| rejon | its gonna be a bit of hacking on those pieces | 00:37 |
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| rejon | lots hacking | 00:42 |
| rejon | lotsa | 00:42 |
| * paulproteus|jhu grins | 00:43 | |
| paulproteus|jhu | That's, uh, wonderful. | 00:43 |
| paulproteus|jhu | What list were you talking about? | 00:43 |
| rejon | cctools-cchost@ | 00:45 |
| rejon | end call | 00:45 |
| rejon | Yah, ppl. love to give tasks to the developers | 00:45 |
| rejon | ;) | 00:45 |
| paulproteus|jhu | Oh, that picture thing. | 00:46 |
| rejon | Yah, perfect example of setting up the roadmap | 00:46 |
| * paulproteus|jhu is looking at Elizabeth's screenshot | 00:46 | |
| rejon | Yah, try to architect any changes as extensions | 00:46 |
| rejon | http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/cchost/docs/ | 00:47 |
| rejon | very useful | 00:47 |
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| paulproteus|jhu | Heya e-star. | 00:49 |
| rejon | heya | 00:50 |
| e-star | paulproteus|jhu, rejon: hiya | 00:50 |
| e-star | i've been bad about being on freenode lately | 00:50 |
| e-star | heh | 00:50 |
| paulproteus|jhu | We've missed you! (-: | 00:51 |
| e-star | so i should hang out here more often | 00:54 |
| e-star | rejon: i still need to tell you more about my proposed project to change the face of free music | 00:54 |
| tannewt | e-star, I'm curious | 00:55 |
| dpkp | give it a smiley face, not a frowny face | 00:55 |
| e-star | whoa, dpkp, that you? | 00:55 |
| e-star | tannewt: basically, the *quality* of free music | 00:56 |
| e-star | ha | 00:56 |
| rejon | paulproteus|jhu: Yah, email the cchost-cctools list (on sf.net/projects/cctools) about any issues, for pointers, etc | 00:56 |
| rejon | e-start: cool...I gotta help gf ...bbiab...ahhhhhh | 00:56 |
| tannewt | e-star, how so? | 00:56 |
| rejon | pulled in 50 directions :) | 00:56 |
| e-star | okay | 00:57 |
| dpkp | yep, its good ol me | 00:57 |
| dpkp | coding a greasemonkey script, haning on irc | 00:57 |
| dpkp | er, hanging | 00:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | dpkp, Nice, greasemonkey is my hero. | 00:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | What are you working on? | 00:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | I mean, what does it intend to do? | 00:57 |
| dpkp | i'm gonna fix emusic | 00:57 |
| dpkp | lol | 00:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | Really? | 00:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | dpkp, 'Cause I have a desktop app that does this. (-; | 00:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | http://svn.asheesh.org/svn/public/code/emusic/ | 00:58 |
| e-star | tannewt: we have connections with people making good music in at least certain genres | 00:58 |
| dpkp | does what? | 00:58 |
| paulproteus|jhu | Anyway, going to get food, be back in a bit. | 00:58 |
| tannewt | e-star, thats cool, whats your project doing? | 00:58 |
| dpkp | ahh, and emusic download manager | 01:00 |
| dpkp | nice | 01:00 |
| e-star | tannewt: the idea is to convince artists that we know making cool music and people from various labels to license their music freely, but in an environment that is more focused on curating good music/image/etc. and that puts cc somewhat in the background | 01:01 |
| e-star | tannewt: tapping into music bloggers --there is a quite rapidly growing communities | 01:01 |
| tannewt | e-star, thats neat, check out http://mdn.wikidot.com for my project | 01:02 |
| e-star | tannewt: working with labels around the world to feature some of their music on the site, organizing parties, and, yes, selling vinyl (and possibly mix cds) | 01:02 |
| tannewt | nice! | 01:02 |
| e-star | tannewt: interesting. ours is very top-down curation in a sense | 01:03 |
| tannewt | e-star, hmm | 01:03 |
| e-star | well | 01:03 |
| e-star | record labels still fuction very well for aggregation/tastemaker purposes in some communities | 01:04 |
| e-star | this is more of the electronic/indie/etc. scene | 01:04 |
