Wednesday, 2008-01-30

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CIA-3fourstones * r8796 /cchost/branches/cch5_work_area/ (71 files in 11 dirs): (log message trimmed)04:49
CIA-3more cclib movement in upgrade04:49
CIA-3index.php now allows old config-db to live04:49
CIA-3query api allows 'tree' as sort value on topics04:49
CIA-3upgraded submit forms no longer blow up on display (missing logo but ah well)04:49
CIA-3str_ bug in forums feed name04:49
CIA-3topic thread blew up if returning data was too big04:49
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Sirgadohi06:55
SirgadoImm about to publish music under CC-by-sa licence... I'm from spain... Should I use generic  licence or spanish specific licence?06:57
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rejonSirgado: either one will work...07:25
rejonthe spanish port has more specific language for spain07:25
rejonboth licenses are in spanish07:26
SirgadoI think I'll use generic, because is for all the world, not just for spain (I mean that the licence is generic and it could be aplied in every contry better than a licence adpated for spanish laws)07:29
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squawkHi, does anyone know whether there is a version of the html code required to display the cc license on your site that actually validates?08:18
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gavinblairsquawk: can't you just do a <a href='licence link'><img src='licence button' /></a> ?08:28
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nathanyrejon: SYN12:19
hubpaulproteus: I'll have to release a new version of exempi12:20
hubpaulproteus: my fix to liblicense does not work12:20
hubI'm stupid12:20
hubpaulproteus: btw C++-style comment in C makes compilers unhappy12:20
hubpaulproteus: I'll have to force 1.99.9 on liblicense12:25
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paulproteushub, Hah.  What's wrong with your liblicense fix?12:45
hubpaulproteus: it does not work because #ifdef only work on preprocessor symbols, while I use enums for this12:45
hubin short it still build on 1.99.7 but break on 1.99.812:46
paulproteushub, Oh well.12:46
hubso I have 1.99.9 to go out soon12:46
hubjust for this fix12:46
hub*sigh*12:46
paulproteusSmooth.12:46
paulproteus(-;12:46
hubfortunately make distcheck is usefull12:46
paulproteusnkinkade, !?!12:54
nkinkadepaulproteus: ?12:54
paulproteusSome sort of MySQL outage on a5...?12:54
nkinkadelet me check.12:54
paulproteus(OperationalError) (2002, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/12:54
paulproteusvar/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)") 'INSERT INTO complex (license_specifier, searc12:54
paulproteush_engine, count, query, timestamp, country, language) VALUES (%s, %s, %s, %s, %s12:54
paulproteus, %s, %s)' ['cc_modifiable', 'Yahoo', 0, 'license OR -license', datetime.datetim12:54
paulproteuse(2008, 1, 29, 0, 5, 21, 292092), 'Argentina', 'czech']12:54
paulproteusCuriously it seems to work right now.12:54
nkinkadepaulproteus: when did that error appear?  just now?12:55
paulproteusNo, unfortunately this log I'm generating doesn't have internal timestamps.12:55
paulproteusSeems to be ca. 30m ago, maybe.12:55
nkinkadeit's probably not a coincidence that i upgrade mysql yesterday.12:55
nkinkade --------------------- dpkg status changes Begin ------------------------12:56
nkinkade Upgraded:12:56
nkinkade    libmysqlclient15off 5.0.32-7etch4 => 5.0.32-7etch512:56
nkinkade    mysql-client-5.0 5.0.32-7etch4 => 5.0.32-7etch512:56
nkinkade    mysql-common 5.0.32-7etch4 => 5.0.32-7etch512:56
nkinkade    mysql-server 5.0.32-7etch4 => 5.0.32-7etch512:56
nkinkade    mysql-server-5.0 5.0.32-7etch4 => 5.0.32-7etch512:56
paulproteusIt was probably during the mysql outage that that happened, and it's okay now I guess.12:56
nkinkadethe outage should have only lasted about 5 seconds.12:57
nkinkadeyou've got a very observant script.12:58
paulproteusWell, it was doing queries at the time.12:58
nkinkadeperhaps I should notify everyone not just for kernel updates, but also for mysql updates as well.12:58
paulproteusAt least me, I guess. (-:12:58
nkinkadewhich by the way, there is an oustanding kernel update ready for a5 and a612:59
paulproteusOutstanding!12:59
nkinkadebut the question is whether those couple seconds of outage broke something.12:59
paulproteusSupposedly it was more than 5s, more like a 5m outage.12:59
nkinkadei would hope that your script would notice the outage and pause until it came back.12:59
paulproteusMy script is designed to just wait 20s between failures, but it reported it more than once.13:00
paulproteusThat'd be interesting, but instead it just waits 20s an tries again idiotically.13:00
nkinkadeI don't know how it could have been 5 minutes.  aptitude shut down mysql, applied changes and then restarted mysql.  i watched it happen.  it was no more than 10s, and i estimate less than 5.13:00
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paulproteusWell, okay.13:01
