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| luisv | anyone else happen to know if the source (gimp? photoshop? inkscape?) of http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Image:Podcasting_legal_guide.png is available somewhere? | 15:30 |
| luisv | I'd like to mess with it for the berkman homepage announce of the project | 15:31 |
| nathany | Alex might have it... probably photoshop (just guessing) | 15:36 |
| nathany | alex at creativecommons dot org | 15:36 |
| luisv | thanks, nathan | 15:36 |
| luisv | any good SOC proposals yet? | 15:36 |
| nathany | yeah... not exactly an overwhelming torrent, but a couple i think will be interesting | 15:37 |
| luisv | cool | 15:37 |
| nathany | yeah, we may have someone continuing the work (ok, starting) that i talked to Aaron about in Boston... we'll see what the consensus is | 15:38 |
| luisv | good luck with that | 15:39 |
| luisv | wish I had a bit more time to lobby/nudge people in that direction | 15:39 |
| luisv | hard to get people to focus sometimes on things that aren't there core interest :/ | 15:39 |
| nathany | right | 15:40 |
| nathany | well now that i'm done with school, i hope to have a few more hours (at least) to do interesting CC things | 15:40 |
| luisv | cool | 15:41 |
| luisv | will you be joining CC full-time, or finding something else interesting? | 15:41 |
| nathany | All CC, All the Time :) | 15:43 |
| luisv | cool, congrats on that | 15:44 |
| nathany | thanks | 15:44 |
| luisv | and on graduation, of course | 15:44 |
| nathany | of course :) | 15:44 |
| luisv | very good to find something you're passionate about to do after school; I really enjoyed my stint at Ximian, all things considered | 15:44 |
| nathany | (in a way its a bit anti-climactic... not like this is the start of my career or anything) | 15:44 |
| nathany | yeah, i had several interviews/offers, but really like what I'm doing @ CC | 15:45 |
| luisv | <nod> | 15:45 |
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| luisv | speaking of the devil ;) | 15:45 |
| luisv | mlinksva: you need to work on your reflexes; it took a full 17 minutes between my summoning and your response. | 15:46 |
| luisv | :) | 15:46 |
| nathany | luisv: i'm off... i'll keep you updated re: gnome + cc stuff | 15:48 |
| luisv | nathany: no problem; I've not got much time to keep up, unfortunately, either way | 15:48 |
| luisv | but let me know if there is something I can do | 15:48 |
| nathany | sounds good... | 15:48 |
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| mlinksva | luisv, when i'm not online i have someone who is check #cc every 34 minutes to see if anyone had pinged me and call me if so, so your response time is average :) | 15:49 |
| luisv | hehe | 15:49 |
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| john_jimmy | hey mlinksva | 16:11 |
| mlinksva | hi john_jimmy | 16:12 |
| luisv | hi, JoiIto | 16:13 |
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| santu4u | hai rejon | 16:40 |
| rejon | hi | 16:40 |
| rejon | wat is up? | 16:41 |
| santu4u | So, how did you like the idea | 16:41 |
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| rejon | i like it much | 16:42 |
| rejon | just make sure to make it reasonable | 16:42 |
| rejon | hi aphid | 16:42 |
| santu4u | Could it be a live cd rejon or just a Cd with CC media | 16:45 |
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| luisv | both would be valuable, each in different ways | 16:46 |
| rejon | agree | 16:47 |
| rejon | i posted to the list about this already | 16:47 |
| santu4u | I think we can combine the two if that would add value | 16:47 |
| luisv | santu4u: a liveCD doesn't leave a whole ton of space for content, sadly | 16:48 |
| dranreb | perhaps a liveDVD? | 16:48 |
| rejon | basically a livecd is good to promote open source and open content and a theopencd.net-like is great to transition ppl. to opencontent | 16:48 |
| rejon | yeah, that would be cool | 16:48 |
| rejon | i believe there are already submissions for a livecd, so this type would be great | 16:49 |
| dranreb | icic | 16:49 |
| rejon | just make sure to specify how you are going to do this, what infrastructure is necessary | 16:50 |
| dranreb | okies | 16:50 |
| rejon | also, make sure to be realistic | 16:50 |
| dranreb | anybody submitted for MozCC? | 16:50 |
| rejon | use what infrastructure already exists with cc | 16:50 |
| luisv | rejon: did you ever get my posts/questions about installing licenses by default? | 16:50 |
