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| eugo | hey | 03:31 |
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| eugo | im trying to find out the legal issue of recieving contributions of work and how they should be licenced | 03:34 |
| eugo | anyone around? | 03:38 |
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| Niklas_ | hey guys | 12:23 |
| Niklas_ | can someone tell me what the derivative of a work is? | 12:23 |
| Niklas_ | if I include a cc sa image in a magazine, is that magazine a derivative of the image? | 12:24 |
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| mmu_screen | #Unicode added #satanic symbols and they can't add #CreativeCommons ones ? http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/Unicode-6.0/U60-2600.pdf | 14:47 |
| mmu_screen | :( | 14:47 |
| paroneayea | mmu_screen: those symbols aren't necessarily satanic, they have pre interpreted-as-satanic meanings, but anyway | 15:08 |
| paroneayea | a lot of the reasons there are all those characters in there is because unicode tried to pull together all characters used in character codes that already existed | 15:08 |
| paroneayea | hence why we have snowmen and weather symbols, some character sets already contained them | 15:09 |
| paroneayea | if someone had included CC way back when in an old set, we'd probably have them! | 15:09 |
| paroneayea | but here are some cool symbols which I think *look* CC related | 15:09 |
| paroneayea | ㏄ <- single-character "CC" | 15:09 |
| paroneayea | ⊜ <- equals in a circle, looks like the by icon | 15:10 |
| paroneayea | that's it I'm afraid though ⍢ | 15:10 |
| mmu_screen | paroneayea: yes just like the svastika has different meanings elsewhere | 15:22 |
| mmu_screen | as for snowmen and others | 15:22 |
| mmu_screen | Dingbats is not a character set but a font that bastardized the latin one in the first place | 15:23 |
| mmu_screen | I guess we should submit a proposal | 15:23 |
| mmu_screen | maybe even with the help of europeana | 15:24 |
| mmu_screen | oh, and we miss a GNU :D | 15:24 |
| mmu_screen | maybe a first step would be to stuff them in the private block in free fonts | 15:25 |
| mmu_screen | instead of the eaten apple & others found on OSX for ex | 15:25 |
| mmu_screen | this could be an incentive | 15:25 |
| mmu_screen | but doing this risks them being misinterpreted on non-free OSes | 15:25 |
| paroneayea | Ꙩ◦Ꙩ ~♪ | 15:29 |
| mmu_screen | . ° ◦ ° o O | 15:37 |
| paroneayea | mmu_screen: btw, if you are not already a fan | 15:37 |
| paroneayea | http://www.alanwood.net/unicode/ | 15:37 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: On /donate, where does the function change_recur() live for the "choose your own amount" box? | 17:01 |
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| mmu_screen | paroneayea: didn't know this one | 17:13 |
| mmu_screen | paroneayea: I used BeOS for 10 years, and I work on Haiku. I've used Unicode (UTF-8, not the horrible UCS-*) for over a decade already :p | 17:13 |
| mralex | nkinkade: hmm, i'm not sure | 17:15 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Oh ... I see that it's throwing a JS errors (non-fatal) that change_recur is not defined. I suppose that reference should be removed the on_click action for the checkbox. | 17:15 |
| mralex | ah | 17:15 |
| mralex | crap, yeah, i think i moved that handler elsewhere and forgot to remove the onclick | 17:15 |
| nkinkade | I was only asking, because I was going through and adding &final_receipt=76 to all the recurring URLs and was thinking that change_recur must be the place where the query string was formed. | 17:16 |
| nkinkade | No big deal ... it works just fine. | 17:16 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I already added &final_receipt to the buttons, but would you be able to cause the "choose your own amount" box to append that, if the user has selected multiple payments? | 17:17 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: I also see that check_minimum isn't defined, but referred to ... I guess that one can go away too. | 17:17 |
| mralex | nkinkade: that ought to be set in the oneclick script when multiple donations are selected (user can change their mind while in the popup, which may affect final_receipt) | 17:18 |
| mralex | i can do that | 17:18 |
| mralex | oneclick javascript script, that is | 17:18 |
| nkinkade | Ah. I'm glad I ran that by you, then. :-) | 17:18 |
| nkinkade | I might have been mucking around support.js. | 17:18 |
| nkinkade | But I guess maybe it needs to be in both? | 17:19 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 17:19 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Are there any other places you can think of where recurring contributions might be possible? widgets, PCPs, or some such, where we might need to also set final_receipt? | 17:20 |
