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| tehnik | If I call a procedure creating threads (the threads are joinable) will the threads be terminated when the procedure finishes? | 07:49 |
| h1web | shouldn't | 08:12 |
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| tehnik | hm. I need some experiments then. Coz at the time being if exit at once from the procedure, the threads are killed. If I put "sleep(big number)" before leaving the procedure, everything is OK | 08:21 |
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| h1web | well does the process terminate, after the process exits? | 08:23 |
| tehnik | the process doesn't . | 08:23 |
| h1web | weird then | 08:23 |
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| tehnik | I mean it's a daemon. It should not exit under normal circumstancies. | 08:24 |
| tehnik | if the procedure finishes, the thread(s) recieve(s) sigterm | 08:25 |
| tehnik | when I come home, I'll write some tests to be sure | 08:26 |
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| tvol | hey bovinity did you do that new cc informational flyer...the one with the bubbles and the brown? | 12:55 |
| Bovinity | yes | 12:55 |
| tvol | nice one, looks rad | 12:56 |
| isforinsects | tvol: searchable on CC-wiki? | 12:56 |
| tvol | yah on http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Documentation | 12:57 |
| Bovinity | the new flyer will go up on the wiki once it's 100% approved | 12:57 |
| isforinsects | Nice flyer http://wiki.creativecommons.org/images/2/28/Info-flyer-final.pdf | 13:00 |
| Bovinity | oh. it's up. who did that? | 13:00 |
| Bovinity | wtf | 13:00 |
| Bovinity | cos, that's not the final final one | 13:00 |
| tvol | bovinity i did. | 13:01 |
| tvol | sorry will remove | 13:01 |
| Bovinity | final final has a license ;) | 13:01 |
| tvol | ahh yes | 13:01 |
| Bovinity | nkinkade: file a bug for the captcha? | 13:04 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | wooh nice channel! i work at a restaurant and we are subject to paying ASCAP and BMI because we have CD players in the restaurant and we provide a venue for bands to come and play... ASCAP and BMI both want to be re-imbursed for us to play music on our cd players and if artists come to play cover songs at our venue. | 13:04 |
| nkinkade | Bovinity: The problem seems to be related to caching. | 13:04 |
| Bovinity | maybe we can load it up on a separate wordpress install, off site.. see if it's a problem with us | 13:04 |
| isforinsects | I | 13:04 |
| isforinsects | 'll pretend I never saw it | 13:05 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | is there a feasible way to never ever ever play BMI/ASCAP music? | 13:05 |
| nkinkade | I'm going to check the headers in a moment to see what they have to say in all this. | 13:05 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | have somethign that is 100% CC music? | 13:05 |
| Bovinity | AndyGraybeal_: see ccmixter.org | 13:05 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | th ank you Bovinity | 13:05 |
| Bovinity | also jamendo and magnatune | 13:06 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | ah thank you Bovinity | 13:07 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | do you think that BMI and ASCAP would get off our backs if we only played 100% CC music? | 13:07 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | does anyone know how that would work or where i would inquire? | 13:08 |
| isforinsects | AndyGraybeal_: the problem is there isn't a *ton* of CC music. | 13:09 |
| isforinsects | Not of every genre anyway | 13:09 |
| isforinsects | Lots of good stuff though. *lots* | 13:09 |
| isforinsects | There is also a lot of recordings on Archive.org, but are of dubious origins sometimes? Correct guys? | 13:10 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | thank yuo isforinsects | 13:10 |
| Bovinity | dubious indeed | 13:10 |
| Bovinity | everything on mixter/jamendo/magnatune is properly licensed | 13:10 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | what about bands that play at our venue.... would they have to be CC bands? | 13:11 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | obviously i'm really ignorant to this | 13:11 |
| Bovinity | AndyGraybeal_: there's been a lot of discussion over CC and ASCAP. They probably won't get off your backs, but using CC will help. (IANAL) | 13:12 |
