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| supervillain | how do I add my country to liblicense? | 00:13 |
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| jakin | supervillain, for the jurisdiction? | 00:23 |
| supervillain | yes, but I think we still doesn't have it applied. | 00:24 |
| supervillain | Philippines | 00:24 |
| jakin | the jurisdictions listed are the only jurisdictions that creative commons has ported the licenses to | 00:25 |
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| supervillain | can we make all the flag resolution size uniform? | 00:26 |
| jakin | that can go on the todo list :-) | 00:27 |
| supervillain | except for the switzerland | 00:27 |
| jakin | i did the kde frontend... those are uniform :-P | 00:31 |
| supervillain | I resize every flag icons to 54x36, except switzerland | 00:38 |
| supervillain | here is the link http://124.104.2.38/~joelbryan/flag_icons_uniform_size.tar.gz | 00:38 |
| Bovinity | could someone who knows my email address email me that url, so i don't forget about it :) | 00:40 |
| supervillain | yikes, it's a local server, I'll just email the file or upload it via svn | 00:41 |
| Bovinity | alex at cc is my address | 00:42 |
| supervillain | ok, I'll upload it to you now | 00:44 |
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| jakin | sweet | 01:05 |
| jakin | Bovinity, had any luck with music-trendz? | 01:05 |
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| Bovinity | well it works for me now | 01:12 |
| jakin | i | 01:13 |
| jakin | i've been hacking away at all kinds of random combinations of colors and styles | 01:13 |
| Bovinity | i havent tried your code, don't have all the required py classes | 01:13 |
| jakin | http://code.google.com/p/music-trendz/wiki/Demos | 01:13 |
| Bovinity | Project Pitchfork. Nice. | 01:14 |
| jakin | :-) | 01:14 |
| Bovinity | ooh, you listen to diary of dreams? | 01:14 |
| jakin | oh, the first graph isn't mine | 01:14 |
| jakin | i found a random user with 35000+ total plays | 01:15 |
| Bovinity | that 7th graph is really pretty | 01:15 |
| Bovinity | ah | 01:15 |
| jakin | yeah, i was going for cool-looking, and ignoring any sort of purpose/information | 01:16 |
| jakin | i like the 3rd one... i just wish i could add more contrast between layers | 01:19 |
| rejon | damn, you guys are still on it | 01:24 |
| rejon | dude, that is cool | 01:24 |
| jakin | :-P | 01:25 |
| rejon | is there a way to show cc licensed tracks on that | 01:25 |
| rejon | if so, then cc blog that ish | 01:25 |
| jakin | all i get from last.fm is an artist name. it doesn't deal with individual tracks | 01:26 |
| Bovinity | you can get weekly track charts | 01:27 |
| jakin | true... that's a whole different direction i might get around to | 01:28 |
| Bovinity | it would be cool to click on an artist, int eh visualisation, and see further track breakdowns | 01:28 |
| jakin | so much data :-P | 01:28 |
| Bovinity | fun with data mining | 01:28 |
| rejon | yah, totally cool | 01:28 |
| rejon | What would be cool is to use something standard like atom | 01:29 |
| Bovinity | the audioscrobbler data is CC licensed, if it isn't your own | 01:29 |
| Bovinity | by-nc-sa | 01:29 |
| rejon | so that you could implement this visualizer across different platforms | 01:29 |
| rejon | that is another big project I'm taking on this fall | 01:30 |
| Bovinity | AS? | 01:30 |
| rejon | to get more ppl to use standard open content protocols | 01:30 |
| jakin | i don't see anything holding back doing this across different platforms... | 01:31 |
| Bovinity | you just need to implement the renderer | 01:32 |
| jakin | right | 01:32 |
| Bovinity | should be pretty simple for OSX. CoreImage drawing api is very similar to Cairo | 01:33 |
| jakin | for the visualizations so far, the frontend code is pretty short. 100 lines for cairo and 60 lines for pychart | 01:33 |
| jakin | but i could imagine things getting much more complex | 01:33 |
