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| pyrak | nathany, let me know when you get a chance to look at the ccsearch commit weirdness. i've written the code to fix the security bug and to implement wikimedia commons search | 16:21 |
| pyrak | though i don't have a tab image for WMC | 16:21 |
| pyrak | alex might want to do that. or i can probs do it this weekend | 16:22 |
| pyrak | of course, it's also worth discussing better functionality for the remove-frame issue | 16:24 |
| nathany | pyrak: i thought nkinkade fixed the merge weirdness on the ccsearch | 16:25 |
| pyrak | though if browsers _really_ don't want us to know what people are doing in iframes, i guess we have no options | 16:25 |
| nathany | pyrak: yes, we don't have any option for the iframe remover | 16:25 |
| pyrak | nathany, he did. i was talking about the PO file thing from yesterday | 16:25 |
| nkinkade | nathany: pyrak: The merge weirdness is over for me. | 16:25 |
| nathany | pyrak: oh, right | 16:25 |
| nkinkade | I merged in a change a few days ago without any problem. | 16:25 |
| nathany | nkinkade: right, sorry to bother, this is something else :) | 16:26 |
| nathany | pyrak: i'll look now | 16:26 |
| pyrak | nathany, k. i'm off to class for now | 16:26 |
| pyrak | so no rush | 16:27 |
| nathany | pyrak: ok, thanks for the ping | 16:27 |
| pyrak | mhm | 16:27 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: reading commits, looks like the translation stuff is coming together | 16:57 |
| nathany | one comment which you may have already addressed -- | 16:57 |
| paroneayea | nathany: :) | 16:57 |
| nathany | no need to limit yourself to dc:title on line 71 | 16:57 |
| nathany | (in support.py) | 16:57 |
| paroneayea | ah ok | 16:57 |
| nathany | that's what we're translating now but no reason it couldn't be the dc:description for a license, etc | 16:57 |
| nathany | paroneayea: oops, just realized i have unpulled commits; mea culpa if you've already fixed | 16:59 |
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| paroneayea | no, didn't fix that | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | but I just did :) | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | hm | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | AttributeError: 'URIRef' object has no attribute 'language' | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | I guess I should hasattr it? | 16:59 |
| paroneayea | hum | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | let's see.. | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | ok, yeah that works | 17:01 |
| paroneayea | pushed | 17:02 |
| mralex | nkinkade: is there a test pcp set up on Support yet? i want to make sure the picture upload works (and that the fault is only on zupport, for whatever reason) | 17:05 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I'm not sure. You can check at CiviCRM -> CiviContribute -> Personal Campaign Pages | 17:05 |
| mralex | nkinkade: where's the totally obvious, and i'm an idiot, way to create a new PCP? there's a bunch, but clearly i don't have access to edit. | 17:10 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I created a Teamspace page. Maybe you weren't copied on the email about it? | 17:10 |
| mralex | nkinkade: maybe, i thought i saw some instrcutions, but searching my email found nothing. | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/CiviCRM_Personal_Campaign_Pages | 17:11 |
| nkinkade | Email from Sept. 3, subject "personal campaign pages sample" | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | mralex: ^^ | 17:12 |
| mralex | nkinkade: ah, yeah, that's what I was thinking of. must have missed it in that long ass thread, just now. | 17:12 |
| nkinkade | Easy to do. That thread got a bit out of control. | 17:13 |
| paroneayea | it's that time | 17:13 |
| paroneayea | lunchtime | 17:13 |
| paroneayea | what to do for lunch | 17:13 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: Just sent you an email with the notification about the PCP you created. | 17:18 |
| mralex | nkinkade: great. and picture uploads certainly work on Support. | 17:20 |
| mralex | nkinkade: so I guess i'll push my changes and do the final tweaks there. | 17:21 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Yeah, I'm not 100% sure why images aren't working on zupport. | 17:21 |
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| paroneayea | ♥ꙍ♥ | 18:06 |
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| paroneayea | yay | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | so close to being done with this | 18:18 |
| paroneayea | rdf retooling stuff | 18:18 |
