Monday, 2006-04-17

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sylvinusmlinksva, thanks for pointing me to last.fm labels17:47
mlinksvasylvinus, anytime :)17:57
sylvinusI'm sorry I didn't send an application for your summer internship program17:57
sylvinusjamendo just keeps me too busy and we're being funded in a few months, so this won't be the right summer to do that :(17:59
mlinksvathat's good news!17:59
sylvinusyes it is :p17:59
mlinksvabtw, do you have any clue to what extent ed2k distribution has been helpful?18:00
sylvinused2k use was about 40% before the razorback shutdown18:00
mlinksva& do you have any plans to enable magnet (gnutella) links?  i've seen them in a drop down menu at one point but they didn't work iirc18:00
mlinksva40% of what? p2p BT being other 60%?18:01
sylvinusyes18:01
mlinksvaso people where discovering jamendo content on razorback?18:01
sylvinuswe have magnet links implemented but we don't seed on gnutella yet18:01
sylvinusI don't know that, but many people seem to have switched to bittorrent since then18:02
sylvinusI think ed2k will dissappear slowly... but BT is a better solution for us18:03
sylvinusgnutella is really unknown in france...18:04
mlinksvawell, ed2k and bt are very different, but yeah, bt is better for most purposes. to the extent people continue to use decentralized filesharing i think gnutella will slowly displace ed2k until something else comes along18:05
sylvinusbt is quite decentralized now too... I usually get more peers from DHT network than from trackers18:06
mlinksvai regularly share a fair amount of jamendo content on gnutella with limewire.  not much gets downloaded though :(18:06
mlinksvayeah, but decentralized 'search' (lack of) is what most distinguishes BT from ed2k/gnutella/et al.18:08
sylvinusas we get more international I think we'll focus a bit more on gnutella, you're right...18:09
mlinksvai might be able to set up a couple high bandwidth gnutella shares this summer (either using mldonkey or lw headless, if i can figure that out). if i do i'll ping you should you be interested in mirroring some or all jamendo content.18:11
sylvinusthat'd be awesome!18:11
sylvinusI was quite dissappointed with mldonkey18:12
sylvinuswe seed with amule currently18:12
mlinksvawhat was your main disappointment? unstable? bad connectivity?18:15
sylvinusboth the stable and unstable releases were unstable... website was a pain, and it was pretty heavy on system ressources18:19
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tannewthow are things rejon?21:27
rejonpretty good21:27
rejonjust busy ;)21:27
rejonhow about for you?21:27
tannewtpretty good, I stay pretty busy21:27
rejongood!21:28
rejonotherwise bored!21:28
tannewtwhen you have time I put a promo for the trip up21:28
tannewtI dont like being idle21:28
rejongr821:28
aphiddebord says: live without dead time.  debord also says: real situationists drink milk!21:30
rejongotta slap debord21:30
aphidhe already kicked the bucket21:31
rejoni know21:31
aphidcommitted suicide21:31
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