| rejon | cairo uses coreimage on os x | 01:35 |
| Bovinity | ah, i didnt realise there was a native port | 01:36 |
| rejon | I started a project called datascan in grad school that I wanted to be a system for taking any data and any visualizer and connecting up the two | 01:36 |
| Bovinity | i had an idea to do that last year | 01:36 |
| rejon | didn't get super far | 01:36 |
| jakin | sounds cool | 01:36 |
| rejon | yah, I think would be an awesome demo of the power of the open * web | 01:37 |
| rejon | (I'm calling it OpenStar or Open * now...because you need everything open to do this) | 01:37 |
| jakin | :-) | 01:37 |
| rejon | like, pick your favorite open feed...then pick your favorite renderer, and bam, instant visualization | 01:37 |
| rejon | or open service | 01:37 |
| rejon | dude, this new site is the shit alex | 01:38 |
| rejon | esp. the colored "edit this article" tab that pops up now | 01:38 |
| Bovinity | thx! | 01:38 |
| rejon | on a2 | 01:38 |
| rejon | dude, this rules.... | 01:38 |
| Bovinity | i overhauled almost everything in the theme. it's totally leaner and meaner now. | 01:39 |
| rejon | yah | 01:40 |
| rejon | the footer is hot too | 01:41 |
| Bovinity | :D | 01:42 |
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| jakin | sleep...mmmm | 02:16 |
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| supervillain | Can the "Building on the Past" be bundled on a Linux distribution? | 04:25 |
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| pmiller | any liblicense authors: hi | 07:16 |
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| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: Liblicense <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense> | 12:54 |
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| paulproteus | Oops, I'm a twerp and missed my flight. | 15:53 |
| rejon | -$100 to you! | 15:54 |
| paulproteus | Well, I'm rescheduled for leaving tonight. | 15:55 |
| paulproteus | So now I'm chilling in the airport. | 15:55 |
| paulproteus | Were you around for the conversation with Ralph about tunnels...? | 15:55 |
| paulproteus | Anyway, there are a lot of tunnels involved to get this message to you. | 15:57 |
| paulproteus | SFO -> New Jersey -> Tokyo -> freenode | 15:57 |
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| rejon | really... | 16:00 |
| rejon | so you are tunneling through the tmobile port what? | 16:01 |
| rejon | at sfo? | 16:01 |
| paulproteus | I'm doing this over the T-Mobile wifi, actually. | 16:01 |
| paulproteus | At SFO. | 16:01 |
| paulproteus | It seems to allow UDP port 53 through to any machine on the vast network o' networks. | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | Network o' networks makes me think "filet o' fish". | 16:02 |
| paulproteus | I don't know if that's the name for the fish sandwich at McDonald's in the US, but it was the name in England when I was six there. | 16:03 |
| CIA-37 | nyergler * r6927 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/ (chooser.py i18n.py): Fixes to the language detection code; cache the result first time around for query-string-based selection. | 16:04 |
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| CIA-37 | nyergler * r6928 /cc.engine/trunk/cc/engine/ (configure.zcml i18n.py): Slight clarity improvements. | 16:24 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Thanks for emailing those dudes. | 16:26 |
| rejon | yah | 16:26 |
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| tannewt | rejon, I'm not going to deal with Fedora | 16:39 |
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| tannewt | rejon, I'm leaving | 18:03 |
| tannewt | rejon, keep up the good work | 18:04 |
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| paulproteus | BBYYYEEE tannewt! | 18:41 |
| jakin | awww, tannewt's gone forever | 18:48 |
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| jakin | or not | 19:03 |
