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| Calade | Hey! Can anyone tell me if magazines who get profits from advertising and such are allowed to use non-commercial photos licenced under CC? | 15:10 |
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| erlehmann | Calade, non-commercial is problematic. if any money is involved at all, I would advise you to stay away from it. caution: This is my private line of thought, I am not a lawyer nor a CC representative etc. pp. | 15:15 |
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| * paroneayea waves to everyone in #cc | 15:45 | |
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| greg-g | ugh, what was the story of a cultural institution that budgeted something like $100,000 for legal fees to create a license to apply to the works they will be releasing, but then just used CC and spent that money in more important ways? | 16:12 |
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| greg-g | found it thanks to tvol | 16:22 |
| paroneayea | yay tvol | 16:22 |
| greg-g | yep, he remembered instantly off the top of his head | 16:23 |
| paroneayea | :) | 16:23 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: yo, do you know much about/administer at all http://forum.creativecommons.org/ | 16:24 |
| paroneayea | assuming "yes" but ;) | 16:24 |
| greg-g | I mean, I guess it *was* the Open University of the UK. But the he was like "from that CC interview we did with Patrick McAndrew" just showing off ;) | 16:24 |
| paroneayea | robmyers said he was having trouble registering on there | 16:25 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: A little, why? | 16:25 |
| nkinkade | I mean, I've got an admin account and I installed the software. :-) | 16:26 |
| nkinkade | But I can't say I know too too much about bbPress. | 16:26 |
| robmyers | yes it wouldn't take me past the registration page after I filled out the captcha and pressed the button | 16:26 |
| nkinkade | robmyers: Any error message? | 16:27 |
| robmyers | no it just silently fails and presents the page with a new captcha | 16:33 |
| robmyers | I did get error messages to start with but I corrected them | 16:33 |
| robmyers | and then when there are no more error messages, it's still sad | 16:33 |
| robmyers | yes I just tried with an invalid username, which gave an error message, then when I corrected it, ticked the license box and filled out the captcha, clicking Register again just flashed back to the same page | 16:35 |
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| bagz | creative commons?where's the credit card channel? | 16:37 |
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| robmyers | very droll ;-) | 16:38 |
| Calade | thanks erlehmann | 16:38 |
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| robmyers | possibly mlinksva blacklisted me? ;-) | 16:42 |
| nkinkade | robmyers: I just registered a test user and it worked just fine. To be 100% sure, are you accepting cookies? | 16:43 |
| robmyers | oh | 16:44 |
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| robmyers | I assume so, I've got Firefox 3.6.12 on Fedora 14. I'll check | 16:46 |
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| nkinkade | Something like cookies being disabled or NoScript or something like that is the thing that immediately occurs to me. If those aren't it, and it fails in some other browser as well, then PM me with the details of the account you are trying to create so I can try to reproduce on my side. | 16:48 |
| nkinkade | robmyers: ^^ | 16:48 |
| robmyers | thanks | 16:48 |
| robmyers | I get some cookies starting with __ from forum.cc -> __utmb __utmc __utma __utmz | 16:49 |
| nkinkade | Anything *utm* would be Urchin Tracking Module a.ka. Goolge Analytics. | 16:50 |
| robmyers | checking to see if it's firebug | 16:55 |
| robmyers | doesn't seem to be | 16:58 |
| robmyers | Chrome now says register.php is not available??? | 16:59 |
| robmyers | weird | 17:00 |
| robmyers | Error 346 (net::ERR_RESPONSE_HEADERS_MULTIPLE_CONTENT_LENGTH): Unknown error. | 17:00 |
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| nkinkade | robmyers: A user with the login you are trying already exists, with your email too. Registered back in 2008 ... presumably by you. Does the recover password option work for you? | 17:07 |
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| akozak | nkinkade, do you know if we're storing any original cc video files on mirrors? | 19:39 |
| akozak | i don't have an acct on a8 to browse it | 19:39 |
| nkinkade | akozak: There are some. | 19:39 |
| nkinkade | akozak: There should be links to them on each respective video page, though. Are there not? | 19:39 |
| akozak | nkinkade, I think there are some, but mralex said something about those maybe not being the original originals | 19:39 |
| mralex | akozak: there are OGG versions, which you should be able to transcode | 19:40 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I suppose it's possible there are some others on mirrors, but I'm not sure then. | 19:40 |
| akozak | It just occurred to me that if I'm re-encoding into webm I probably shoudln't do it at the highest possible quality | 19:41 |