| isforinsects | They just can't play covers of non-cc music I suppose. | 13:12 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | ASCAP/BMI are real meanies..... we spend like 6k a year on it | 13:13 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | it's awful | 13:13 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | er maybe it's not 6k.. but hell it's too much | 13:13 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | i'm wondering how to go about getting it stopped.. it would take a lot to train our staff to do it... and i'm sure a lot of them would refuse | 13:14 |
| AndyGraybeal_ | th anks for helping. | 13:14 |
| isforinsects | np | 13:14 |
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| tvol | paulproteus.....is alive. :) | 13:18 |
| tvol | yay | 13:18 |
| paulproteus | Just barely, but yes. (-: | 13:19 |
| tvol | paulproteus sorry to hear you've come down with a big nasty bug....you feelin' better? | 13:20 |
| paulproteus | Yes, I'm feeling better. | 13:20 |
| paulproteus | Largely, even if not totally. | 13:20 |
| paulproteus | It basically knocked me out all of last week past Tuesday. On my todo is to mail staff-sf explaining this. | 13:21 |
| paulproteus | Today's plan is mostly to give you that LC beta. | 13:21 |
| paulproteus | BTW, if you have a regular login shell on some Linux install more recent than late 2005 or so, you can get root on it. | 13:22 |
| paulproteus | security.debian.org for more, probably. | 13:23 |
| tvol | hey thx paulproteus | 13:23 |
| paulproteus | That should include the various CC servers, but it does not include my main server anymore, which I patched this morning. | 13:24 |
| paulproteus | Also e.g. friends' laptops | 13:25 |
| paulproteus | Back to LC. | 13:25 |
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| nkinkade | But I'm not sure that the kernels on any of our machines are vserver-enabled. Or does a stock etch kernel come vserver-enabled. The docs I saw seemed to indicate that it would be necessary to install such a kernel. | 13:37 |
| paulproteus | ? | 13:40 |
| paulproteus | http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1494 | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | Nothing to do with vserver. | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | Go go gadget privilege escalation. | 13:41 |
| paulproteus | nkinkade, I'll bet you a cookie you can download the exploit from bugs.debian.org and get r00t. | 13:42 |
| nkinkade | Maybe I was reading something into it when I saw this text "In the vserver-enabled kernels, a missing access check on certain symlinks in /proc enabled local attackers" | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Oh, that's a totally boring other bug. | 13:42 |
| nkinkade | That confused me. | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | The exciting bug is the first paragraph. | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Note the different CVE numbers. | 13:42 |
| nkinkade | Why is it listed in the same bug report? | 13:42 |
| paulproteus | Not same bug report. | 13:43 |
| paulproteus | bugs.debian.org holds bug reports. security.d.o holds reasons you should upgrade to new $package. | 13:43 |
| nkinkade | Just a notice? | 13:43 |
| nkinkade | Ah. | 13:43 |
| paulproteus | (reasons in the form of debian security advisories) | 13:43 |
| nkinkade | I imagine that patched kernel will be coming down via dpkg soon? | 13:43 |
| paulproteus | Already in apt. | 13:44 |
| nkinkade | In any case, I'm not really worried about any of the users on any of our machines. They all have root access anyway. | 13:44 |
| nkinkade | Then I should get a notice about it soon ... from apticron. | 13:44 |
| paulproteus | Remember how I joked that there was probably a program that gave everyone in the world a shell on our servers installed? | 13:44 |
| paulproteus | Relatedly WordPress had two security updates lately. | 13:45 |
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| paulproteus | I don't think either is as "good" as arbitrary shell code execution, though. | 13:45 |
| paulproteus | I think they were more boring, like being able to edit other people's posts. | 13:45 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, back to other stuff. WordPress.org surely has more, although they're less good about disclosing full details. | 13:46 |
| paulproteus | It's usually easy enough to figure it out from the patch, but I didn't do that this time. | 13:46 |
| Bovinity | paulproteus: what image dimensions do you want for the desktop background? | 13:48 |
| Bovinity | also, any other icons/art needed? | 13:48 |
| paulproteus | 1600x1200 if possible for the background, then GNOME will just smartly scale it. | 13:50 |
| paulproteus | I fear 16:9 ratios, though. | 13:50 |
| paulproteus | (1600x1200 as an arbitrarily maximally large resolution) | 13:50 |