| mralex | it'll need to be added to the widget oneclick js implementation too. noted. :) | 17:21 |
| mralex | nkinkade: is final_receipt=76 a constant and only for recurring giving? | 17:22 |
| nkinkade | mralex: It's only for recurring contributions, yeah. | 17:22 |
| nkinkade | mralex: It's the same idea as &receipt=, but in this case, if set, will cause a special message to be sent to contributors after they make the final payment in a subscription, reminding them that it just ended and encouraging them to renew. | 17:23 |
| mralex | ah, cool | 17:24 |
| nkinkade | It's the database id of a message template. | 17:24 |
| nkinkade | mralex: There is a ticket open on this. I've already added the code. Can I reassign to you, for you to close once you've added final_receipt anywhere you can think it needs to go? | 17:24 |
| mralex | nkinkade: sounds good | 17:24 |
| nkinkade | Cool. Thanks. | 17:25 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: changes done; i don't see the issue ticket though. | 18:08 |
| mralex | oh | 18:08 |
| mralex | i see it now | 18:08 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: ping | 18:15 |
| paroneayea | JED3: prongs | 18:16 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: hi, wondering if you could catch me up on licenses/publicdomain/ 's status now that we've launched pdm | 18:17 |
| paroneayea | what about it? | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | not too much changed there | 18:18 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I didn't assign the ticket to you because I realized that there are still some problems. Thanks. | 18:21 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: well i'm a bit confused about the cc.license selector then | 18:43 |
| paroneayea | :? | 18:44 |
| JED3 | http://creativecommons.org/license/publicdomain/ broken redirect here | 18:44 |
| paroneayea | JED3: http://creativecommons.org/choose/publicdomain-2 | 18:45 |
| paroneayea | oh wait | 18:45 |
| paroneayea | so what's linking to /license/publicdomain/ ? | 18:46 |
| paroneayea | afaik, if something is, it should link to /choose/publicdomain-2 .. Do I need to add a redirect from /choose/publicdomain to /choose/publicdomain-2? | 18:46 |
| JED3 | choose/pd should go to choose/pd-2 imo | 18:47 |
| paroneayea | well if it did pre-sanity, it hasn't ever post-sanity | 18:47 |
| paroneayea | which isn't pdm related | 18:47 |
| JED3 | but aside from that, the license selector for publicdomain is choosing the old pd license for the defaults answers: | 18:48 |
| JED3 | >>> cc.license.selectors.choose('publicdomain').by_answers({}) | 18:48 |
| JED3 | <License object 'http://creativecommons.org/licenses/publicdomain/'> | 18:48 |
| JED3 | shouldn't that be a license obj for the mark? | 18:48 |
| paroneayea | good point | 18:48 |
| paroneayea | wait | 18:48 |
| paroneayea | yeah I don't know how by_answers works | 18:49 |
| paroneayea | but I think you're right | 18:49 |
| paroneayea | nyergler: ^^^^^^^ | 18:49 |
| paroneayea | oh maybe we should email for that | 18:50 |
| paroneayea | dunno if he'll be around | 18:50 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: yeah prolly so | 18:50 |
| paroneayea | good eye JED3 :) | 18:50 |
| JED3 | take a look at questions.xml | 18:50 |
| JED3 | its pretty straightforward to change the result | 18:50 |
| paroneayea | well let's see what nyergler thinks first | 18:51 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea: will you cc me on the email? | 18:55 |
| paroneayea | JED3: oh I figured you were sending it, but sure :) | 19:01 |
| JED3 | paroneayea: :P i dont mind | 19:01 |
| paroneayea | I'm on it | 19:01 |
| paroneayea | JED3: done | 19:04 |
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| nkinkade | JED3: Did the migration of drupal users not happen on staging.CC.net? | 19:50 |
| nkinkade | That is the <user>+civicrm thing? | 19:50 |
| JED3 | nkinkade: staging.cc.net? no not yet | 19:51 |
| nkinkade | JED3: Ah. Nevermind. | 19:51 |
| nkinkade | I was just blanking on my real user name! | 19:51 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: Can I safely munge up staging.CC.net for an upgrade? | 20:34 |
| nkinkade | Just for a few minutes, that is. | 20:34 |
| mralex | nkinkade: yup | 20:34 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: I just noticed that page to set up a PCP is using the admin theme Garland, shouldn't that be the regular CC theme? | 21:33 |
| mralex | nkinkade: john and i couldn't figure out how to make that section use the cc theme | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | mralex: It's handled by the Drupal module civicrm_theme. | 21:35 |
