Wednesday, 2006-03-29

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cwilkinHello -> Could anyone enlighten me as to the use of (CC) on the radio waves?00:50
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cwilkinHello01:38
tannewthi cwilkin01:41
cwilkintannewt: could you answer a question for me about (cc) license?01:47
tannewtcwilkin, I can try01:47
cwilkinwhat are the rules/regulations behind broadcasting (cc) over the radio waves01:47
tannewtcwilkin, CC licenses dont cover it as far as I know01:48
tannewtcwilkin, treat it like any other copyrighted material01:48
tannewtwhat country are you in?01:48
cwilkintannewt, so i could *not* play it on the radio01:48
cwilkinthe states01:48
tannewtwell, radio law allows you to play anything and then you must compensate the composer of the song or the composition rights holder as dictated by a compulsory license01:49
tannewtack01:49
aphidpretty sure copying and 'performance' are different issues01:49
tannewtright01:49
tannewtaphid, its governed by laws and not the CC license01:50
aphidit would be nice to tack on a nc performance right to cc music though01:50
tannewthmm01:50
tannewtcwilkin, it can be played on the radio but not for free01:50
aphidany radio station would have its own method of tracking set lists to take care of this for you01:51
tannewtto pay the compulsory license01:51
cwilkinahh01:58
cwilkinblast01:58
cwilkintannewt: thank you for the help01:58
tannewtcwilkin, I'm not a lawyer though01:58
tannewtbut CC licenses do not address broadcast rights01:58
cwilkintannewt: they should ;)01:59
tannewtcwilkin, its already addressed in copyright law01:59
tannewtdoesn't need fixing01:59
cwilkini guess in my eyes it does... if the idea of cc is to have open exchange... i would like to think broadcast rights come in there somewhere... where does podcasting figure into all of this02:00
tannewtpodcasts as far as I know are more of a collective work than a broadcast (in my view)02:01
tannewtcwilkin, http://www.openroadtrip.net/mar24_video_lawrence_lessig02:02
cwilkini guess this gets into a can of worms doesn't it? what's a broadcast and what's a podcast02:02
tannewtright, RIAA etc. get upset because unlike radio there is no degradation in quality02:02
tannewtits an issue that needs to be considered02:02
aphidpodcasting does not, at present, fall under existing broadcast regulation02:06
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rejonhyphee!19:11
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aphidhi rejon20:15
rejonhi20:16
aphidi realized i never got back to you about metavid and/or freculture.ucsc.. i will email sharon to see if maybe there's something we could do that might coincide with one of her classes20:17
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rejonok20:22
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rejonyou guys should present at an upcoming cc salon20:22
rejonwww.creativecommons.org/salon20:23
rejonwhy don' t you look at that page and find what month works best for you to present20:23
aphidok.. i would tentatively say May.  we're doing craig baldwin's Other Cinema on apr 22 so we should have a good presentation worked out by then20:24
aphidit would be nice to see ken goldberg again20:25
aphidi just checked with my collaborator and that would work for him too20:26
rejonok, sounds good...20:30
rejonwhat are both of your full names, your URL and presentation topic20:30
rejon(I'm adding right now)20:30
rejonalso, what is your email20:31
aphidAbram Stern (aka Aphid) and Michael Dale.  Presentation topic is Metavid, a system for collective remediation of public gov't proceedings20:31
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aphidmy email is aphid@ucsc.edu, project's is metavid@ucsc.edu, our project is at http://metavid.ucsc.edu and you can see an interview with us @ http://openroadtrip.net/20:32
aphidoh crud20:32
rejonthat is fine20:32
rejonit is obfuscated20:32
aphidsweet20:33
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rejoncool...ok...time to eat20:34
rejonhttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/Salon#Presenters20:34
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aphidok, cool.  if you could add a link to metavid.ucsc.edu that would be great20:36
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aphidnm.. we got it20:42
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rejonrock21:33
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