| akozak | so maybe I don't need the originals | 19:41 |
| akozak | I'm only seeking out the originals to get the best quality, and maybe as a side benefit we'd have them all in once place | 19:42 |
| akozak | I guess it depends on if we want to embed or link to downloadable webm files | 19:43 |
| mralex | you know what, looking at the file sizes…. i think http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/getcreative/Creative_Commons_-_Get_Creative.mov is the proper quicktime version | 19:45 |
| mralex | at 274MB; vs another version i see at only 72MB | 19:46 |
| mralex | akozak: ^^ | 19:47 |
| akozak | mralex, yea thanks. that version isn't linked to on the video page. | 19:47 |
| mralex | akozak: also http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/reticulum_rex/Creative_Commons_-_Remix_Culture.mpeg | 19:47 |
| mralex | akozak: it is linked from the video page :) | 19:48 |
| mralex | although it links to an _o version, which is the same file | 19:48 |
| akozak | it is? I only see a *_0.mov linked to | 19:48 |
| akozak | err | 19:48 |
| akozak | _o | 19:48 |
| akozak | oh ok | 19:48 |
| mralex | (Fred did that, so the file ownerships say, no idea why) | 19:49 |
| akozak | mralex, any thoughts on if I should encode webm for embedding (smaller filesize) or for downloading? | 19:50 |
| mralex | probably for embedding | 19:50 |
| akozak | isn't really clear what mike meant by "ought to be also made available in .webm" | 19:51 |
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| akozak | mralex, how would you feel if I just transcoded the lower-quality source videos to webm that I got from blip.tv, given we're aiming for embeddable webm files? | 20:12 |
| paroneayea | ~_~ | 20:12 |
| * paroneayea not ~_~'ing this conversation, just tired of this bug | 20:13 | |
| akozak | or do I need to do it right and encode own from the original files? | 20:13 |
| akozak | down* | 20:13 |
| akozak | oddly, some of the blip.tv source files are huge | 20:14 |
| mralex | akozak: if you're downsampling from blip then it should be OK | 20:14 |
| akozak | and some are small | 20:14 |
| akozak | mralex, yea it's weird. a few of them are ~900mb and others are ~10mb. | 20:14 |
| mralex | odd! | 20:15 |
| akozak | oh hah the 900mb one is over an hour long | 20:15 |
| akozak | that explains it | 20:15 |
| akozak | mralex, sorry, one more thing: do you think we're going to want to prune the selection of videos on cc.org/videos, or should I shoot for all of them encoded? | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: can I pick ur brain about http://code.creativecommons.org/issues/issue709? | 20:17 |
| paroneayea | Also "pick your brain" is a pretty gross phrase | 20:18 |
| mralex | akozak: probably focus on the core videos | 20:19 |
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| nkinkade | nyergler: Is John on vacation by chance? | 21:00 |
| nkinkade | scraper is acting up a bit. Restarting Apache seemed to help it, but it still seems a bit unstable at the moment. | 21:01 |
| paroneayea | oh YESSSSSSSSSSSSS | 21:03 |
| paroneayea | breakthrough! | 21:03 |
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| akozak | nkinkade, he's not, just not on irc | 21:10 |
| akozak | he's at his desk :) | 21:10 |
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| akozak | nkinkade, i'm going to have an archive of all of CC's source videos from blip.tv. Is this something we might want to store somewhere? | 21:28 |
| nkinkade | akozak: I doubt it, especially if they are all already available on blip.tv. | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | :-) | 21:29 |
| nkinkade | Let them do the storage instead of us. | 21:29 |
| akozak | Ah, I thought you were mistrustful of clouds :P | 21:29 |
| * paroneayea puts on Little Fluffy Clouds by The Orb | 21:31 | |
| greg-g | wait, what did I just see nkinkade type? nkinkade, say it ain't so! | 21:55 |
| nkinkade | What did I say? | 21:55 |
| greg-g | "let them do the storage instead of us" and "if they are all already available on blip.tv" | 21:56 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: ohnoesss | 22:47 |
| paroneayea | http://blog.transifex.net/2010/11/one-dot-zero/ | 22:47 |
| paroneayea | ie, also horray | 22:47 |
| paroneayea | simultaneously horray and ohnoes | 22:47 |
| akozak | paroneayea, this might be a stupid question but do you know of a way to save an emacs state, like open files and window layout? | 22:47 |
| paroneayea | desktop-save | 22:48 |
| paroneayea | desktop-revert | 22:48 |
| paroneayea | saves all the files, not so sure about window layout | 22:48 |
| paroneayea | oh yeah | 22:48 |
| paroneayea | looks like it does that | 22:48 |
| akozak | cool! thanks | 22:49 |
| paroneayea | you can also set it to actively automatically save that info | 22:49 |
| paroneayea | put (desktop-save-mode 1) in your ~/.emacs | 22:49 |
| akozak | ooh neat | 22:49 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Yeah. I guess that as of tomorrow we'll have to start using the tx tool. | 22:51 |
| paroneayea | ya | 22:54 |
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