| tannewt | or so | 19:04 |
| jakin | i found a bug... labels were practically randomly being displayed | 19:04 |
| jakin | now our graphs look like they match reality | 19:05 |
| tannewt | jakin, what do you mean? | 19:09 |
| jakin | tannewt, my script outputs reasonable results of you and i's habits | 19:10 |
| tannewt | jakin, which script? | 19:11 |
| jakin | tannewt, cairo_spline_timeline.py is the best one | 19:11 |
| jakin | tannewt, what do you think of this coloring: http://students.washington.edu/jkivligh/tannewt-splines-trans.png | 19:11 |
| tannewt | jakin, neat | 19:12 |
| jakin | tannewt, curves still not treating you well? | 19:13 |
| tannewt | jakin, nope, thought I was close and.... | 19:13 |
| tannewt | well, there were more cases than I was considering | 19:13 |
| jakin | :-/ | 19:14 |
| tannewt | I'm not sure what to do now | 19:15 |
| tannewt | probably just keep playing with it | 19:15 |
| jakin | i separated out my graphing code from the data and coloring... since then all i've done is look around for random users with cool graphs | 19:17 |
| tannewt | huh, mines all thrown together :-) | 19:17 |
| jakin | i was trying so many variations on things that that wasn't working | 19:18 |
| jakin | labels are done independent of the graph too | 19:18 |
| tannewt | jakin, it is separated by methods... all I've been doing is dealing with curves | 19:18 |
| jakin | tannewt, for me, dealing with curves just means passing in curved data | 19:19 |
| jakin | i didn't have the motivation to move on... so i kept hacking until i got to this | 19:21 |
| tannewt | move on to what? | 19:22 |
| jakin | another graph type... i was thinking about doing global trends | 19:22 |
| tannewt | hmm | 19:22 |
| jakin | based on a bunch of random samplings of users | 19:22 |
| tannewt | I think I need a stack | 19:25 |
| tannewt | :-) | 19:25 |
| jakin | oooh | 19:25 |
| jakin | i failed on getting japanese to display | 19:26 |
| jakin | i think i just need a font that supports it, but I don't know what that is | 19:27 |
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| jakin | my terminal displays japanese... i wish i knew what font that was | 19:27 |
| tannewt | hmm | 19:29 |
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| rejo1 | dude, that is looking hot | 19:33 |
| rejo1 | damn, tannewt bailed witout giving me a hug! | 19:33 |
| tannewt | rejo1, you were in a meeting and I was ready to go | 19:33 |
| tannewt | rejo1, dont worry, I got a hug from you when the other interns left :-) | 19:34 |
| jakin | hehe | 19:34 |
| rejo1 | ;) | 19:34 |
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| jakin | whoa... tracked-based graph... | 20:02 |
| tannewt | hmm | 20:03 |
| * jakin changes "tracks" -> "albums" | 20:04 | |
| jakin | oooh, album-based graph :-P | 20:04 |
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| tannewt | jakin, I'm out of curve ideas | 20:30 |
| jakin | tannewt, you could always help me :-P | 20:31 |
| jakin | i've got cairo_spline_timeline.py souped up with command-line options, allowing to save to disk, setting the threshold, choosing between artist,track,album, etc., etc. | 20:32 |
| tannewt | wow | 20:33 |
| tannewt | you are miles ahead of me | 20:33 |
| jakin | that was just the last 15-20 minutes | 20:33 |
| jakin | committed | 20:36 |
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| supervillain | I installed liblicense 0.4, and I'm debugging nautilus right now, it's crashing everytime I browse a directory with a movie file. | 20:39 |
| tannewt | supervillain, what kind of file? | 20:40 |
| supervillain | doing a "gdb nautilus `pidof nautilus`" and hitting continue gives me an error "Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0xb7be6735 in _gtk_xdg_alias_list_lookup () from /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0" | 20:40 |
| supervillain | tannewt: an Ogg file. | 20:40 |