| rejon | y | 16:50 |
| rejon | luisv: yes | 16:50 |
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| luisv | okeydokey, wasn't sure they'd gone through | 16:50 |
| rejon | luisv: your comments are awesome, I've just been swamped with end of semester craziness | 16:50 |
| luisv | no problem | 16:50 |
| rejon | luisv: it would be great if you took a swipe at adding some stubs for what you speak of | 16:51 |
| rejon | are you gonna come down for the ccsalon this wed? | 16:51 |
| luisv | I'd love to, but jaunting out to SF for a salon is sadly a bit out of budget ;) | 16:51 |
| luisv | and stanford and berkeley rejected me :) | 16:52 |
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| rejon | hahaha | 16:59 |
| rejon | luisv: i thought you lived in the south bay | 16:59 |
| luisv | sadly, no | 16:59 |
| luisv | boston | 17:00 |
| rejon | oops | 17:00 |
| luisv | would kill to live someplace warmer | 17:00 |
| luisv | will settle for NYC | 17:00 |
| rejon | ok, will hopefully be there for siggraph (pending) | 17:00 |
| rejon | ok...guys, i have to run | 17:00 |
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| luisv | ttyl | 17:00 |
| dranreb | c ya | 17:00 |
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| john_jimmy | luisv, sorry disconnected | 17:09 |
| luisv | no problem | 17:10 |
| john_jimmy | so | 17:11 |
| john_jimmy | How much content are we talking about? Are we posting movies or pics and MP3s? | 17:11 |
| luisv | presumably for maximum impact you want all three | 17:11 |
| luisv | in the gnome liveCD, we have one movie, a handful of pics, and several of the songs from the wired CD | 17:11 |
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| john_jimmy | be right back | 17:15 |
| john_jimmy | sorry my router just keeps disconnecting | 17:16 |
| john_jimmy | So, you already have GNOME liveCD? | 17:16 |
| john_jimmy | luisv, you there? | 17:18 |
| luisv | am working, so not paying attention to IRC all the time | 17:18 |
| luisv | there is a (slightly out of date) gnome liveCD based on ubuntu at torrent.gnome.org, I believe | 17:18 |
| luisv | which includes some CC-licensed content | 17:18 |
| john_jimmy | hmm | 17:18 |
| soumyadip | john_jimmy: put in your live cd proposal ? | 17:19 |
| luisv | but we couldn't fit very much, because of the contents of the rest of the CD | 17:20 |
| john_jimmy | No not exactly livecd, | 17:20 |
| john_jimmy | soumyadip, how about you | 17:20 |
| luisv | presumably a CC liveCD could remove some software in favor of more content | 17:20 |
| soumyadip | john_jimmy: I just did | 17:20 |
| john_jimmy | That's exactly what I was thinking | 17:22 |
| john_jimmy | Ideally you would have two run modes of the LiveCD a) boots directly into a demo screen (preferably the same thing the windows autorun would see) | 17:23 |
| john_jimmy | b) boots into a minimal Linux to demo some "CC compatable" apps | 17:24 |
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| luisv | then you're complexifying again, though | 17:25 |
| luisv | you're (1) asking people to make decisions at boot time about what they want, even though they don't know | 17:26 |
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| luisv | (2) introducing additional software complexity | 17:26 |
| santu4u | haha yes I guess I am... | 17:26 |
| santu4u | the main thing I'm concerned with is maintainability | 17:26 |
| luisv | (3) particularly with option (a) it isn't clear what advantage you get over just a plain dumb CD with content | 17:26 |
| luisv | is there a list of relevant windows apps that could be put on an opencd-like CD? | 17:27 |
| luisv | pretty short list, I'd assume? inkscape, ffox+mozcc... what else? | 17:27 |
| dranreb | blender | 17:28 |
| luisv | that seems like the limiting factor on an opencd-like option | 17:28 |
| santu4u | option (a) would be for full-proofing a demo system so that it is not reliant on any client software - that's all | 17:28 |
| luisv | yeah, just drivers ;) | 17:28 |
| luisv | if you want to fool-proof a demo system, just build static HTML pages and presume that any modern system has a browser | 17:29 |
| santu4u | Heh. I knew there was a reason I stopped using Windows... | 17:29 |
| luisv | and have the auto-run (on windows) boot into index.html | 17:29 |
| santu4u | true enough | 17:29 |
| luisv | you've still got the applications problem for consumption of music/video | 17:29 |
| santu4u | could make it more interactive than that and give it a pollished look. | 17:30 |