| mralex | oh | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | But you do want that with the normal theme, right? | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | I can set that up. | 21:35 |
| mralex | yep | 21:35 |
| mralex | thanks | 21:35 |
| mralex | ! | 21:35 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Do you happen to know which, if any, drupal directories need to writable by the web server? | 21:38 |
| mralex | nkinkade: only sites/default/files | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | Thanks. | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | mralex: http://code.creativecommons.org/viewgit/drupal.git/commit/?h=cc_production_6.19&id=55e004d06f7a77d53d589aa53eaf554156bb1b4e | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | That's how you can force a given URL to use the CC theme. | 21:42 |
| mralex | ahhh | 21:42 |
| mralex | good to know! | 21:42 |
| nkinkade | That module was designed to allow you to set certain pages with the admin theme, but since we want virtually all our civi pages using the admin theme, I altered it to default to the admin theme and to only use the CC theme for paths that we specified in an array. | 21:43 |
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| paroneayea | yessss | 21:58 |
| paroneayea | finally got through that mess of extraction and sorting through the many messages in cc.engine to find out what ones have *really* changed since PDM (plenty extracted differently due to an indentation change). Now to merge these messages in... | 22:00 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Did you or John run into any issues with PCPs and conflicting email addresses when users go to create a PCP and try to fill in the PCP profile info (first, last, email)? | 22:15 |
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| paroneayea | ohnoes, jed3 went offline and nyergler is prolly asleep | 22:27 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: you ever use msgmerge or merge translations from a .pot to cc's master/cc_org.pot in general? | 22:27 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: A couple times I have used msgmerge. | 22:27 |
| nkinkade | ... not for a POT, but for a regular PO file. | 22:28 |
| nkinkade | Precisely, I've done this for ccsearch PO files. | 22:28 |
| paroneayea | oh! ./bin/update | 22:28 |
| nkinkade | Most of the PO files for ccsearch are woefully out of date, and don't have all the latest strings. | 22:28 |
| nkinkade | So when an affiliate translates what is there, I hate to have to tell them to redo all the strings they already did, so I have used msgmerge to merge their translations, with the POT file to a new PO. | 22:29 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: unrelated: wiki.cc.org seems sluggish to the point of unusability | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Which pages? | 22:33 |
| nkinkade | The main page loads fast for me, and a7 is utterly quiescent. | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | eg http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Translating_with_Pootle/Administration | 22:34 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: that page just loaded faster than I could switch to my browser after clicking the link. | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | lol | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | hrm | 22:34 |
| paroneayea | must be just me? | 22:34 |
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| paroneayea | nkinkade: I can't access a7 via ssh :- | 22:52 |
| paroneayea | and thus can't update to git | 22:52 |
| paroneayea | hm | 22:52 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: That might be the same reason why you can't get to it via HTTP. ;-) | 22:52 |
| paroneayea | it must be something wrong with the connection from a7 to here | 22:52 |
| nkinkade | But I can SSH in just fine. Hmm. | 22:52 |
| paroneayea | if I ssh into dustycloud.org and then into a7 | 22:53 |
| paroneayea | its fine | 22:53 |
| nkinkade | Interesting. | 22:53 |
| paroneayea | stupid interpipes | 22:53 |
| paroneayea | well, guess I'll have to tunnel for now | 22:53 |
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| nkinkade | Damn Google Checkout recurring payments. Their Sandbox doesn't offer any good way to test them out beyond the first immediate payment. How is one supposed to develop with that? Write some code, then wait a month? | 23:39 |
| nkinkade | Then again, PayPal doesn't either, but at least I know what to expect in a PayPal IPN. | 23:39 |
| nkinkade | No wonder "subscriptions" are still considered a beta feature of Google Checkout. | 23:40 |
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