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| rejon | bse and tvol: are we meeting | 17:03 |
| bovinity | lets | 17:03 |
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| cameronparkins | rejon: im looking over your slideshare from pixelodeon and im going to try and adapt it to the WVS - once ive got it pretty much how i think would prob work well, im gonna upload it to slide share - does that sound good? | 18:48 |
| cameronparkins | just out of interest, how long did this presentation take you? | 18:49 |
| cameronparkins | so i know how much we have to cut | 18:49 |
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| rejon | cameronparkins: that was a 45 minute keynote | 18:54 |
| rejon | 20 slides in 5-8 minutes is good | 18:54 |
| cameronparkins | oh wow | 18:54 |
| cameronparkins | ok cool | 18:54 |
| rejon | maximum impact | 18:54 |
| cameronparkins | have you checked out the other people on the panel? | 18:54 |
| cameronparkins | they are interesting | 18:55 |
| rejon | yah, i know eddie | 18:59 |
| rejon | he did first cc salon | 18:59 |
| rejon | the aza raskin guy is interesting | 18:59 |
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| bovinity | ah, just the man | 19:00 |
| bovinity | rejon, tvol, http://www.sfvideo.com/cd/templates/photo/CD_DVDsingleBookStyleWallet.jpg | 19:00 |
| rejon | i like that | 19:00 |
| bovinity | i'm getting a quote for 1000 right now | 19:00 |
| rejon | excellent | 19:00 |
| tvol | looks rad. we should have a swank resort on ours too | 19:02 |
| rejon | yah, and go there | 19:02 |
| bovinity | host a launch party there. | 19:02 |
| bovinity | or just a party. | 19:02 |
| cameronparkins | that place is ritzy | 19:10 |
| cameronparkins | at first i thought that was the design for the LiveCD and i was very confused | 19:11 |
| bovinity | haha | 19:13 |
| bovinity | livecd is code named "posh expensive resort", yes | 19:13 |
| cameronparkins | haha | 19:17 |
| cameronparkins | rejon: you wanna stick with the general idea of remix culture and incorporating CC licenses to make content more attractive to users for this presentation right? | 19:17 |
| tannewt | rejon, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense#Interface | 19:19 |
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| cameronparkins | rejon, bovinity, rebecaa and i are going to curry if you want in | 19:26 |
| bovinity | ok | 19:26 |
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| themayor | tannewt: yo | 19:36 |
| tannewt | themayor, hie | 19:36 |
| tannewt | ack | 19:36 |
| tannewt | hi | 19:36 |
| themayor | hey | 19:37 |
| themayor | yeah you guys can talk to me | 19:37 |
| themayor | sorry i havent been around most of today | 19:37 |
| tannewt | themayor, we've been having trouble with revisor, we check only a few things but many things we did not check are pulled into the build | 19:37 |
| tannewt | themayor, I understand how dependencies work but I believe many are unnecessary | 19:37 |
| tannewt | themayor, is there a better tool to use? | 19:38 |
| themayor | well first off, explain to me some of the dep issues youre having in detail | 19:39 |
| themayor | like what is it pulling in | 19:39 |
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| tannewt | themayor, well, we had one where we checked gnome with no optional packages, firefox, oowriter, gqview and totem. Once we said to build the CD it said it was downloading things such as the gimp and evolution. | 19:41 |
| tannewt | themayor, we load kickstart files into revisor, we can send them to you | 19:43 |
| themayor | tannewt: sure, send them, also, have you guys been on the revisor mailing lists | 19:45 |
| tannewt | themayor, no we're not on the ml | 19:46 |
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| tvol | hey themayor, it's tvol - working with tannewt--i'll send you the file | 19:47 |
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| themayor | awesome | 19:56 |
| tannewt | themayor, I assume you got the file | 19:58 |
| themayor | not yet | 19:58 |
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| themayor | there is always lag with our email due to filtering and storing though | 19:58 |
| tannewt | themayor, ah, tvol just sent it | 19:58 |
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| * jakin notices the online license chooses uses the http://web.resource.org/cc/ namespace instead of http://creativecommons.org/ns# Tracker won't pick up on this namespace | 21:04 | |
| jakin | for xmp | 21:04 |
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| rejon | jakin: why not? | 21:54 |
| rejon | is that a problem? | 21:54 |
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| rejon | rrr_: are the mockups near done? what is left on that? | 22:11 |
| rrr_ | yep uploading them all now | 22:11 |
| rejon | cool | 22:11 |
| rejon | yah, anxious to get onto the marking stuff | 22:11 |
| rrr_ | actually, im getting a permissions errr | 22:11 |
| rejon | bse:? | 22:11 |
| rrr_ | Permission error | 22:12 |
| rrr_ | From CcWiki | 22:12 |