| tannewt | ah | 01:04 |
| e-star | tannewt: are you familiar w/ the music blog scene at all? | 01:05 |
| tannewt | e-star, not really but a friend of mine who is working on the project with me runs her own | 01:06 |
| e-star | tannewt: i'm pretty fascinated by it these days | 01:06 |
| tannewt | e-star, oh yeah, whats cool about it? | 01:07 |
| e-star | tannewt: music bloggers can wield enormous influence | 01:07 |
| e-star | if an artist's song gets posted on certain blogs, they get a huge amount of exposure | 01:07 |
| e-star | (granted, huge here may not be the same as huge for other communities) | 01:08 |
| tannewt | right | 01:08 |
| e-star | also, one can find a large amount of really good music only via music blogs | 01:08 |
| e-star | but, it's pretty much all (c) | 01:08 |
| tannewt | right | 01:08 |
| e-star | i started a music blog of my own recently | 01:08 |
| e-star | and started getting emails from labels that wanted to send me promos! | 01:08 |
| tannewt | nice! | 01:09 |
| tannewt | how'd they find out about you? | 01:09 |
| e-star | other people linking to me probably | 01:09 |
| tannewt | ah | 01:09 |
| e-star | haha, the wonders of the internet | 01:09 |
| rejon | cool...what's the URL? | 01:09 |
| tannewt | yup :-) | 01:09 |
| rejon | yah, e-star, this is a great idea! | 01:09 |
| rejon | check out http://cchits.ning.com | 01:09 |
| rejon | they have an interesting model | 01:09 |
| e-star | rejon: yes i've seen it | 01:10 |
| rejon | I think digg.com-like service would be good | 01:10 |
| rejon | also, the idea for one of my projects, http://overlap.org | 01:10 |
| e-star | rejon: but we're going to be the music blog of labels..or something | 01:10 |
| rejon | but more local | 01:10 |
| rejon | cool | 01:10 |
| e-star | rejon: this isn't really a community decides site, but it's a community provides feedback type of thing | 01:10 |
| rejon | all I can say is implement it fast | 01:10 |
| rejon | yep | 01:10 |
| e-star | rejon: yes, but we're releasing original music | 01:11 |
| rejon | great | 01:11 |
| e-star | rejon: so we need to get artists on board | 01:11 |
| e-star | rejon: so it's not that easy | 01:11 |
| rejon | yep | 01:11 |
| e-star | rejon: because we need to convince the people we like to do it | 01:11 |
| rejon | I say fast, because its needed and comes up all the time in the office | 01:11 |
| rejon | ;) | 01:11 |
| e-star | yup | 01:11 |
| rejon | a good domain to take up and conquer | 01:11 |
| e-star | rejon: we have a lot of dj/musician friends | 01:12 |
| rejon | great | 01:12 |
| e-star | rejon: my partner in this is the manager of the largest distributor of electronic music | 01:12 |
| e-star | rejon: in the US | 01:12 |
| rejon | cool...ohm? | 01:12 |
| rejon | om | 01:13 |
| e-star | rejon: vinyl | 01:13 |
| e-star | rejon: at least i think they're the largest.. | 01:13 |
| e-star | rejon: my answer to the existential crisis that i can't find any cc music i like is to convince people whose music i do like to release it CC | 01:15 |
| e-star | rejon: also, i want it to be by-sa only, but we'll see | 01:15 |
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| rejon | cool | 01:22 |
| e-star | rejon: sometimes if you don't give people a choice, it's better | 01:23 |
| e-star | heh | 01:23 |
| dpkp | you heard it hear first (pun intended) | 01:52 |
| dpkp | http://www.slothlovechunk.org/emusicplayer.user.js | 01:52 |
| dpkp | only tested on ff 2.0 / mac | 01:52 |
| dpkp | now its time to get my saturday, uh, started :) | 01:53 |
| paulproteus|jhu | e-star, Good answer re: existential crises. | 01:55 |
| paulproteus|jhu | dpkp, Ew, you like Flash? | 01:55 |
| paulproteus|jhu | I mean, nice hack. | 01:55 |
| paulproteus|jhu | dpkp, My download manager lets you queue downloads. | 01:55 |
| paulproteus|jhu | Just add them to "Save for later", and then run my app once monthly to "Save from later". | 01:55 |
| paulproteus|jhu | "Save for later" is a feature of the eMusic web site, so I don't need greasemonkey stuff. (-: | 01:56 |
