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| augustinas | sup | 14:30 |
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| greg-g | word to your mother | 14:32 |
| augustinas | ;-) | 14:32 |
| augustinas | Is there a way to check how looks cc license translation live ? | 14:32 |
| greg-g | :) | 14:32 |
| greg-g | hmmm, nkinkade would be the best person to ask. | 14:33 |
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| nkinkade | augustinas: Are you referring to translate.CC.org? | 15:48 |
| augustinas | nkinkade jep | 15:49 |
| nkinkade | If so, you need to go into "Show editing functions" then click Commit | 15:49 |
| nkinkade | Once you do that, the translations should be visible at URLs like: | 15:50 |
| nkinkade | http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.lt | 15:50 |
| nkinkade | augustinas: ^^ | 15:50 |
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| nkinkade | paroneayea: Looks like Deeds on staging aren't being served up as UTF-8. | 15:53 |
| nkinkade | It may be an Apache thing. | 15:53 |
| augustinas | nkinkade I don't see a commit button :} | 15:53 |
| nkinkade | But it seems we should be declaring a Character-encoding in the <head> somewhere, too. | 15:53 |
| nkinkade | augustinas: Did I give you translate rights for LT? | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | I thought I had, but I'll check now. | 15:54 |
| augustinas | jep, you did | 15:54 |
| nkinkade | So when you go here: http://translate.creativecommons.org/lt/cc_org/ | 15:56 |
| nkinkade | You don't see "Show Editing Functions" near the top ... and when you click it you don't see a "Commit' option near the middle-right of the page? | 15:56 |
| augustinas | and then "Show Editing Functions" | 15:56 |
| augustinas | nop | 15:57 |
| nkinkade | augustinas: Check again. | 15:57 |
| nkinkade | I just gave you Commit privs. | 15:57 |
| augustinas | ok, works now | 15:57 |
| augustinas | thanks | 15:57 |
| paroneayea | nkinkade: hm | 16:04 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Are you seeing that? | 16:04 |
| nkinkade | http://staging.creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.lt | 16:04 |
| nkinkade | In that Deed there are all sorts of screwy chars .. the encoding the browser is using is ISO-8859-1 | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | yeah I'm not sure why this happens, considering it is working here: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/deed.zh_HK | 16:05 |
| augustinas | http://pastebin.com/QL3NcUZ0 | 16:05 |
| nkinkade | Well, I'm pretty sure that on the live site we are forcing the default encoding to UTF-8 | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | yeah, I see that | 16:05 |
| nkinkade | Maybe we're not doing that on staging? | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | I'll do taht here | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | well you are, for: | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | <Location /licenses> | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | DirectoryIndex deed | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | DefaultType text/html | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | AddDefaultCharset utf-8 | 16:05 |
| paroneayea | </Location> | 16:06 |
| paroneayea | but I guess sometimes that doesn't happen during the proxying? | 16:06 |
| nkinkade | a7:~$ cat /etc/apache2/conf.d/charset | 16:06 |
| nkinkade | Someone commented out the line in that file that makes the default charset UTF-8. Who, when and why, I have no idea. | 16:06 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: I'd rather do it at the server level, as a default, that based on path. | 16:07 |
| paroneayea | okay, that works for me | 16:07 |
| nkinkade | In a perfect world, we'd never, ever publish anything that wasn't encoded as UTF-8. | 16:07 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: Before we change that value in the file I referenced, we might want to ask NRY or Alex if there's a reason it was commented out. | 16:08 |
| paroneayea | okay | 16:08 |
| paroneayea | I'll send an email to both | 16:08 |
| nkinkade | paroneayea: But even beyond that, we should also be declaring the character encoding in the <head>. | 16:09 |
| nkinkade | Currently we don't, and currently those Deeds fail to validate. | 16:09 |
| nkinkade | It's also sad that CC.org is declared as XHTML 1.0 Strict, yet it isn't. | 16:10 |
| nkinkade | It's bad form for CC to be touting we standards like RDFa, etc, and yet our own web pages fail to follow standards. | 16:11 |
| nkinkade | s/we/web/. | 16:11 |
| paroneayea | :< | 16:12 |
| augustinas | still | 16:16 |
| augustinas | i can't commit :( | 16:16 |
| nkinkade | augustinas: It works, just be patient. You may even get errors, but usually it still goes through. | 16:20 |
| nkinkade | Our translations platform is woefully old. We are going to be moving to something else in the near future. | 16:21 |
| nkinkade | If a Commit doesn't work, then perhaps try it again. | 16:21 |
| augustinas | yeah try again later ;]] | 16:22 |
| augustinas | nkinkade could you add pjurcys to 'lt' | 16:26 |
| nkinkade | augustinas: Sure. One sec. | 16:26 |
| nkinkade | augustinas: Better yet, I'm just going to give you admin rights for LT, then you can assign or take away perms for anyone you want. | 16:26 |
| nkinkade | augustinas: You should now be able to here to give/take rights to any Pootle user who has Lithuanian marked as one of their languages: http://translate.creativecommons.org/lt/cc_org/admin.html | 16:27 |
| nkinkade | I'll let you add pjurcys yourself. :-) | 16:28 |
| augustinas | thanks ;] | 16:28 |
| augustinas | oh btw is there any cms for cc.org | 16:34 |
| augustinas | i mean like creativecommons.nl | 16:34 |
| augustinas | or it's just same template | 16:35 |
| augustinas | I'm thinking about running wordpress :| | 16:37 |
| paroneayea | JED3: ping | 17:03 |
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| akozak | mralex, http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?1007 | 18:00 |