| santu4u | the main proble is media players and such | 17:30 |
| luisv | right | 17:30 |
| soumyadip | audacity ? | 17:30 |
| luisv | could pack in something flash-based, though proprietary ~= icky | 17:30 |
| santu4u | I've got a friend who is getting involved in that project | 17:30 |
| santu4u | but audacity is not a player it's more for creation | 17:31 |
| santu4u | that's like calling Gimp a viewer | 17:31 |
| * soumyadip thinks people will more likely use their OS's media players to play media files | 17:31 | |
| santu4u | I agree | 17:33 |
| santu4u | I'm thinking that the LiveCD would be more useful in presentation situations when you DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO BLOW UP | 17:33 |
| dranreb | if the cd is those 80mm type | 17:38 |
| dranreb | it would kinda cool, to mass duplicate it and give it to everyone | 17:38 |
| dranreb | as it fit just nice into the pocket | 17:38 |
| santu4u | It sounds like the main thing is generating a magazine type CD with rotating content every so often | 17:39 |
| santu4u | if the 80mm it can only contain media | 17:40 |
| dranreb | yarh true agree | 17:40 |
| santu4u | we're talking about 150mb I think | 17:40 |
| dranreb | hmmm | 17:43 |
| santu4u | but if we're talking about that size meida we could easily fit that much on a full liveCD as well | 17:43 |
| santu4u | Ideally you would want the same script to produce both CDs | 17:43 |
| dranreb | i think i get what u mean. | 17:46 |
| santu4u | again my main concern is maintainability | 17:48 |
| dranreb | okies okies | 17:49 |
| dranreb | by the way are u a mentor from CC? | 17:49 |
| santu4u | CC is not mainly a softwre foundation - while it isn't run by techno-idiots I'm sure that debugging a CD creation is not something that anyone really wants to face | 17:50 |
| santu4u | haha | 17:50 |
| luisv | indeed | 17:50 |
| santu4u | aplicant | 17:50 |
| luisv | maintainability is really, really important | 17:50 |
| dranreb | icic | 17:50 |
| dranreb | hehe | 17:50 |
| dranreb | true true | 17:50 |
| santu4u | that's what I've heard over and over the past few days as I've tried to put my proposal together | 17:51 |
| santu4u | so if maintenance is the issue it must be clearly understude what is being maintained before I can begin to make a proposal | 17:52 |
| santu4u | I've got six hours to go and I think I've got something now but still don't quite understand the main objective of CC with the CD project | 17:53 |
| dranreb | i guess it depends on the distribution method. | 17:54 |
| santu4u | now it's sounding like the main part is to use the LiveCD as a marketing tool | 17:54 |
| dranreb | it they going to mass produced it | 17:54 |
| dranreb | and spread it like toaster | 17:54 |
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| santu4u | it seems that "flying toasters" are exactly what they are looking for | 17:55 |
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| dranreb | heehee | 17:55 |
| dranreb | if you could get it fit into a mini CD, and have nice cool packaging to it. It would be really cool. | 17:56 |
| dranreb | Can start placing them around the place | 17:56 |
| santu4u | Well I'm a programmer not a shrink wrap consultant ! :-P | 17:57 |
| dranreb | :p | 17:57 |
| dranreb | which distro u planing on to use? | 17:57 |
| santu4u | probbably a Knoppix of some sort. I personally like Morphix | 18:01 |
| santu4u | are you in this SoC madhouse too? | 18:01 |
| dranreb | i am applying for MozCC | 18:01 |
| dranreb | u could try for dammsmalllinux | 18:02 |
| luisv | if you're looking for maintainability and upgradeability, I strongly recommend looking at ubuntu | 18:02 |
| santu4u | DSL is old hat but it's very tempermental | 18:03 |
| luisv | definitely some bloat/overhead, but they rev very reliably and have some very nice documentation and scritps | 18:03 |
| santu4u | I've got a Morphix that runs about as fast | 18:03 |
| santu4u | and it's just slightly larget in size | 18:03 |
| santu4u | I like the DSL use of Lua to replace Perl | 18:04 |
| santu4u | but here the main thing is not speed but maintainability | 18:04 |
| santu4u | Ubuntu is based on Knoppix as well | 18:06 |
| santu4u | they are both Debian based distros | 18:06 |
| soumyadip | santu4u: sorry can't agree with you there | 18:06 |
| soumyadip | ubuntu is different from knoppix | 18:06 |
| soumyadip | in fact, Debian developers don't like knoppix, because there are lots of problems with Knoppix's custom scripts | 18:07 |