| rrr_ | The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups Sysops, confirmed. | 22:12 |
| bovinity | yo | 22:12 |
| bovinity | hmm | 22:12 |
| bovinity | which wiki and page? | 22:13 |
| rrr_ | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Special:Upload | 22:13 |
| bovinity | oh. that's probably so we dont get spammers uploading porn | 22:14 |
| bovinity | or jsut an upgrade glitch. | 22:14 |
| rrr_ | yea, how can i get into that group? | 22:14 |
| jakin | rejon, why are there two namespaces? | 22:17 |
| rejon | you should email cc-devel@ about that | 22:18 |
| rejon | and cc nathan@ | 22:18 |
| rejon | creativecommons.org | 22:18 |
| rejon | about that one...I've wondered too | 22:18 |
| rejon | at least the web.... one resolves too | 22:18 |
| rejon | the cc URI should at least land somewhere explaining too | 22:19 |
| jakin | nathan corrected me once and said to use the creativecommons.org one | 22:19 |
| rejon | oh, you should bring that up on the list | 22:19 |
| rejon | we need something for resolution on that page that explains | 22:19 |
| rejon | can you do that? | 22:19 |
| rejon | or rather would you? | 22:20 |
| jakin | sure | 22:20 |
| rejon | thx... | 22:20 |
| rrr_ | rejon: should i start marking stuff since i can't upload? | 22:21 |
| bovinity | adding you now | 22:22 |
| bovinity | what;s your username? | 22:22 |
| rrr_ | "Rebecca Rojer" | 22:24 |
| bovinity | ok, you can upload now | 22:25 |
| bovinity | theoretically. | 22:25 |
| rrr_ | thanks, lemme try | 22:27 |
| rrr_ | The upload directory (/web/wiki2/www/mediawiki-1.10.0/images) is not writable by the webserver. | 22:27 |
| bovinity | whee | 22:27 |
| bovinity | terry is updating wiki to the latest version, so i guess some parts are still... wonky. | 22:28 |
| rejon | who is thierry on here? | 22:28 |
| bovinity | that upload directory is invalid anyway. uhh. | 22:28 |
| rrr_ | should i try uploading to teamspace for now? | 22:30 |
| bovinity | ought to work now | 22:30 |
| rrr_ | i'm still getting the same error | 22:31 |
| bovinity | yeah, use teamspace for now | 22:31 |
| rrr_ | ok | 22:32 |
| rejon | just wait | 22:32 |
| rejon | until ready | 22:32 |
| rejon | coordinate with thierry and put pressure on him | 22:32 |
| rejon | ;) | 22:33 |
| rejon | otherwise, marking stuff | 22:33 |
| rejon | and I'll start connecting up the mockups with respective communities and we can work on that in the background | 22:33 |
| rejon | who is frame? | 22:33 |
| rejon | hi frame | 22:33 |
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| rrr_ | rejon: what marking stuff should i be working on? | 22:40 |
| rejon | need to come up with 1-3 possible media treatments for each of the major media | 22:41 |
| rejon | so, it is more than just visual, but could be audio too | 22:41 |
| rejon | but the visual will drive | 22:41 |
| rejon | audio, video, image, text (are the main ones from the website, right bse?) | 22:42 |
| rrr_ | okay. are these guidelines, or mockups? | 22:42 |
| rejon | guidelines | 22:42 |
| bovinity | right | 22:42 |
| rejon | they should be short too...but need to ascertain minimum amount of info to show license + attribution for a work | 22:43 |
| rejon | which might be problematic | 22:43 |
| rejon | simplest: just notifying the license | 22:43 |
| rejon | more complex: license marking/notification + attribution | 22:43 |
| rejon | best to work on simplest for now | 22:43 |
| rrr_ | what are the current guidelines? | 22:46 |
| rejon | you have to make them | 22:46 |
| rejon | I'm giving massive generalizations | 22:46 |
| rejon | think big and then we'll scale down | 22:46 |
| rejon | and, I'm throwing you curveballs to field onto that wiki page | 22:47 |
| rrr_ | okay | 22:47 |
| rrr_ | wait, which wiki page? | 22:47 |
| tannewt | rejon, dont you mean you want things to mark other mediums with licenses? just like the cc buttons can already be used on webpages? | 22:47 |
| rejon | exactly | 22:48 |
| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Marking | 22:48 |
| rejon | Right, here is the large scale idea of Marking project | 22:48 |
| rejon | http://creativecommons.org/license right now is purely focused on CC licensing content for the web | 22:49 |
| rrr_ | okay so i should be posting this stuff to the public wiki? | 22:49 |
| rejon | y | 22:49 |
| rejon | this is super-public | 22:49 |
| rrr_ | got it | 22:49 |
| rejon | dude, cameronparkins, this rkelly album has 75% massive cheese on it | 22:49 |
| rejon | rrr_: so, the idea is that we need these cc official marking media for anyone to use for each of the primary 6 cc licenses | 22:50 |
| rrr_ | right | 22:50 |
| rejon | and then, we need a mockup of the cc license page that uses the new licensor alex has created to interface wit these | 22:51 |
| cameronparkins | rejon, massive cheese? | 22:51 |
| rejon | yah | 22:51 |
| cameronparkins | what is massive cheese | 22:51 |
| cameronparkins | like, massive awesomeness? | 22:51 |
| cameronparkins | because then i agree | 22:51 |