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paulproteusMy logs from this thing are by no means perfect.13:01
nkinkadein any case, i apologize that i didn't warn you.  i wasn't even aware that anything was really using mysql on a5.13:02
nkinkadepaulproteus: oh yes, about the kernel upgrade.  shall i sched a time, or should i just check with you and nathany and bovinity and then just do it?13:04
paulproteusIf you do it any time today during business hours that's great for me, especially between noon and six pm.13:05
paulproteusEither way re: sched vs. check.13:05
nkinkadeSince we're all here today, I'll just check with you, bovinity and nathany to make sure that I won't be interrupting some important script/task, and then I'll just apply and reboot.13:07
bovinityi have no server based tasks today13:09
bovinityand that cforms JS was packed with http://dean.edwards.name/packer/13:09
nkinkadebovinity: what do you think about the guys reply?13:09
bovinityhttp://www.crowproductions.de/repos/main/public/packer/jspacker.py13:09
bovinitypy implementation... may be able to UNpack...13:09
bovinitynkinkade, i agree he was a bit of a dick in response; but you did kinda threaten him a little13:10
paulproteusHeh.13:10
bovinitylot of a dick13:10
bovinityrather13:10
paulproteusSounds like a fun thread to be part of.13:10
bovinitypaulproteus, http://www.deliciousdays.com/cforms-forum?forum=3&topic=619&page=1&post=273413:11
nkinkadepaulproteus: check your mail.13:11
nkinkadebovinity: yeah, maybe i was a little strong, but i wasn't *that* strong.  i was frustrated that he hadn't included an unpacked version of the JS.  but he totally ignored the bug report.13:12
nkinkadei wonder if he'll reply to my reply.13:13
paulproteusMaybe he secretly lacks a non-packed version.13:13
nkinkadeI also noticed that he promptly removed the news items that the CC site was using cforms.13:13
paulproteusOh, jerk.13:13
nkinkadeI guess he took my bug report personally.13:13
paulproteusGeez.13:13
bovinityi expect he plays Uno and takes that personally too.13:14
nkinkadeOn rereading my message I felt like maybe my works were slightly antagonistic, but good heavens, he didn't need to get upset about it.13:14
paulproteus"Stay calm. There's no reason to get excited"..."It's just computers, it's not important." <http://liw.iki.fi/liw/texts/advocating-linux.html>13:15
bovinitywell if there are any alternative contact forms things, investigate them :/13:15
nkinkadebut about unpacking that JS, let me see.  however, i'm rather feeling like removing cforms from the site.13:15
paulproteusI can't decide if the appropriate response is to pretend he wasn't a jerk to calm things down or to just stop using his stuff.13:16
nkinkadewell, you can see in my reply to him that i was trying to amend any possible offense I may have given, which i honestly never meant to convey in the first place.  it really is a nice plugin.13:17
nkinkadebut still, the packed JS and his curt reply don't give me confidence in the plugin and make me want to find another.13:17
* paulproteus nods13:18
bovinityhacking together an unpacker would probably take longer than finding a suitable replacement13:20
paulproteushttp://yaisb.blogspot.com/2006/10/defeating-dean-edwards-javascript.html13:22
paulproteusI knew I recognized that function(p,a,c,k,e,d)... signature.13:22
bovinity"I recently packed one of my scripts and forgot to make a copy of original..."13:23
bovinityhmm13:23
bovinityhehe13:23
nkinkadeso it looks like unpacking it wouldn't be too hard, but i'd still rather look for another forms plugin, solely on the basis of principal.13:28
paulproteusprinciple, unless compound interest is at work here.13:29
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nkinkadepaulproteus: ah yes, thanks for the correction.13:38
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CIA-3nyergler * r8797 /license.rdf/trunk/license_rdf/ (6 files): Regenerated NZ RDF using "pretty" RDF output.14:40
CIA-3nyergler * r8798 /license.rdf/trunk/tools/support.py: Output using "pretty-rdf" formatter.14:41
nkinkadebovinity: nathany: how do you feel about having a small link with credits to the creator of cformsII on our contact form?14:44
CIA-3nyergler * r8799 /license.rdf/trunk/tools/merge.py: Use common support module for merge functionality.15:20
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CIA-3nyergler * r8800 /license.rdf/trunk/rdf/index.rdf: Regenerated complete RDF file.15:22
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CIA-3nyergler * r8801 /license.rdf/branches/production/ (10 files in 4 dirs): (log message trimmed)15:35
CIA-3Merged revisions 8760-8800 via svnmerge from15:35
CIA-3https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/license.rdf/trunk15:35
CIA-3........15:35
CIA-3 r8797 | nyergler | 2008-01-30 12:40:22 -0800 (Wed, 30 Jan 2008) | 1 line15:35
CIA-3 Regenerated NZ RDF using "pretty" RDF output.15:35
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bovinitynkinkade, i tweaked that css btw, all good to go16:13
nkinkadebovinity: that looks much better.  the color blends a little more with everything else instead of being a big blue link that looks awkward.16:14
