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| greg-g | wow, I'm getting the deluge of remote bug travker imported comments emails :) Fun times remembering these old bugs | 00:55 |
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| greg-g | erm, wrong channel | 00:55 |
| CC_Hudson | Yippie, build fixed! | 01:03 |
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| nkinkade | paroneayea: You doing anything on a7? | 14:06 |
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| paroneayea | help me cchelpbot! | 14:28 |
| paroneayea | you're my only hope | 14:28 |
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| cjbarnes18 | hello | 14:35 |
| paroneayea | hi cjbarnes18 | 14:36 |
| cjbarnes18 | I am working on a website for a local charity, and they have asked me to provide some advice for their board regarding copyrighting the photographs on their site, an protecting the rights of the photograph subjects. | 14:38 |
| cjbarnes18 | an = and | 14:38 |
| cjbarnes18 | has this kind of advice allready been written anywhere that I could utilise | 14:39 |
| paroneayea | cjbarnes18: Creative Commons doesn't provide advice/services related to copyright enforcement | 14:40 |
| paroneayea | but does provide some awfully nice copyright licences that permit reuse :) | 14:40 |
| cjbarnes18 | I was thinking more about what measures to take to ensure their rights are enforceable. | 14:41 |
| paroneayea | cjbarnes18: sorry, that's out of the scope of #cc discussion :) | 14:41 |
| cjbarnes18 | could you point me in the right direction? | 14:42 |
| cjbarnes18 | they want to licence under cc, just need to ensure the license is applied correctly and ownership etc is recorded as it should be... | 14:45 |
| cjbarnes18 | also photograph subject agreement to license, is that kind of thing needed??? | 14:46 |
| paroneayea | cjbarnes18: IANAL, but in general if you find any issues where someone is violating the license, contact them to try to resolve the situation. If problems persist, consider contacting a lawyer. Most people in my experience comply after direct communication however | 14:47 |
| paroneayea | cjbarnes18: that's all I personally have to say / know on the matter. Good luck with your client work! | 14:48 |
| cjbarnes18 | ok, thanks anyway, my q was not regarding enforcement, but I will look elsewhere. | 14:49 |
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| kreynen | we are fielidng an increasing number of issues about 'Error accessing CC API: Connection timed out' in the CC module for Drupal http://drupal.org/node/873738 | 17:34 |
| kreynen | I think we're going to have to cache the API response... is the new WP plugin caching? | 17:36 |
| nkinkade | kreynen: The WP plugin doesn't do caching yet, I believe. | 17:36 |
| kreynen | nkinkade: any advice on how often to cache? | 17:37 |
| nkinkade | kreynen: We're aware that the API is experiencing some issues. We've taken some intermediate steps to alleviate the problem, but the long term solution is for us to separate out some services to make the API more responsive. | 17:37 |
| nkinkade | It'll probably be 6 to 8 weeks before we can have that fully implemented, though. | 17:37 |
| kreynen | nkinkade: does using the API without a cache provide you with data you want? | 17:38 |
| nkinkade | kreynen: We already cache API requests, but the machine is quite busy so some of the delay is network related, I beleive. | 17:38 |
| nkinkade | kreynen: I think it's pretty safe to cache most API requests. | 17:38 |
| nkinkade | Except for ones to /issue and /get, which may have unique variables sent along. | 17:39 |
| nkinkade | kreynen: I'm going to bump this issue up to high priority internally. | 17:41 |
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| kreynen | nkinkade: is there anywhere to monitor that status of API machine/network? Even when we cache the response, it would be great to give more info that just 'Error accessing CC API: Connection timed out'. I'd like to add something like 'The cache of Creative Commons licensing information has expired, but there is an error accessing the CC API. For more information, please check http://api.creativecommons.org/status | 17:46 |
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| nkinkade | kreynen: There is not status information at the moment. We're not yet 100% what the issue is. | 17:47 |
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| akozak | nkinkade, I don't know muck luck you'll have reaching Nathan today. | 17:55 |
| kreynen | nkinkade: Even letting people know you're looking into an issue is more info than they have now. It would be great to let people know it isn't their server, host, code. If the API machine/network has no other issues and the cache hasn't been able to update for weeks, this is a likely an issue on the user's end. Simply displaying an error with no suggestions for next steps or tools for troubleshooting the cause isn't a great UX. | 17:58 |
| paroneayea | kreynen: I can tell you that I'm working on the issue right now | 18:10 |
| paroneayea | although I'm not normally the one that takes care of the api, john's on vacation | 18:10 |
| paroneayea | but we agree that it's critical, so I'm working on it | 18:10 |
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| kreynen | paroneayea: we are going to move forward with adding caching to the module, but I'd still like to see a public status log. There's < 400 sites using the module now, but as that number grows I can't play the middle man passing info between the Drupal and CC communities. I doubt anyone in the WP community wants that job either. | 18:29 |
| paroneayea | kreynen: yes, and you shouldn't have to :) | 18:30 |
| kreynen | and now for something completely different... is there any other documentation/discussion about http://code.creativecommons.org/doc/commoner/overview.html#work-registration? | 18:35 |
| paroneayea | kreynen: that one's definitely out of my jurisdiction of knowledge :) | 18:36 |
| paroneayea | too bad both nathan yergler and john doig are out at the same time :< | 18:37 |
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| paroneayea | kreynen: yo | 19:23 |
| kreynen | paroneayea: hey | 19:23 |
| paroneayea | I've tried making an adjustment to one of the deployment parameters | 19:23 |
| greg-g | btw, if you like python, Tomboy, and CC licenses, check out this bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=629580 | 19:23 |
| paroneayea | there's a chance that it'll improve things | 19:23 |
| paroneayea | I just reloaded things now | 19:23 |
| * greg-g needs to some day sit down and actually learn python instead of my usual "I know enough to hack up other people's code to make dead simple changes" | 19:24 | |
| paroneayea | kreynen: nm, doesn't seem to have fixed it. | 19:25 |
| paroneayea | for a moment there, it looked like it may have. | 19:25 |
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| paroneayea | urrrrrrk | 21:17 |
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| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: "providing"->"identifying" in work name box | 21:54 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: "providing"->"identifying" in author URL box | 21:54 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: on your webpage-> on the webpage. Who knows if that webpage is yours. | 21:54 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: "Web site"->"website" | 21:54 |
| CC_Hudson | * Christopher Allan Webber: "THE" Public Domain Mark. | 21:54 |
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| CC_Hudson | Christopher Allan Webber: Put the different sections in form-section divs | 22:12 |
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| nkinkade | paroneayea: Sorry to keep asking this, but the auto-update of staging still from i18n is working? | 22:29 |
| nkinkade | I keep forgeting. | 22:29 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: no because of various issues. It's being postponed until post-PDM stuff | 22:30 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Good. I'll be asking you again in a couple weeks, probably. :-) | 22:35 |
| paroneayea | heh :) | 22:35 |
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| paroneayea | CC ⊜ 3.0 | 23:01 |
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| akozak | heh http://cycle-gap.blogspot.com/2007/09/extreme-pair-programming-guy-steele-and.html | 23:22 |
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