| cameronparkins | or massive cheese, like, oh man not another line about being in the VIP | 22:52 |
| bovinity | rejon, do you think the icons font should include the category icons, http://creativecommons.org/images/categories/audio.png | 22:53 |
| rejon | rrr_: I'm talking about http://creativecommons.org/license and the new one on labt | 22:53 |
| rejon | bse: man, those are so old | 22:53 |
| rejon | they don't fit into our design ethos | 22:53 |
| rejon | ;) | 22:54 |
| bovinity | rather | 22:54 |
| frame | good evening everyone - I'd like to (re-)introduce myself to the team (I got lost a few weeks ago, but found my way back :) | 22:55 |
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| tvol | whoa looks like from another era | 22:55 |
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| bovinity | old school cc. | 22:55 |
| cameronparkins | dude, that is vintage - you could start a new trend | 22:56 |
| cameronparkins | do you think that will ever happen, like vintage computing stuff | 22:56 |
| cameronparkins | probably already has | 22:56 |
| tvol | oh hell yes | 22:56 |
| bovinity | like the Wii and its virtual console stuff? | 22:56 |
| tannewt | frame, go ahead | 22:56 |
| cameronparkins | kind of | 22:56 |
| cameronparkins | more like | 22:56 |
| bovinity | or making C64's rad again | 22:56 |
| cameronparkins | well they have lways been rad | 22:57 |
| cameronparkins | im thinking like | 22:57 |
| cameronparkins | getting an old pc and getting on the net through prodigy | 22:57 |
| cameronparkins | do you guys remember prodigy? | 22:57 |
| frame | I talked to rejon a few weeks back. Basically I got PHP/MySQL/HTML exp. since ~8 years+ | 22:57 |
| cameronparkins | and that being like, the cool thing - dude email me at cameron@prodigy.com | 22:57 |
| cameronparkins | and people think that is cool - i wonder if that would ever take off | 22:57 |
| tannewt | frame, nice | 22:58 |
| frame | I run my own Biz since 2000, so I do have control over my time. This year I wanted to finally start and return to the OSS community what helped me to get where I am today. and what could be more at the heart of OSS than CC :) | 22:58 |
| rrr_ | bse, rejon: how do people feel about the acronyms (CC-BY-SA) at times when icons aren't doable? | 22:58 |
| cameronparkins | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prodigy_%28ISP%29 | 22:58 |
| bovinity | we had prodigy | 22:59 |
| bovinity | compuserve.. lol.. | 22:59 |
| frame | so, this is were rejon and me left off: I did checkout cctool and am still looking at the source. | 23:00 |
| tannewt | frame, which project? | 23:01 |
| frame | and on a personal note - this very nickname was camped by me for 2 years and today I managed to talk a staffer into releasing it at nickserv :) VERY good day today :) | 23:01 |
| cameronparkins | hahahaha compuserve! thats what im talking about | 23:01 |
| cameronparkins | anyway, enough of that | 23:01 |
| tannewt | frame, thats exciting | 23:01 |
| frame | tannewt: sorry, cchost ofcourse. | 23:01 |
| tannewt | frame, ah | 23:02 |
| tannewt | frame, what do you think so far? | 23:03 |
| frame | I did know ccMixter from a user side before I even knew what ccHost was. | 23:04 |
| frame | read: listening to the playlists. :) no uploading, creating. | 23:06 |
| tannewt | frame, right | 23:06 |
| frame | but I do see the need for a good music collaboration tool. it's important to keep the originals with variants. well for me it is. | 23:07 |
| tannewt | frame, yeah, I agree | 23:07 |
| frame | tech wise I can't really say that much yet, except that the code is pretty and readable :) | 23:09 |
| tannewt | frame, good, I looked at it a couple of months ago and was utterly confused because I had never seen event-driven PHP | 23:12 |
| frame | hahaha yeah! that detail also made me wonder :) | 23:13 |
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| frame | however most stuff at cclib/ is straight forward. | 23:15 |
| tannewt | frame, thats good | 23:15 |
| frame | do you know how old the overall project is? | 23:17 |
| tannewt | cchost? | 23:17 |
| frame | yep | 23:17 |
| tannewt | nope | 23:17 |
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| frame | wb rejon | 23:23 |
| frame | what are you working on tannewt? PHP I guess? | 23:23 |
| tannewt | frame, actually, I'm working on liblicense | 23:23 |
| tannewt | C and python | 23:23 |
| tannewt | frame, http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Liblicense | 23:24 |
| frame | ah yes! remember I read about it when browsing for details on cchost. | 23:25 |
| tannewt | :-) | 23:26 |
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| tannewt | rejon, it may be a prime time to start a free culture group at UW, they just sent a notice to all the students warning that the RIAA is coming | 23:44 |
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| frame | nite! nice talking to you tannewt. cya :) | 23:57 |
| tannewt | frame, you too, bye | 23:57 |
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