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| CIA-4 | paulproteus * r8951 /autocurate/trunk/ (autocurate.py autocurate_flickr.py): stop having a function change the working directory | 14:04 |
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| paulproteus | tvol, Okay, so I think I just finally fixed the inclusion of Flickr into LiveContent. The disc now has just those two plus Russell's OOo templates. | 14:06 |
| paulproteus | I guess I'll boot the old one for ideas for data to copy. | 14:07 |
| isforinsects_ | paulproteus: SJ and I are working on a collaborative and distributed tagging project for Flickr CC images for OLPC. | 14:12 |
| tvol | paulproteus cool what about the wikimedia photos too? yeah not sure how much stuff is on the old one, but the cool thing is the autocurate with flickr | 14:12 |
| isforinsects_ | We might wanna talk sometime. | 14:12 |
| paulproteus | tvol, Yes, the Flickr stuff is the autocurated stuff, and when I wrote "those two" I meant Flickr + Wikimedia stuff (that's already there). | 14:13 |
| tvol | cool | 14:14 |
| paulproteus | The Wikimedia commons photos are already available without booting the disc as well as on the desktop, and if all goes well during this build that you can expect to take 3h the Flickr autocurateds will too. | 14:14 |
| paulproteus | (I expect that part to work.) | 14:14 |
| paulproteus | isforinsects, Agreed, and tvol may care also. | 14:16 |
| paulproteus | I'm free "whenever", just schedule me a time. I don't know about tvol. | 14:16 |
| isforinsects_ | paulproteus: probably wont be able to for another week or so. I'm trying to finish up my *day job* | 14:17 |
| paulproteus | So long as that's okay with SJ's timeline, it's fine with me. | 14:17 |
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| CIA-4 | paulproteus * r8955 /livecontent/trunk/cc-livecd-template.ks: Don't hang forever and get the entire build killed if the Flickr stuff is slow or something | 15:52 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: the extension CC_Semantic_Extensions is giving me problems in the upgrade. It's looking for a file that no longer exists in SMW: SMW_InlineQueries.php. | 16:27 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ok, i'll have to re-hack it... can't even remember exactly why i needed it before | 16:28 |
| nkinkade | nathany: I've setup a staging wiki area so that we can play around without worring about busting the real wiki. http://wiki-staging.creativecommons.org | 16:29 |
| nathany | great | 16:29 |
| nathany | btw i upgraded semantic forms on teamspace this afternoon | 16:29 |
| nathany | to 0.9.4 | 16:29 |
| nkinkade | at this moment it's essentially a clone of the live one. | 16:29 |
| nkinkade | yeah, it's a0.9.4 | 16:29 |
| nkinkade | I mean, 0.9.4 is installed in the ext. dir of wiki-staging. | 16:30 |
| nathany | ok | 16:30 |
| nkinkade | Just so you know. The problem is when I try to run "/maintenance/SMW_refreshData.php -v" ... it gets going and then fails somehow when the php file in CC_Semantic_Extension gets run ... | 16:32 |
| nkinkade | oh, and also, it uses it's own database, so no worries about messing up the live one. | 16:32 |
| nathany | nkinkade: ah, good call | 16:32 |
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| CIA-4 | nyergler * r8964 /i18n/trunk/po/ (da/pootle-cc_org-da.prefs sr/cc_org.po sr_LATN/cc_org.po): Updates from translate.cc.org. | 16:53 |
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| CIA-4 | nyergler * r8966 /i18n/trunk/ (57 files in 56 dirs): Added country.pr. | 17:01 |
| CIA-4 | nyergler * r8967 /i18n/trunk/i18n/ (52 files in 52 dirs): Resynced cc-style files. | 17:03 |
| paulproteus | nathany, Consider my silence consent on this issue. | 17:13 |
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| tvol | hey paulproteus any updates on the lc2.0 build? | 21:07 |
| paulproteus | I can give you a link to an old one; I accidentally crashed my machine during the build of the new one. | 21:09 |
| isforinsects_ | http://www.rozhlas.cz/d-dur/download_eng | 21:12 |
| tvol | yah paulproteus either is fine--i might not get to it tonight anymore here so if there's a new one imminent you could wait for that--if not send over the link to the old one, that's fine too | 21:14 |
| paulproteus | Oh my God, it would take 7 hours to upload. | 21:16 |
| tvol | sweet jesus in a birch-bark canoe! | 21:17 |
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| isforinsects_ | paulproteus: 2/3 pot of coffee, magic pixie dust, 1:59:14, robot ponies, and Shooting a violin to the moon. | 21:50 |
| paulproteus | I don't remember the coffee. | 21:50 |
| isforinsects_ | Only locally :P | 21:52 |
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