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| CC_Hudson | * Asheesh Laroia: IndexFieldName: Remove now-useless, commented-out code | 01:42 |
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| SiDi | Hey there. i've got a quick question: if i modify a file under CC 2.5 By Sa, am i allowed to license my modified version under CC 3.0 By Sa ? | 13:05 |
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| greg-g | SiDi: yes, you can for the modified version | 13:23 |
| greg-g | see the first sentence of 4(b) here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5/legalcode | 13:24 |
| SiDi | greg-g: thank you. :) | 13:24 |
| greg-g | np | 13:25 |
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| alsk___ | hi, i have a question regarding CC-BY-SA 3.0 if i want to mirror read-only something, what does it mean license wise ? | 15:05 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: what do you mean by "mirror"? | 15:07 |
| alsk___ | copy 1:1 ? | 15:07 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: In that case you would only be required to give credit to the original author(s). | 15:08 |
| alsk___ | and link to CC-BY-SA as well, no ? | 15:08 |
| nkinkade | The SA clause of the SA licenses is only activated when you create a derivative work. | 15:08 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: Linking to the license is good. | 15:09 |
| alsk___ | how about it being a subset of wikipedia, and there is no i-net connection ? | 15:09 |
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| alsk___ | is a. putting a link to the ilcense and b. saying this information is from wikipedia sufficient ? | 15:09 |
| nkinkade | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/FAQ#How_do_I_properly_attribute_a_Creative_Commons_licensed_work.3F | 15:09 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: For Wikipedia stuff I think it is generally considered acceptable to reference the article from which you got the content. | 15:10 |
| nkinkade | Linking to the article and mentioning (possibly linking) to the license would be sufficient. | 15:10 |
| nkinkade | *should* be sufficient, I should say. | 15:10 |
| alsk___ | link, being the URL name itself you mean ? | 15:11 |
| alsk___ | too bad they dont have some code-snippet to tell you how to do "reference the article from which you got the content".. | 15:11 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: You could specify the license by name in text like BY-SA 3.0 Unported. | 15:11 |
| nkinkade | Or you could provide a URL. | 15:11 |
| alsk___ | the license is no issue, i put CC-BY-SA 3.0 + local copy of it | 15:12 |
| nkinkade | Or you could make the license name a link to the document, which in my eyes is best if you are publishing online. | 15:12 |
| alsk___ | saying the original URL of every article is a unknown | 15:12 |
| nkinkade | document = license | 15:12 |
| alsk___ | not online........ | 15:12 |
| alsk___ | what does "unported" mean btw ? | 15:12 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: It's really up to you somewhat. | 15:12 |
| alsk___ | yeah, sucks they dont help you with distributing it.. | 15:12 |
| nkinkade | If you prefer putting something like "CC BY-SA 3.0 Unported" that's fine. | 15:12 |
| nkinkade | Or you could simply put "http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/" | 15:13 |
| alsk___ | yeah, just trying to figure out how to reference the article from which i got the content | 15:13 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: I would mention at least the article name at Wikipedia. | 15:13 |
| nkinkade | ... if not the URL to the article. | 15:13 |
| alsk___ | the article name is mentioned as it's a 1:1 copy of it | 15:14 |
| alsk___ | the URL, i dont know how | 15:14 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: http://wikipedia.org/ArticleName | 15:15 |
| nkinkade | What's wrong with that? | 15:15 |
| alsk___ | how do i do it automatically for all articles........... | 15:15 |
| nkinkade | But at the end of the day, it's up to you to attribute in the way you feel is most appropriate and correct. | 15:15 |
| alsk___ | i can put a general notice in the footer "this is a 1:1 copy of wikipedia, feel free to check wikipedia for up2date" is it sufficient ? | 15:16 |
| nkinkade | alsk___: Here is my recommendation: read the attribution FAQ entry I linked to above. Read the copyright policy at Wikipedia. Then just attribute in a way that you feel is sufficient and correct. | 15:16 |
| alsk___ | my understanding is what you said as well | 15:17 |
| nkinkade | Nobody can tell you what is and isn't sufficient, really. | 15:17 |
| alsk___ | just dont know how to do it in an automated way per article | 15:17 |
| nkinkade | Only a judge in a court of law could ultimately tell you that your attribution wasn't respecting the license. | 15:17 |
| nkinkade | My advice is to just be fair and reasonable.. | 15:18 |
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| JED3 | nyergler: no velocity meeting for today, right? | 21:54 |
| nyergler | JED3, correct | 21:58 |
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| CC_Hudson | Nathan Kinkade: Copied es to es_ES in preparation for using es as a unified translation for Spanish. | 22:12 |
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| nkinkade | nyergler: I added es_ES to our i18n repo and then updated Transifex.net, but sadly it displays both es and es_ES with identical labels "Spanish (Castilian) (es)" ... that seems like a bug to me. YOu? | 22:52 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, it does seem sub-optimal :) | 22:54 |
| nyergler | you mean a bug in transifex? | 22:54 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Yeah. I'm thinking that it's a bug in the interface. | 22:54 |
| nyergler | seems like it... at least worth pinging them | 22:55 |
| nkinkade | That it display 2 different locales with the same label. | 22:55 |
| nkinkade | I've pinged them on #transifex, but nothing useful yet. I also sent a message using their feedback form. I guess I'm wondering whether I should submit a bug or if indeed generally es and es_ES are considered synonyms. | 22:56 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, i just got an email saying the team was changed; the email referred to it as "Spanish (Castilian)"; | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: I just removed Michelle from the Spanish team. | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | She had been testing by clicking on various buttons and got herself on the team, but doesn't need to be there. :-) | 22:58 |
| nyergler | ok, the interesting thing is that it didn't say "(es)" -- maybe that's a different object in the system? | 22:58 |
| nkinkade | http://www.transifex.net/projects/p/CC/c/cc_org/ | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: ^^ If you look there you'll see the same label twice. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | Only when you hover the mouse over the edit icons can you see in the status bar that they are different locales. | 22:59 |
| nkinkade | In any case, I'm really hoping that Ignasi will want to work with the Latam people to produce a single Spanish translation and that es_ES won't be necessary at all. But I added it just in case, as a sort of backup. | 23:00 |
| nyergler | nkinkade, weirdly, the "(es)" links on both look like the same target | 23:00 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: They are in fact, which seems wrong to me. But on the edit icons you can see the diff. | 23:01 |
| nyergler | right | 23:01 |
| nyergler | i wonder if the two "bugs" are related | 23:01 |
| nkinkade | nyergler: Which is the other bug? Or maybe you're seeing the links as being a separate issue from the text label. | 23:04 |
| nkinkade | In any case, something is not right about that, and I'll wait to see if they respond to the feedback. If not, I'll file a bug. | 23:04 |
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