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| WillySilly | “Open source software is like free trade, and the invisible hand of the market has the mouse now.” | 01:10 |
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| bigcx2 | hey everyone | 02:37 |
| bigcx2 | i have what i think is a relatively simple question | 02:37 |
| bigcx2 | i'm going to be working on a project for a company who is contracting me out to do the work | 02:38 |
| bigcx2 | and i was thinking of using a cc license for the code | 02:38 |
| WillySilly | cc isnt really for code | 02:38 |
| WillySilly | you'd use GPL/LGPL/etc for code | 02:39 |
| bigcx2 | well | 02:39 |
| bigcx2 | my stipulations are we would like it to be open source, but we don't want any of our competitors to be able to use the code | 02:40 |
| bigcx2 | any suggestions? | 02:40 |
| WillySilly | thats not very open | 02:40 |
| WillySilly | open is allowing the use of your code | 02:40 |
| bigcx2 | what i mean is...people can do derivative works...just not for commercial purposes | 02:40 |
| bigcx2 | is that not feasible? | 02:41 |
| WillySilly | hmm | 02:41 |
| WillySilly | What license have you check out so far? | 02:41 |
| bigcx2 | i glanced over a bunch but i kinda wanted a more experienced opinion | 02:42 |
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| WillySilly | bigcx2: maybe you could use the GPl with an exception clause saying that the code cannot be used for commercial purposes? | 02:46 |
| bigcx2 | hmm | 02:47 |
| WillySilly | that might make it GPL incompatible, though | 02:51 |
| WillySilly | dont quote me on that | 02:55 |
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| bigcx2 | yea i'm having a hard time figuring it out | 02:57 |
| mlinksva | bigcx2, what you want isn't open source, and cc licenses aren't for source, so you'll need to make up your own license, or modify an existing one (but your modifications will almost certainly make it incompatible). alternatively recorsider just using the GPL, many successful businesses (e.g., mysql) have done so | 03:00 |
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| NeAs | any one with ccs? | 16:18 |
| BjornW | ccs? | 16:43 |
| NeAs | ye | 16:50 |
| paulproteus | NeAs, Do you mean "Creative Commons"? | 16:51 |
| paulproteus | NeAs, What does "ccs" mean? | 16:51 |
| rejon | credit cards | 16:51 |
| rejon | read the topic NeAs | 16:52 |
| rejon | BjornW: yo yo | 17:01 |
| rejon | how can we get cchost sample pool api into simuze.nl | 17:01 |
| BjornW | rejon: first question is, we don't use any wav files only mp3. Is this usable for ccmixter? | 17:02 |
| rejon | yes, of course | 17:02 |
| rejon | can still convert that sucker to cchost ;) | 17:03 |
| rejon | just get allt he plugins for free ;) | 17:03 |
| rejon | all the things you want are in there now | 17:03 |
| rejon | the flashplayer, xspf, and more ;) | 17:03 |
| rejon | oh, also, got your dvd/cd too yesterday btw | 17:03 |
| rejon | good stuff | 17:03 |
| rejon | looks great | 17:03 |
| BjornW | rejon: I got the impression from Victor that he wasn't particular interested in mp3 files | 17:03 |
| BjornW | rejon: so now you're a sales guy ;) | 17:04 |
| rejon | ha | 17:04 |
| rejon | in some ways | 17:04 |
| rejon | yah, my new gig is community developer | 17:04 |
| rejon | half community / half bizdev for cc | 17:04 |
| BjornW | rejon: good to hear! Personally I like the music more than the clips, but that's a matter of taste I guess ;) | 17:04 |
| rejon | Yeah, lets call it sales | 17:04 |
| rejon | yah, in the end more important to network installations IMO | 17:05 |
| BjornW | rejon: either way one has to convince people ;) | 17:05 |
| rejon | this is true | 17:05 |
| rejon | where are you working now? | 17:05 |
| BjornW | rejon: from my office :) | 17:05 |
| BjornW | BjornW: rejon been doing tons of freelance stuff | 17:06 |
| BjornW | rejon: mostly wordpress related | 17:06 |
| rejon | cool | 17:06 |
| rejon | good to know | 17:07 |
| rejon | we have a bunch of projects coming up | 17:07 |
| BjornW | rejon: Hopefully I get some time to work on some other stuff as well | 17:07 |
| rejon | yah, tis always the hope ;) | 17:07 |
| BjornW | rejon: He is cchost already on xspf.org? | 17:07 |
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| rejon | no, but it should | 17:07 |