| luisv | soumyadip: correct on both counts | 18:07 |
| soumyadip | luisv: :) well I dabble a little in Debian and Ubuntu, so I keep track | 18:08 |
| luisv | :) | 18:08 |
| * soumyadip thinks Ubuntu Dapper (or maybe Xubuntu for a lighterweight distro) is a nice base for a livecd cum install cd | 18:09 | |
| soumyadip | the new installer works like a charm | 18:09 |
| dranreb | xubuntu looks good | 18:09 |
| santu4u | That may not be bad as Ubuntu also keeps the pollish that CC is known for | 18:11 |
| luisv | yeah, I love stock ubuntu, but xubuntu might be a better choice weight-wise | 18:11 |
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| santu4u | the thing comes down to what distro will provide a maintainable auto generation | 18:12 |
| santu4u | that's why I side with Morphix | 18:12 |
| santu4u | but I'll give Xubuntu another look | 18:12 |
| santu4u | anyway I'm less concerned about the liveCD | 18:12 |
| santu4u | most are goingto use this as a media CD | 18:13 |
| santu4u | this isn't Ubuntu/Linux evangelism it's CC evangelism | 18:13 |
| dranreb | yarh man | 18:14 |
| santu4u | yarh? | 18:14 |
| dranreb | hope to see your cd given out free at my local store soon | 18:14 |
| dranreb | yarh = ya | 18:14 |
| dranreb | heehee | 18:14 |
| santu4u | ha very strange spelling | 18:14 |
| santu4u | I hope to see the script generate several CDs not just a single printing | 18:15 |
| santu4u | that to me is what the whole proposal hinges on | 18:15 |
| dranreb | maybe for writers u could pack up a cds with the writing apps, for musicians all the music tools and so on | 18:16 |
| santu4u | that could get sticky but possible | 18:17 |
| santu4u | the more "possibilities" that we propose the less likely we are to get the money ;-) | 18:17 |
| santu4u | I'd rather stick to a single CD and do it well for this time | 18:18 |
| aphid | I think that degree of specialization in creative process is somewhat outdated | 18:18 |
| dranreb | okies | 18:18 |
| aphid | musicians and visual artists need to write proposals, writers make mixes (or tape themselves rambling for later transcription), etc.. | 18:19 |
| santu4u | There is AGNULA for musicians (An Ubuntu based CD) | 18:19 |
| santu4u | And for writers almost any distro is cool... | 18:19 |
| aphid | i do all my writing in wiki anyway... | 18:19 |
| santu4u | There isn't a good graphics focused distro that I'm aware of | 18:20 |
| dranreb | back to the point, santu4u whats ur aim for this CD? what is it going to accomplish ? | 18:20 |
| aphid | gimp/inkspot/imagemagick/...? | 18:20 |
| santu4u | I have a friend who keeps everything in an internal dokuwiki on his comp | 18:20 |
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| santu4u | in a word: maintainability | 18:21 |
| santu4u | I'm not so much after creating a liveCD but creating the scripts to build such a CD | 18:21 |
| santu4u | the part I still don't have clear is whether a liveCD or media CD is better | 18:21 |
| dranreb | u focusing abit too much on just maintainability think of abit how it's going to advocate CC | 18:21 |
| santu4u | sorry | 18:22 |
| dranreb | just my opinion :p no need to sorry | 18:22 |
| dranreb | anyway you have got 5 hours 36 minutes 39 seconds. | 18:23 |
| dranreb | left | 18:23 |
| dranreb | start cranking up | 18:23 |
| santu4u | not sure whether CC wants to showcase the possabilities of it's license or the software that should have integrating them more heavily | 18:23 |
| santu4u | can finnish the proposal in 30 minutes | 18:24 |
| santu4u | would rather be better researched | 18:24 |
| santu4u | kinda here getting the final take whether I should propose a media focused CD or app focused | 18:25 |
| dranreb | any mentors home? | 18:26 |
| santu4u | not responding at the moment | 18:26 |
| santu4u | ARGH... :-/ | 18:26 |
| santu4u | anyhow they are listening hopefully... | 18:26 |
| santu4u | it's amazing how there are so many people nere and so few talkative ones | 18:27 |
| dranreb | must be bz looking at proposals i guess | 18:27 |
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| dranreb | anyway dude i gtg its 2.30 am at my place | 18:27 |
| dranreb | all the best | 18:27 |
| santu4u | thanks | 18:28 |
| santu4u | you too | 18:28 |
| dranreb | the name is bernard | 18:28 |
| santu4u | hopefully we'll both land these things and get to continue this | 18:28 |
| dranreb | and urs? | 18:28 |