| supervillain | I'm using Ubuntu Feisty, GNOME 2.18 | 20:41 |
| tannewt | supervillain, hmm, dunno... could you file a bug on sf? | 20:41 |
| supervillain | ok | 20:41 |
| tannewt | supervillain, thanks | 20:41 |
| supervillain | another is, whenever I try create a license on a read-only filesystem, nautilus also crash. | 20:44 |
| paulproteus | supervillain, OUCH! | 20:50 |
| jakin | tannewt, alright, everything is condensed into ./cairo_timeline.py, with lots of command-line options. that's enough for now... | 20:53 |
| tannewt | jakin, :-) | 20:53 |
| * tannewt kicks himself | 21:30 | |
| jakin | :-P | 21:31 |
| tannewt | jakin, works pretty well if you fix the slope of the handles | 21:31 |
| jakin | handle? | 21:31 |
| tannewt | what makes the curve curvy | 21:32 |
| jakin | ah | 21:32 |
| jakin | guess those are important then... i'd had to see an un-curvy curve | 21:35 |
| jakin | s/had/hate | 21:35 |
| * jakin notices that tannewt doesn't listen to particular tracks over and over again like jakin | 21:36 | |
| jakin | your tracks graph is uniform... | 21:36 |
| tannewt | you broke my script | 21:37 |
| tannewt | no artists table | 21:37 |
| jakin | oops | 21:37 |
| tannewt | got it | 21:37 |
| tannewt | had to delete my db | 21:37 |
| jakin | now it downloads track,album,and artist data | 21:38 |
| tannewt | oooh | 21:39 |
| jakin | in the sql, just change artist(s)->track(s) or album(s) and you've got two new graphs | 21:39 |
| tannewt | sweet | 21:40 |
| * jakin stares at a graph plotting every single track i've ever played | 21:41 | |
| jakin | man, i really wish i could arbitrarily zoom in and out | 21:42 |
| tannewt | hook up slider to a redraw | 21:43 |
| jakin | maybe there's something in the api that'd make it easy than i think | 21:44 |
| jakin | but first i'm going to see what an svg looks like | 21:44 |
| tannewt | :-) | 21:44 |
| * paulproteus charges the XO he stole from the office | 21:48 | |
| paulproteus | The airport security people were very impressed. | 21:48 |
| tannewt | :-) | 21:49 |
| jakin | hmm, 16mb file | 21:51 |
| paulproteus | As usual, I was randomly selected for special screening. | 21:52 |
| tannewt | hehe | 21:52 |
| tannewt | dinner, later | 21:52 |
| jakin | paulproteus, i got randomly selected 3 flights in a row | 21:52 |
| paulproteus | (-: | 21:52 |
| jakin | tannewt, ciao | 21:52 |
| tannewt | someone broke udev's cdrom permissions | 21:54 |
| jakin | well, i'll guess it was nobody here | 21:55 |
| jakin | :-P | 21:55 |
| tannewt | :-) | 21:55 |
| jakin | i swear, it wasn't me | 21:56 |
| tannewt | jakin, compiling scipy sucks | 22:23 |
| paulproteus | tannewt, emerge apt-get | 22:33 |
| tannewt | jakin, how'd you figure out the colors | 22:43 |
| jakin | tannewt, the blue -> green -> red thing? | 22:49 |
| tannewt | jakin, yeah | 22:50 |
| jakin | tannewt, i transitioned the hue from 0.55 to 0.05 | 22:50 |
| jakin | and alternated upping the brightness | 22:51 |
| tannewt | hmm, I using rgb at the moment | 22:51 |
| tannewt | i'm | 22:51 |
| jakin | colorsys has hsv_to_rgb and rgb_to_hsv | 22:52 |
| jakin | i tried transitioning in rgb, but the bands blended together too much | 22:52 |
| tannewt | jakin, nice | 22:53 |
| tannewt | looks like lee averaged things | 22:54 |
| jakin | tannewt, how about generating a map of artist->color so I could use what you come up with ;-) | 22:57 |
| jakin | or at least some kind of independent structure | 22:57 |
| tannewt | jakin, it varies on runs | 22:58 |
| jakin | tannewt, what does? | 22:58 |
| tannewt | the color | 22:58 |
| tannewt | I'm still not satisfied with it | 22:58 |
| jakin | right... but could you make a function that I could call? | 22:58 |
| tannewt | jakin, not tonight, movie time | 22:59 |
| jakin | tannewt, i'm in no hurry | 22:59 |
| jakin | :-P | 22:59 |
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| jakin | tannewt, lookin' good | 23:09 |
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