| rejon | could you help get it up on there | 17:07 |
| BjornW | rejon: gimme a sec and I try if I can use my account :) | 17:08 |
| rejon | there is info on cchost for copy/past: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/cchost | 17:08 |
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| rejon | hi dorileo | 17:11 |
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| BjornW | rejon: account has some issues. Trying to fix it now ;) | 17:27 |
| rejon | ok | 17:27 |
| BjornW | Btw did I tell you simuze has a streaming server? | 17:28 |
| BjornW | rejon: can you tell me a bit more about the XSPF handling in ccHost? Btw the account works ;) | 17:37 |
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| BjornW | Hi bovinity | 17:39 |
| rejon | yah, basically, where you can get feeds you can replace rss | 17:39 |
| rejon | with xspf | 17:39 |
| rejon | wrd | 17:39 |
| bovinity | halllo | 17:39 |
| rejon | basic | 17:39 |
| rejon | but needs to be expanded | 17:39 |
| BjornW | rejon: ok, and can I link to http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Cchost from xspf.org? | 17:40 |
| rejon | yep | 17:40 |
| rejon | you can use short | 17:40 |
| rejon | cchost | 17:40 |
| rejon | i mean instead of Cchost | 17:40 |
| BjornW | rejon: ok | 17:40 |
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| BjornW | rejon: is there a changelog where I can point to for XSPF support being announced? | 17:44 |
| rejon | hmmm | 17:45 |
| rejon | yah, in the 3.0 release notes | 17:45 |
| rejon | 1 sec | 17:45 |
| BjornW | rejon: ok | 17:45 |
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| BjornW | rejon: ? | 18:03 |
| rejon | what up | 18:03 |
| rejon | oh yeah | 18:03 |
| rejon | 150 secs | 18:03 |
| BjornW | rejon: :) anyway, I need to get this online before I go. Is xspf also enabled on ccmixter? | 18:04 |
| rejon | http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=445818&group_id=80503 | 18:05 |
| rejon | yah | 18:05 |
| rejon | that points to xspf added | 18:05 |
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| rejon | XSPF 1.0 Playlist Support ------------------------- We now have support for the xspf playlist standard as a feed. | 18:05 |
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| rejon | ok, pce | 18:05 |
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| evanpro | my spidey senses are tingling | 20:04 |
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| rejon | ha | 20:23 |
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| rejon | BjornW: Cool to have sparked that discussion | 22:31 |
| BjornW | rejon: np, I recently started helping out xspf and noticed that you guys weren't mentioned. So I fixed it :) | 22:34 |
| rejon | cool...would be good to mention elsewhere | 22:34 |
| rejon | good to blog | 22:34 |
| BjornW | rejon: yep. I'm actually having some extra plans with xspf, but I haven;t written it in English :( | 22:35 |
| rejon | oh yeah, that ;) | 22:35 |
| BjornW | rejon: I would love to combine: Democracy Player + XSPF + ccMixter + Jamendo + Simuze + Video + Images + Tekst basically a media player with the possibility to create your own media (using xspf) and distributing it via bittorent (hence Democracy Player) | 22:37 |
| BjornW | rejon: this would solve the problem with becoming too popular and bandwidth costs growing over your head ;) | 22:37 |
| BjornW | rejon: I made a better, longer description in Dutch and hope to write it in English soon.. | 22:38 |
| BjornW | rejon: anyway, got to get some sleep. Talk to you later about Simuze and ccMixter | 22:39 |
| rejon | yah, this guy is developing an app something like that | 22:40 |
| rejon | he contacted me the other day | 22:40 |
| rejon | http://www.mukund.org/blog/127/ | 22:41 |
| rejon | but, why not just hack on democracy | 22:41 |
| rejon | its open source | 22:41 |
| rejon | add what you want | 22:41 |
| rejon | they have a creativecommons channel that ships on that by default | 22:41 |
| rejon | I'm friends with their lead dev | 22:41 |
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| rejon | http://wikevent.org/ | 23:19 |
| rejon | did you guys see | 23:19 |
| rejon | not much info | 23:19 |
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