Tuesday, 2006-07-25

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tannewthi all06:52
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ST{LOON}how do I find out the length of an array?07:23
ST{LOON}I'm looping through all the args with for, and I need a condition to use for it07:23
tannewtST{LOON}, in what language?07:24
paulproteusST{LOON}, This is not ##c.07:24
ST{LOON}X07:24
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ST{LOON}ah07:24
ST{LOON}eh?07:24
paulproteusYou prefer to discuss the C programming language in the channel that is about it, ##c. (-:07:24
tannewt:-)07:24
ST{LOON}channel typo XD07:24
paulproteusST{LOON}, No problem.07:24
ST{LOON};)07:24
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paulproteusI private-messaged him a link to the CC "Get Creative" flash movie.07:26
tannewtnice :-)07:33
tannewtbrb07:34
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Lukemlinksva: you around?09:13
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mlinksvaLuke, now i am14:33
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supersid_anyone here know anything about lzw?14:36
BjornWsupersid_: if you mean the compression algo, I would advise to look on wikipedia or Google or be a bit more specific :)15:04
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Lukehey nathany are you going to Ohio LinuxFest?15:55
nathanywhen is it?15:57
nathanyoh, end of sept15:58
nathanymaybe15:58
Lukeyup15:58
Lukebrb15:59
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dzrnathany: hi nathan, i have a problem with wpLicense and wordpress 2.0.3 on php 417:15
dzrnathany: on php 5 on my worstation the plugin works fine17:15
dzrnathany: but on my hosting service where my blog is they're running php4 and I get this error: "Parse error: parse error, unexpected '{' in /home/brierton/public_html/people/darren/blog/wp-content/plugins/wpLicense/ccwsclient.php on line 16"17:16
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Lukenathany: how did you do testing for your verification library?17:24
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dzrnathany: hi nathan, did you seem my previous question about wpLicense before your connection got reset?17:27
nathanyno, i didn't17:27
nathanywhat's up?17:27
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dzrnathany: I just upgraded to wpLicense 0.6.0, tried it on my workstation running PHP5 on Fedora Core 4 and it worked just fine; uploaded to my hosting service where my blog is where they're running PHP4 and I get this error: "Parse error: parse error, unexpected '{' in /path/to/blog/wp-content/plugins/wpLicense/ccwsclient.php on line 16"17:31
nathanyhrm17:31
dzrI also see the same error reported on the cc-devel list here: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-devel/2006-July/000156.html17:32
nathanyright... give me a second to look at that... my php-foo isn't as good as it could be17:32
dzrFWIW I can't see anythng wrong with ccwsclient.php at all17:33
Lukenathany: when you get a chance, how did you do testing for your verification library? Nunit?17:36
nathanydzr: well there is a problem -- PHP4 doesn't support try blocks17:37
dzrnathany: oh wait, "try { ... } catch { ... }" is PHP5 only.17:37
nathanyright17:38
dzrheh17:38
paulproteusPHP is hilarious.17:38
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nathanydzr: interested in a test build w/o the PHP5-isms?17:46
dzrnathany: sure, you beat me to it, I was just reading up to see if I could provude a patch myself17:47
nathanybasically we just look and see that the file_get_contents returns null or false if unsuccessful17:48
nathanyso just testing the result instead of catching an exception17:48
dzrright, so you're just going back to the PHP4 way of doing it17:49
nathanyyeah17:49
nathanydzr: http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/software/wplicense/download/wpLicense-0.6.1.zip17:51
nathanylet me know if that works better for you17:51
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dzrthanks nathan, I'll get it now and let you know in the next ten mins or so17:51
nathanythanks17:51
nathanyLuke: testing for...?17:52
nathanywhich verification library?17:52
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Lukenathany: for your rdfextractor library17:54
nathanythe tests that exist are just Python unittests (Nunit is C#, right?)... but not as many tests as there should be for that17:56
Lukeso you used unit testing then?17:56
nathanyyeah... been a while since i poked at that, i think the tests I wrote were mostly to verify error conditions17:58
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dzrnathany: success! tested under PHP 5.0.4 and 4.3.10, everything works just fine18:01
nathanythanks, dzr -- i'll announce the release and update the wiki18:02
dzrtested: removing, adding, changing, etc. used all the functions I could think of18:02
dzrBTW, remember to bump the version number, in the WP Plugins admin area it still shows up as 0.6.018:02
dzrThanks very much for the speedy fix Nathan.18:03
Lukenathany: ok thanks =)18:04
nathanynp18:04
nathanyah, thanks, dzr18:04
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Lukenathany: btw did you see I uploaded my cc-sharp to SF? I dont know if I pointed that out to you yet18:05
nathanyyeah, i saw it in come through the commit list18:06
nathanyhaven't looked at it at all yet18:06
Lukeah =)18:06
Lukelet me know if you have any suggestions when you look at it ok?18:07
nathanysure18:08
paulproteusWhoa, there's a commit list that I've been embarrassing myself on every few minutes?18:09
paulproteusOops.18:09
Lukepaulproteus: hahahaha18:10
bovinityand immortalised through "svn log" ;)18:12
nathanypaulproteus: don't worry, i only laugh a little :)18:12
paulproteusThe immortalised bit I already knew about. (-:18:12
paulproteusThta's why rejon kept talking about "micro-commits".  I was like, what, are you running "svn log" every few minutes?18:14
nathanyrejon just has far too much time on his hands18:15
nathany:)18:15
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tannewthi all18:54
paulproteusMornin'.18:56
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Dr-Linux|workhi all19:05
Dr-Linux|workhi mlinksva19:05
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Lukepaulproteus: you were totally right about the unit testing stuff. I redesigned the API to make unit testing easier and cut my code size in half22:30
Lukeits so clean now =)22:30
Lukewent from 3 instance classes to 2 static classes22:31
paulproteusLuke, Nice!22:31
paulproteusThat's fantastic!22:31
Lukealso it forced me to ask some questions that lead to me finding a faster way to parse the XML =)22:31
Lukei'm so excited you told me about unit testing22:31
paulproteusGeez, that's like a dream come true.22:31
Lukethanks22:31
Lukehahaha22:31
Lukeit is22:31
paulproteusI just started using unit tests a few months ago in my own code.22:31
Lukei knew you were right so I worked real hard at it22:32
Lukei worked hard to make my API work better with it22:32
* paulproteus gives Luke a high-five22:33
Lukehahaha22:33
Lukewell i'm going out to eat with my girlfriend. I just wanted to jump on and say thanks22:33
paulproteusGlad to hear it.  Have fun!22:33
Lukeyou too +D22:34
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