17:42 |
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| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9157 /planet/trunk/config/community/config: Fixed incorrect output dir for community planet | 17:58 |
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| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9158 /planet/branches/production/: Initialize svnmerge on branches/production | 18:00 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9159 /planet/branches/production/ (. config/community/config): | 18:01 |
| CIA-36 | Merged revisions 9157 via svnmerge from | 18:01 |
| CIA-36 | https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/planet/trunk | 18:01 |
| CIA-36 | ........ | 18:01 |
| CIA-36 | r9157 | nkinkade | 2008-02-22 15:58:03 -0800 (Fri, 22 Feb 2008) | 1 line | 18:01 |
| CIA-36 | Fixed incorrect output dir for community planet | 18:01 |
| CIA-36 | ........ | 18:01 |
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| nkinkade | paulproteus: what were those symlink in planet for www -> . | 18:16 |
| nkinkade | i don't think it's necessary any more??? | 18:16 |
| paulproteus | I think you're right. | 18:16 |
| paulproteus | I think I had misconfigured the configuration files. | 18:16 |
| nkinkade | i'm going to remove them. | 18:16 |
| paulproteus | Good riddance to bad rubbish.l | 18:16 |
| paulproteus | Like that "l" sitting there. | 18:16 |
| nkinkade | and to self referencing symlinks that make find complain. | 18:17 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9160 /planet/trunk/ (config/root/ www/community/ www/jurisdictions/): More removal of unsightly trash via svn:ingore | 18:18 |
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| Viper550 | Hello? | 18:24 |
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| paulproteus | Hi. | 18:24 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9161 /planet/trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs): Heck. Just ignore all output in the respective www dirs | 18:27 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9162 /planet/branches/production/ (5 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed) | 18:28 |
| CIA-36 | Merged revisions 9160-9161 via svnmerge from | 18:28 |
| CIA-36 | https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/planet/trunk | 18:28 |
| CIA-36 | ........ | 18:28 |
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| CIA-36 | More removal of unsightly trash via svn:ingore | 18:28 |
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| Viper550 | hello again | 18:37 |
| paulproteus | Hi again. | 18:37 |
| Viper550 | I actually got a very neat idea, something which would especially in America, truly put Creative Commons material in the spotlight | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | Well, go ahead! | 18:38 |
| paulproteus | (Although you may find a larger community of people to discuss your idea on the cc-community list.) | 18:39 |
| Viper550 | But anyway, before I propose anything to the list: | 18:39 |
| * isforinsects_ is listening too | 18:39 | |
| Viper550 | In the US, there is a special radio band called "Non-commercial educational" | 18:39 |
| * paulproteus reads http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-commercial_educational | 18:40 | |
| Viper550 | a reserved band for non-profit radio stations which do not accept or air advertising | 18:40 |
| Viper550 | But even better, is that you don't have to pay licence fees from the FCC. | 18:40 |
| Viper550 | Now: here's the twist: | 18:41 |
| Viper550 | Most Creative Commons licences as used by musicians, usually mostly use the Non-Commercial and/or Attribution clauses. | 18:41 |
| Viper550 | So, if we could have a radio station somewhere in America, which under some sort of brand (like maybe "Freedom FM 89.1" or something) broadcasted only Creative Commons licensed material AND no commercials (being able to gloat about how much music per hour you play) | 18:44 |
| paulproteus | Hah! | 18:44 |
| paulproteus | I'd like to even just see a Radio Paradise -> airwaves bridge. | 18:44 |
| paulproteus | But yeah, I agree that it would be cool to get people to run full-power CC music stations! | 18:45 |
| Viper550 | So, we could not only fufill the terms of their licences, BUT give them the dream of a lifetime: being played ON a real radio station. | 18:45 |
| Viper550 | and would being played on a non-profit radio station be considered commercial usage where the CC is concerned? | 18:47 |
| paulproteus | It sounds like it would be pretty clearly non-commercial usage. | 18:47 |
| Viper550 | there. so we could totally play ANY CC licenced music track. | 18:48 |
| Viper550 | and Chocolate Rain. Every other hour. On the hour. | 18:49 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9163 /planet/trunk/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Change wording of the CC community planet description | 18:54 |
| paulproteus | You'd need people in each locale to run the station and get the licenses, I guess. | 18:55 |
| CIA-36 | nkinkade * r9164 /planet/branches/production/ (4 files in 4 dirs): | 18:55 |
| CIA-36 | Merged revisions 9163 via svnmerge from | 18:55 |
| CIA-36 | https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/planet/trunk | 18:55 |
| CIA-36 | ........ | 18:55 |
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| CIA-36 | Change wording of the CC community planet description | 18:55 |
| CIA-36 | ........ | 18:55 |
| Viper550 | Of course you'd need to still have staff and such, and a transmitter, and equipment. But in most cases, if they require attribution, in the olden days many radio stations "attributed" every song after it was played | 18:57 |
| Viper550 | theoretically, would it work? | 19:03 |
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| montagg | So, I'm a guy running a business. I want to make a commercial, and I want to use some cool music. I've found some CC music that's nice, but it's BY-SA, meaning I'd have to license my commercial CC BY-SA. What are some of the advantages of licensing my commercial BY-SA, and why should I pick CC instead of some royalty free music? | 20:00 |
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