nkinkadesee the email i just sent to webmaster.  the author says he's fixed the regex problems and a few others.  i'll put the new version he gave to me on staging and it if works, i'll commit it all and then merge it to production.16:15
nkinkadebovinity: nathany: paulproteus: is now an okay time for me to update the kernel on a5 and a6 and reboot?16:17
nathanynkinkade: yes16:17
paulproteusnkinkade, yes16:17
bovinitynkinkade, yes16:18
nkinkadewelcome to Linux 2.6.18-6-k716:37
nkinkadenathany: you're on a3, looks like zope is having some memory issues.16:40
nathanynkinkade: looking16:41
nkinkadenathany: i would have just restarted it, but saw you were logged in and i didn't want to mess up something you might have been doing.16:42
nathanyyeah, i was poking at it16:42
nkinkadeshould i put together a script that checks zope every once in a while and if it's using more than x memory to restart it?16:42
nathanyif its easy16:43
nathanyi think we'll have a couple improvements to roll out when we go to A716:43
nathanybut they're a pain in the ass w/ the special LD_LIBRARY stuff a3 needs16:43
nathany(LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib)16:44
nkinkadeyou probably already saw the email i sent you regarding a7.16:44
nkinkadeis it necessary to manually specify that env var when restarting the enginef?16:44
nathanyyou need to make sure its set in the environment16:44
nathanyotherwise it finds the wrong version of libxml2, libxslt116:44
nkinkadei suppose it's already set in root's bashrc or .profile?  because the few times i've restarted zope it all seems to work.16:45
nkinkadeI don't think it would be too hard to write a script that checks zope, but I wonder if it's worth it if we're going to move to a new server within a week or two.16:45
nathanynkinkade: no idea if it's set in roots bashrc/.profile16:51
nathanyi always set manually, just because i'm paranoid16:51
nkinkadebovinity: other than the CSS file, are there any other files in the cforms dir that we may have added, to you knowledge?17:02
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bovinitynkinkade, nope, only the css file17:06
nkinkadeeverything seems to be working with v7.3b.  i'm committing it now and after i play around with it for a few more minutes I may merge it to production.17:07
CIA-3nkinkade * r8802 /ccwordpress/trunk/www/wp-content/plugins/contactforms/ (206 files in 10 dirs): Upgrade cformsII to v7.3b and small fix to the CC style sheet17:07
nkinkadeaccept for the fact that it accepts "me@some@bad@address@here@google.com" as a valid email, i think we are okay.17:19
paulproteusI think some of that might be valid.17:20
paulproteusc.f. "SMTP source routing"17:20
nkinkadei thought that the source routing stuff used !17:21
CIA-3nyergler * r8803 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/licenses/standard_templates/deed.pt: Enabled Libre badge.17:21
bovinityhooray17:21
paulproteusI think you're right.17:22
nkinkadeone other nice thing is that we can specify the id of the page of the contact for and the plugin will only add the CSS and JS headers to that page.17:22
nkinkadeThis will shave around 25KB from every single page, except /contact, that is.17:23
bovinitynice17:24
CIA-3nkinkade * r8804 /ccwordpress/branches/production/ (221 files in 11 dirs):17:33
CIA-3Merged revisions 8802 via svnmerge from17:33
CIA-3https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/ccwordpress/trunk17:33
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CIA-3 r8802 | nkinkade | 2008-01-30 15:07:47 -0800 (Wed, 30 Jan 2008) | 1 line17:33
CIA-3 Upgrade cformsII to v7.3b and small fix to the CC style sheet17:33
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CIA-3nkinkade * r8805 /ccwordpress/branches/production/ (18 files in 6 dirs):18:54
CIA-3Merged revisions 8769 via svnmerge from18:54
CIA-3https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/ccwordpress/trunk18:54
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CIA-3 r8769 | nkinkade | 2008-01-24 15:35:48 -0800 (Thu, 24 Jan 2008) | 1 line18:54
CIA-3 Upgrade of Wordpress from 2.3.1 to 2.3.218:54
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e-starrrrojer: hey!19:43
rrrojere-star: hi!19:44
e-staryou get my txt?19:44
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paulproteusOh, Boston!19:45
e-starhaha, that's a cool nick19:45
e-starrrrojer: sadly i don't think i'll be able to make it though sfo en route to brazil, as i was telling paulproteus19:46
paulproteusWhy Brazil anyway?19:47
rrrojere-star: yep, got your text. sad i won't be seeing you but can't complain about brazil....19:47
e-starrrrojer: coming back to the east coast anytime soon?19:47
rrrojere-star: probably not till april19:48
e-starahhhh..wow19:48
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CIA-3paulproteus * r8806 /livecontent/f8-minimal/ (cc-livecd-template.ks make_cd.sh): give us back the ISO, and also do not refer to nonexistent services20:01
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