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| rejon | paulproteus: you there | 09:51 |
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| paulproteus | rejon, yes | 10:03 |
| rejon | heya, what is the best way to get specific info about our licenses, translations, etc | 10:04 |
| rejon | biz' keep needing full lists of info about cc licenses | 10:05 |
| paulproteus | For Adobe? | 10:05 |
| rejon | since we have the rdf...... | 10:05 |
| rejon | i'm out of touch on best way to access without doing manually | 10:05 |
| rejon | whoa http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/28/nokia-acquires-trolltech-the-biggest-little-company-youve-ne/ | 10:05 |
| rejon | and asus | 10:06 |
| rejon | and more | 10:06 |
| paulproteus | rejon, I've been congratulating ljp on #qtopia for a while now (-: | 10:06 |
| paulproteus | rejon, "DON'T FEED THE TROLL! Wait... I think I'm missing something here..." | 10:06 |
| rejon | yah, pretty cool | 10:07 |
| rejon | good move by nokia | 10:07 |
| paulproteus | rejon, licenses.xml is good but abstract. | 10:08 |
| paulproteus | I guess a tool to generate a list in ini format would be useful. | 10:08 |
| paulproteus | Basically, rejon - let me talk to you tomorrow about it after chatting with nathany; feel free to reply to people asking for the data saying they can have it by the end of Tuesday or Wednesday daytime at the latest. | 10:09 |
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| rejon | i would say liblicense's license cli script, but prolly something really easy that can do simple operations and some prefab transforms would be quite useful | 10:11 |
| rejon | cli | 10:11 |
| paulproteus | Adobe doesn't want jurisdictions, right? | 10:11 |
| paulproteus | Just generic licenses? | 10:11 |
| paulproteus | + translated text about the choices | 10:11 |
| rejon | right | 10:16 |
| rejon | paulproteus: | 10:17 |
| paulproteus | This Nokia Trolltech thing will be interesting. | 10:23 |
| paulproteus | This will be an exciting year. | 10:24 |
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| rejon | paulproteus: year of mergers and large scale integration...ake, the year of sync | 11:06 |
| rejon | night | 11:06 |
| paulproteus | Night (-: | 11:09 |
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| kourge | Hi all | 12:08 |
| kourge | Is CC by 3.0 considered compatible with GPLv2? | 12:09 |
| paulproteus | GPLv2 software can't be relicensed as CC by 3.0. | 12:10 |
| paulproteus | I think that CC by 3.0 content can't be relicensed as GPLv2, but that's a trickier question to consider.... | 12:11 |
| dmitrig01 | what about a dual license? | 12:11 |
| kourge | I'm thinking of the latter | 12:11 |
| kourge | Where an existing software is licensed under CC by 3.0 | 12:11 |
| dmitrig01 | paulproteus: what about a dual license? | 12:11 |
| kourge | Can it be dual-licensed under GPLv2 if it's already licensed under CC by 3.0? | 12:12 |
| kourge | (I know that it's sort of a bad idea to put CC on software, since CC's meant for content) | 12:12 |
| kourge | (But that's what the author did) | 12:12 |
| paulproteus | If you are the (C) holder, and you want people to be able to pick either CC by 3.0 or GPLv2, then you should dual license. | 12:12 |
| dmitrig01 | ok thanks | 12:13 |
| paulproteus | kourge, In general I find that emailing the (C) holder of the software may get him to be able to relicense. | 12:13 |
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| dmitrig01 | paulproteus: thanks | 12:13 |
| kourge | paulproteus: Ah, so the author shouldn't have any worries about CC by 3.0 and GPLv2 being incompatible, right? | 12:13 |
| paulproteus | I think that if you take this other guy's work under CC by 3.0 and relicense it under GPLv2 you're breaking his terms. | 12:15 |
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| kourge | paulproteus: But if the guy decides to *dual-license* GPLv2 to his software, with his software already being CC by 3.0, should he have any worries about license incompatibility? | 12:16 |
| paulproteus | kourge, Then anyone can use either GPLv2 or CC by 3.0. | 12:16 |
| paulproteus | So right - no worries so long as the downstream users use ether GPLv2, CC by 3.0, or the same "dual license". | 12:16 |
| paulproteus | Downstream authors can't e.g. relicense under the BSD license, obviously. | 12:16 |
| kourge | paulproteus: So it's because he's the (C) holder, he can do so? | 12:17 |
| paulproteus | The fact that GPLv2 and CC by 3.0 is no hindrance to dual licensing. | 12:17 |
| paulproteus | kourge, Right. | 12:17 |
| paulproteus | The fact that GPLv2 and CC by 3.0 are "incompatible" is no hindrance to dual licensing. | 12:17 |
| kourge | paulproteus: Ah. | 12:17 |
| bovinity | the real question is why is anyone licensing *software* with cc | 12:17 |
| paulproteus | Because dual licensing means giving the downstream user an option. | 12:17 |
| kourge | paulproteus: That's good to know. | 12:17 |
| paulproteus | bovinity, nathany recently asked some dude to relicense some CC-by Python code. | 12:18 |
| kourge | paulproteus: Because I wasn't really sure if license compatibility can act as an impediment to dual (or tri) licensing. | 12:18 |
| kourge | bovinity: Oh yes there is. | 12:18 |
| * bovinity wonders if that code was more documentation than code :D | 12:18 | |
| kourge | bovinity: Look at http://keith-wood.name/svg.html | 12:18 |
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| paulproteus | bovinity, Perhaps they just like us more than they like the Open Source Initiative or the FSF... | 12:19 |
| kourge | paulproteus: LOL @ that. | 12:19 |
| kourge | bovinity: And S5 1.0 was under CC too. | 12:19 |
| paulproteus | BTW, http://nomorelol.com/ | 12:19 |
| kourge | bovinity: See http://meyerweb.com/eric/tools/s5/faq.html | 12:20 |
| paulproteus | """The National Acronym Monitoring Board of Linguistic Anomalies or NAMBLA has begun to crack down on "False Lolling" which is a class G felony punishable by permanent IP banning and in rare cases death by pwnage.""" | 12:20 |
| bovinity | well i don't doubt people /are/ licensing software with cc | 12:20 |
| bovinity | but it's not something we encourage or advocate | 12:20 |
| kourge | bovinity: Sigh. But people still do it :P | 12:20 |
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| kourge | paulproteus: I was actually laughing out loud, so I reckon that wouldn't be considered False Lolling ;) | 12:21 |
| paulproteus | kourge, Good (-: | 12:21 |
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