| santu4u | Santosh | 18:28 |
| dranreb | nice to meet u santosh | 18:28 |
| dranreb | c u around | 18:28 |
| santu4u | k | 18:28 |
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| soumyadip | tannewt: hi | 20:12 |
| tannewt | hi soumyadip | 20:12 |
| tannewt | whats up? | 20:12 |
| soumyadip | tannewt: submitted my proposal for a modified OpenCD, let's see what do the SoC mentors decide | 20:13 |
| tannewt | excellent | 20:14 |
| soumyadip | I think the actual work will be in creating scripts that automate the creation and generation of such CDs | 20:15 |
| tannewt | hmm | 20:15 |
| soumyadip | with the possibility of customising the CD for different users like musicians, artists, etc. | 20:16 |
| tannewt | nice | 20:16 |
| poningru | soumyadip: wow I was thinking about doing something like that | 20:18 |
| poningru | soumyadip: with nvu as a backend | 20:18 |
| soumyadip | poningru: really ? I'm intrigued | 20:19 |
| soumyadip | how do you plan to do the scripting with nvu ? | 20:19 |
| poningru | well I wanted to do xulrunner+xpi app | 20:20 |
| poningru | see the thing is I wanted to do this for like really non-tech people | 20:20 |
| soumyadip | :) poningru you really are a l33t hacker | 20:20 |
| poningru | hehe I wished | 20:21 |
| tannewt | branding is very important also | 20:21 |
| soumyadip | no poningru I'm not thinking of letting users dynamically create their CC CD images :) | 20:21 |
| poningru | ah ic | 20:21 |
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| soumyadip | my plan is to let the script handle parameters to build CD images with preselected set of software | 20:22 |
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| soumyadip | of course poningru's solution would be much more elegant, but then people might not want choices in certain cases, especially when they are unfamiliar with the applications etc. | 20:23 |
| soumyadip | poningru: didn't you submit your proposal ? | 20:24 |
| poningru | nope | 20:24 |
| poningru | too much to do over summer | 20:24 |
| poningru | taking mcat in august | 20:24 |
| poningru | :( | 20:24 |
| soumyadip | oh ok :) best of luck | 20:24 |
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| poningru | hehe thanks | 20:24 |
| soumyadip | tannewt: didn't understand you on the branding part | 20:25 |
| poningru | soumyadip: where are you from? | 20:25 |
| poningru | your name sounds a little bit indian | 20:25 |
| tannewt | soumyadip, people hav eto know who created and what to get excited about | 20:25 |
| soumyadip | tannewt: that looks like a job for the index.htm | 20:26 |
| soumyadip | poningru: I'm from Kolkata India | 20:26 |
| tannewt | soumyadip, right, that and the CD artwork | 20:26 |
| tannewt | ie what it comes in | 20:26 |
| soumyadip | oh yes, I'll need lots of help with the CD artwork | 20:27 |
| tannewt | I'm not much of an artist | 20:27 |
| soumyadip | :) the others hopefully will pitch in | 20:28 |
| tannewt | I can help with the content | 20:28 |
| soumyadip | great, I'll start pencilling in people to help me out with the CD proposal | 20:29 |
| soumyadip | hopefully it will be accepted | 20:29 |
| tannewt | we should make it happen regardless | 20:29 |
| soumyadip | tannewt: what do you think I'm pencilling you in for help ? :) | 20:31 |
| tannewt | :-) | 20:31 |
| soumyadip | too tired now, time to sleep | 20:37 |
| soumyadip | bye everybody | 20:37 |
| tannewt | bye | 20:38 |
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| poningru | whats kolkata? | 20:41 |
| poningru | I know of calcutta | 20:41 |
| poningru | I lived there for 5 years | 20:41 |
| poningru | I have never heard of this kolkata | 20:41 |
| aphid | poningru: familiar with SARAI at all? | 20:46 |
| poningru | sarai? | 20:47 |
| poningru | the csds thing? | 20:47 |
| aphid | poningru: sarai.net | 20:59 |
| poningru | mmm flashy | 20:59 |
| * poningru h8's flash | 20:59 | |
| aphid | me too, actually.. surprised there's even flash on it as they are verymuch behind floss cultural production | 21:00 |
| poningru | yeah | 21:00 |
| poningru | and they have frames... yech | 21:00 |
| poningru | looks like they are behind the times | 21:00 |
| aphid | yeah, it's probably an old design | 21:00 |
| poningru | we should offer a redesign | 21:01 |
| aphid | anyway, from what i understand they are fairly active in south asian progressive new media circles, that's why i'd asked if you were familliar | 21:03 |
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