| dpkp | just reworked the delicious playtagger | 01:56 |
| dpkp | which i find very useful | 01:56 |
| dpkp | yea, looking at your code | 01:56 |
| dpkp | right, i use save for later in a similar way | 01:57 |
| dpkp | but not entirely - because you need to calculate a track sum = 90 (or whatever) | 01:57 |
| dpkp | so it always involves creative choices at download time | 01:57 |
| dpkp | unless i want a partial album | 01:57 |
| dpkp | which i dont | 01:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | Oh, interesting. | 01:57 |
| paulproteus|jhu | I just let partial albums happen, 'cause next month I'll get the rest. | 01:58 |
| dpkp | but anyways - i was just trying to solve the "listening to sample tracks sucks" problem | 01:58 |
| e-star | paulproteus|jhu: thanks | 01:58 |
| dpkp | which probably isn't a problem if you ditch the web interface altogether | 01:59 |
| dpkp | but i'm not willing to go that far just yet | 01:59 |
| * paulproteus|jhu grins | 01:59 | |
| dpkp | plus it gave me a chance to learn greasemonkey | 02:00 |
| dpkp | :) | 02:00 |
| paulproteus|jhu | I've been meaning to start truly hacking the web apart with Greasemonkey one of these days. | 02:05 |
| rejon | but greasemonkey feels like fixing problems but not sending patches, or not being able to send patches upstream | 02:08 |
| rejon | at least for me | 02:08 |
| dpkp | only if you don't release your userscript to the world | 02:09 |
| paulproteus|jhu | rejon, Welcome to the hellish world of web apps. | 02:09 |
| dpkp | but like any patch, the upstream provider is free to accept or reject | 02:09 |
| rejon | true | 02:10 |
| paulproteus|jhu | Have I mentioned that I think relying on hosted, esp. proprietary (but not even necessarily) web applications are terrible for software freedom? | 02:10 |
| rejon | are there cases where upstream has taken greasemonkey scripts | 02:10 |
| rejon | that would be cool | 02:10 |
| dpkp | it would be cool | 02:10 |
| dpkp | sometimes the fixes can be incorporated more easily via straight html changes | 02:11 |
| dpkp | othertimes the changes can't be done at all - e.g., w/ off-site xmlhttp calls | 02:11 |
| dpkp | although they could theoretically be done server-side | 02:12 |
| dpkp | but thats way beyond simple "patching" | 02:12 |
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| dpkp | woot: http://www.emusic.com/messageboard/viewTopic.html?topicId=8711 | 03:05 |
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| rejon | good boy | 04:29 |
| rejon | dana | 04:29 |
| rejon | Added gnome-vfs patch by Ed Catmur so we can save/open/export to non-local | 04:33 |
| rejon | GNOME-VFS URIs. We could do before on commandline, but this allows us to with | 04:33 |
| rejon | the gui! Yeah! This is useful for the plans for webdav and Open Clip Art Library. | 04:33 |
| rejon | + {"fit-page-to-drawing", 'S', | 04:33 |
| rejon | + POPT_ARG_NONE, &sp_export_bbox_page, SP_ARG_FIT_PAGE_TO_DRAWING, | 04:33 |
| rejon | + N_("Fits page to drawing and saves changes in place"), | 04:33 |
| rejon | + NULL}, | 04:33 |
| rejon | + | 04:33 |
| WillySilly | most excellent | 04:45 |
| rejon | oops | 04:45 |
| rejon | wrong window | 04:46 |
| WillySilly | haha | 04:46 |
| rejon | adding patches to inkscape | 04:46 |
| rejon | bbyak: are you going to check this one out? | 04:53 |
| rejon | can I assign it to you? | 04:53 |
| rejon | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1634104&group_id=93438&atid=604308 | 04:53 |
| cchelpbot | Patch #1634104: Blur scale remapping; Resolution: None; Date Submitted: 2007-01-12 06:46; Submitted By: Daniel Pope; Assigned To: Nobody/Anonymous; Priority: 5; Status: Open | 04:53 |
| rejon | gosh...wrong window | 04:53 |
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| paulproteus|jhu | Why buy one when you can buy two at twice the price? | 06:26 |
| paulproteus|jhu | Why buy one when you can buy two at twice the price? | 06:26 |
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