Friday, 2006-04-28

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cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: More Flickr/CC reuse <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5874>06:15
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cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: More Flickr/CC reuse <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5874> || Amazing entries at the Crammed Discs Remix Contest <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5873> || Reopening the Sundman files <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5872> || Summer of Code student proposals open May 1 <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5871> || The Only Way To Spend World IP Day <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5870> || The Dream of a Virtual European Digital Library - Will CC Licensing Play a Role? <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/5867> || The Wombat Speaks <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5866> || Copyright-free images lead to a fun animation <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5865> || CC travel sites acquired <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5864> || Sharing Is Daring: CC art show in Boston opens on April 27 <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5862> || License adoption estimates <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5861> || Mia Garlick to Present Copyright Basics in Second Life <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5860> || Summer of Code and Commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5857> || Futures of Music <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5856> || ccPublisher 2 beta reviewed <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5855>07:00
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cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: More Flickr/CC reuse <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5874> || Amazing entries at the Crammed Discs Remix Contest <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5873> || Reopening the Sundman files <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5872> || Summer of Code student proposals open May 1 <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5871> || The Only Way To Spend World IP Day <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5870> || The Dream of a Virtual European Digital Library - Will CC Licensing Play a Role? <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/5867> || The Wombat Speaks <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5866> || Copyright-free images lead to a fun animation <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5865> || CC travel sites acquired <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5864> || Sharing Is Daring: CC art show in Boston opens on April 27 <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5862> || License adoption estimates <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5861> || Mia Garlick to Present Copyright Basics in Second Life <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5860> || Summer of Code and Commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5857> || Futures of Music <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5856> || ccPublisher 2 beta reviewed <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/5855>12:35
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lastnodeanyone home?15:28
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mlinksvalastnode, hi, i'm going offline, will be back in a couple hours15:37
lastnodeok np15:38
lastnodejust wanna ask some questions about SoC15:38
mlinksvacool, i'll be back!15:38
lastnode:)15:46
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mlinksvaJoiIto, hi18:06
mlinksvalastnode, hi, i'm back18:06
Jedi_Ito sun!18:06
lastnodehi mlinksva18:09
lastnodeyou there?18:09
lastnodesorry away for a sec18:09
JoiItohey18:09
lastnodehey, id like to talk to someone about SoC18:10
mlinksvalastnode, hi.  what questions do you ahve?18:23
lastnodemlinksva, is there a mentor I can talk to? id just like to run a project by him/her18:23
mlinksvarejon and i are both mentors for cc18:24
mlinksvayou can email me if you want ml at creativecommons.org18:24
lastnodeoh ok, ill go ahead and ask then18:24
lastnodejust a quick question18:24
lastnodehttp://creativecommons.org/tools/ccpublisher <-- i've noticed that there are tools for windows/mac18:24
lastnodebut no *nix variant18:25
lastnodei was wondering whether a gtk based application would be a viable project18:25
lastnodeor am i totally off the mark here?18:25
mlinksvawell, it is actually developed mostly on linux, just not packaged.  more up to date info is at http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcPublisher_2_Releases18:26
mlinksvaccpublisher 2 is in beta18:26
mlinksvathere's a tgz18:26
lastnodeoh right, my bad then :)18:27
lastnodesorry18:27
mlinksvaso no a separate project that is similar would probably not be viable18:27
mlinksvano, sorry for the outdated info on the site!18:27
lastnodenot a problem18:28
mlinksvaactually http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcPublisher_2_Beta_2 is the latest beta fwiw18:28
lastnodethanks for your time mlinksva18:28
lastnodecool18:28
mlinksvalastnode, thanks for your interest.  if you have other ideas or have an idea for enhancing ccpublisher feel free to run it/them by me18:28
lastnodethe LiveCD is another thing that caught my interest, but i dont have enough of a proposal to even talk about it. :)18:28
mlinksvaLiveCD is probably going to be competitive, i've heard from a few people who want to submit such a proposal18:29
lastnodehow many students is CC taking this time?18:29
lastnodeim not a very experienced programmer, so maybe i should try another project?18:29
lastnodeCC is perhaps a little too high profile18:30
mlinksvai think that's up to google.  if i understand correctly we rank submissions then they get to cut off.  we're prepared to take quite a few students, we have four mentors and can get more18:30
lastnodei just chose CC and Wikimedia as possible locations because i admire the work done by both18:31
mlinksvathx :)  i'd look over project ideas from a bunch of organizations and pick a project that you're totally into, i guess that'd be more important than the organization18:32
mlinksvaespecially since it's all open source18:32
lastnodeyes, i mean after that elimination. im fairly proficient with php and know my way alright around perl. but i have no C knowledge at all, so that put a lot of projects out of my reach.18:33
lastnodeim a tertiary dev for our local Sri Lankan distro Taprobane (www.taprobane.org), which is why the livecd interested me :)18:33
mlinksvalastnode, cool.  there are a number of php-based projects listsed on http://code.google.com/soc/ eg drupal, joomla and probably several others. CC has a php-based project http://wiki.creativecommons.org/CcHost that i'd welcome SoC proposals if you can think of a feature that would be a summer of work -- see bug/feature tracker linked from that page18:42
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evanprolastnode: there's a ton of MediaWiki work to be done18:46
lastnodeevanpro, a lot of that is beyond my grasp. ive read the project ideas, and it seemed a little far out.18:46
lastnodethanks mlinksva, just read through those pages. ill try and think of some features. to be perfectly honest though, ccHost seems pretty much complete.18:46
evanproso, on a general CC topic18:47
evanproIs the general public not invited to the iCommons summit?18:48
evanproJust invited to help pay for it?18:48
evanproIMTS iSummit18:48
mlinksvauh, i'm trying to stay as far away from that as possible.  the messaging is extremely unclear18:52
mlinksvabut if you want to attend and don't need a scholarship you're definitely welcome18:52
mlinksvahttp://icommons.org/register/18:52
mlinksva(meaning as far away from planning as possible, i will probably attend)18:53
evanprooooooooh18:53
evanprowell that makes sense18:53
evanpronot that I wouldn't like to underwrite a nice big meetup of international folks18:54
mlinksvaheh, the very word "international" annoys me.  the U.S. is national and everyone is is international?  is this the internet or what?18:55
mlinksva:)18:55
evanprobut I'd like to either be welcome or know why I'm not18:55
mlinksvayou're definitely welcome.18:56
lastnodelooks like it's gonna be fun guys18:56
lastnodemaybe in a few years, when im outta college :)18:56
evanpromlinksva: I realize that now18:58
evanproI just got confused by the iSummit message on cc.org18:58
evanprooops18:58
evanproThat abbreviation is probably ill-advised18:59
mlinksvaevanpro, it's probably a confusing message, not you18:59
mlinksvalastnode, ccHost is *far* from complete, just don't know if there's an enhancement that is independent enough that it would be reasonable to tackle in a SoC project19:01
lastnodemlinksva, would a CC-wordpress plugin be a big enough project?19:02
lastnode"Develop plugins that utilize Creative Commons licenses and metadata in your favorite applications. If these are web-based ideally licensing both at site-level and "object" (e.g., page, image) level should be supported, and RDFa metadata."19:02
mlinksvathere already is a cc-wordpress plugin http://yergler.net/projects/wplicense you might want to talk to nathan @ creativecommons.org about upgrading it to support RDFa and per-object licensing19:05
mlinksvanathan wrote it and would mentor such a project19:05
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lastnodethanks mlinksva19:07
lastnodesent19:11
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