| mralex | akozak: yeah, i saw that | 18:00 |
| akozak | damn! | 18:00 |
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| akozak | thought i had a scoop on my hands | 18:01 |
| mralex | akozak: luke w is the web forms master too. | 18:01 |
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| akozak | good to know. i need to learn a lot more about form design. | 18:02 |
| mralex | i kepe meaning to buy his book, but haven't gotten around to it | 18:02 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea, you there? | 19:44 |
| paroneayea | JED3: yeah | 19:44 |
| JED3 | was your earlier ping's intention addressed by your last email to me? | 19:44 |
| paroneayea | one of the things was :) | 19:45 |
| paroneayea | the other thing is, where did you end up putting that locale fallback method you showed me yesterday? | 19:45 |
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| JED3 | oh, its in metadata_scraper/i18n_support.py | 19:46 |
| paroneayea | that's in the api? | 19:46 |
| paroneayea | er, the rest api package | 19:47 |
| JED3 | yeah after talking to you about i18n yesterday, i realized the rest api probably won't need any i18n of the sort since i think most/if-not-all will be handled in cc.license | 19:47 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, no, its just in the metadata_scraper | 19:47 |
| JED3 | which is a project in of itself | 19:47 |
| JED3 | in svn | 19:48 |
| paroneayea | ah okay | 19:48 |
| JED3 | its what we use to display referrer information on the deeds | 19:48 |
| JED3 | and also as a wsgi app thats modular enough to use in projects that need to scrape url's for RDFa triples | 19:48 |
| JED3 | (like the CC Network for instance) | 19:49 |
| paroneayea | gotcha.. cool | 19:54 |
| akozak | i really dislike the "retrieved from" link at the bottom of wiki pages | 20:16 |
| akozak | mralex, any objection to removing that from the CC wiki? | 20:18 |
| akozak | .printfooter { display:none } | 20:18 |
| akozak | I can do it in-wiki | 20:19 |
| mralex | what the, i thought i killed that already | 20:19 |
| mralex | bah | 20:19 |
| akozak | well I got rid of it | 20:19 |
| akozak | err... | 20:20 |
| JED3 | curry anyone? | 20:20 |
| akozak | JED3, no thanks, gonna get a marinara toaster oven sandwich w/ avocado | 20:21 |
| akozak | ! | 20:21 |
| akozak | which is amazing btw | 20:21 |
| JED3 | sounds it :) | 20:21 |
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| akozak | mralex, re: my odepo email, I've updated the main ODEPO page http://wiki.creativecommons.org/ODEPO | 22:09 |
| akozak | looks much better | 22:09 |
| mralex | turn off the center text align on the left column | 22:10 |
| mralex | the first letter bolding of o..d..e..p..o.. is unnecessary | 22:10 |
| akozak | ok changed | 22:11 |
| mralex | turn off the padding-left; and make padding-right: 30px; | 22:12 |
| mralex | mm, whitespace. | 22:12 |
| akozak | hmm | 22:12 |
| mralex | akozak: also, i think Browse the db should go at the top, more people want information than to provide information | 22:14 |
| akozak | mralex, ah ok. i was hoping to change that fact :) | 22:14 |
| akozak | but that makes sense | 22:14 |
| mralex | nope | 22:14 |
| akozak | cool thanks mralex | 22:17 |
| akozak | hmm, lowercase... | 22:19 |
| mralex | no | 22:19 |
| mralex | :) | 22:19 |
| akozak | haha ok | 22:19 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, ping | 22:31 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea, is there a way to get the description for an enum of a Question's answer? | 22:42 |
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| akozak | mralex, is a good rule of thumb "more important form fields go at the top"? | 22:46 |
| mralex | it can help | 22:46 |
| mralex | akozak: as it is right now, your odepo form isn't *too* bad | 22:47 |
| mralex | akozak: have you asked what the vital form items are and determined if any info can be left and added later? | 22:48 |
| paroneayea | JED3: oops, missed your question | 22:48 |
| akozak | mralex, cool, currently editing too | 22:48 |
| paroneayea | uh | 22:48 |
| akozak | hmm | 22:48 |
| mralex | akozak: also "Tags" input has "http://" in it.. that looks like an error. | 22:49 |
| akozak | that's... odd | 22:49 |
| akozak | mralex, do you mean to say that i could probably remove some lesser-important fields and then just depend on people to fill that in manually? | 22:50 |
| akozak | or maybe with a partial form? | 22:50 |
| paroneayea | JED3: do you have context for this question? | 22:51 |
| mralex | akozak: my only "beef" is "Organization Type" is a little too freeform and vague, IMO. if you can make that a dropdown with an Other option. | 22:51 |
| paroneayea | that question conused me; I don't know what you mean by enum I think | 22:51 |
| akozak | mralex, it's been freeform historically. ahrash and i went around and around on that and I was converted to his way of thinking | 22:51 |
| JED3 | >>> q = cc.license.selectors.choose('standard').questions() | 22:52 |
| JED3 | >>> q[0].answers() | 22:52 |
| JED3 | [('Yes', 'y'), ('No', 'n')] | 22:52 |
| mralex | akozak: i'm curious what his way of thinking was | 22:52 |
| akozak | it has auto-complete which is helpful | 22:52 |
| akozak | well | 22:52 |
| JED3 | so for the "Yes" enum it would have the description "The licensor permits others to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work, including for commercial purposes." | 22:52 |
| paroneayea | JED3: I think the sad answer is that I haven't dealt with this part of the API because I simply ported over the zope code in cc.engine | 22:54 |
| JED3 | ohh okay | 22:55 |
| paroneayea | iirc cc.engine's display, both in zope and in the current iteration, has those questions hardcoded :X | 22:55 |
| JED3 | paroneayea, hmm | 23:07 |
| JED3 | so I guess i will have to fetch messages form the catalog after all | 23:12 |
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| JED3 | paroneayea, you have a sec? | 23:35 |
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