| akozak | paroneayea: what were you working on again? moving to a new translation schema? | 18:19 |
| akozak | oh I see, jurisdiction management | 18:19 |
| paroneayea | yep | 18:20 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: What do you know about the honor roll feature of PCPs? | 18:40 |
| nkinkade | That is, are we using it? I just sent an email to you and dev. | 18:40 |
| mralex | nkinkade: i have it included in the template -- although, i'm not using a <marquee>. do you want to know how it works? | 18:41 |
| mralex | melissa wanted me to keep it | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I'm wanting to know if we're going to use it at all. | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | The questions is whether is happens automatically or if it's opt-in. | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | If it's opt-in then that's yet another option we have to pass on to OneClick. | 18:41 |
| mralex | from the sql query, it looks automatic | 18:41 |
| nkinkade | It's optional in the default PCP setup, I thought. | 18:42 |
| mralex | it's optional to display it at all in the setup | 18:42 |
| mralex | but you can't opt your name out of it, regardless | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | if you look at a contribution with a PCP it has this: | 18:42 |
| nkinkade | "In Public Honor Roll? No"' | 18:43 |
| mralex | ah | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | That implies to me that it is opt-in. | 18:43 |
| nkinkade | It would be simplest if we just add every users name there, but I'm sure Mel will want it optional, so prepare to handle yet another variable. | 18:43 |
| mralex | right | 18:44 |
| mralex | nkinkade: do we allow people to opt out of having their names on /supporters? | 18:45 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Yeah. | 18:45 |
| mralex | sigh | 18:45 |
| mralex | make that two variables to add to oneclick | 18:45 |
| mralex | will PCP donors appear on /supporters too? i assume yes | 18:46 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Seems like we're juggling a lot of options behind the curtain. | 18:46 |
| mralex | nkinkade: indeed | 18:47 |
| paroneayea | nathany: ping | 18:54 |
| nathany | paroneayea: pong | 18:54 |
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| paroneayea | * /bin/license add --all --launched -j pr -v 3.0 | 18:55 |
| paroneayea | what is --launched supposed to do in this case? | 18:55 |
| paroneayea | I don't see any assertions in the license rdf files that state whether or not they are launched | 18:55 |
| nathany | paroneayea: what page is that on? | 18:55 |
| nathany | paroneayea: found it | 18:56 |
| nathany | paroneayea: one of two things: | 18:56 |
| nathany | either i spaced out and overzealously copied/pasted | 18:57 |
| nathany | or | 18:57 |
| nathany | a hypothetical use case where we add a launched flag and use that to control things on staging v. productoin | 18:57 |
| nathany | can you just edit the wiki page (http://teamspace.creativecommons.org/Jurisdiction_Management) and remove that flag and add a note indicating we may do something like that in the future | 18:57 |
| nathany | (so we have a stake in the ground, so to speak) | 18:57 |
| nkinkade | mralex: So Melissa says that it should be opt-out. | 18:59 |
| mralex | nkinkade: yep | 18:59 |
| nkinkade | I had been thinking opt-in, but it's all the same from a code perspective. | 19:00 |
| paroneayea | nathany: awesome, I think that means I've ticked off all my todo items on my list then? | 19:03 |
| paroneayea | for jurisdiction deployment | 19:03 |
| nathany | paroneayea: awesome! | 19:04 |
| nathany | paroneayea: at least one maintenance task -- we'll need to add the dc:title[i18n] assertions to the existing jurisdictions | 19:05 |
| nathany | probably a one-off to walk the graph, look @ the jurisdiction code, and add the country.xx assertion based on that | 19:05 |
| nathany | does that make sense? | 19:06 |
| nkinkade | mralex: "If this option is checked, an "honor roll" will be displayed with the names (or nicknames) of the people who donated through your fundraising page. (Donors will have the option to remain anonymous. Their names will NOT be listed.)" | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | Yet it's not clear to me where the option is to remain anonymous. I tried it and nothing showed up. | 19:09 |
| greg-g | haha, tobia is on the CC store relaunched blog post | 19:09 |
| nkinkade | I guess it doesn't really matter, as we'll be handling ourselves. | 19:09 |
| paroneayea | nathany: yeah | 19:09 |
| paroneayea | makes sense | 19:09 |
| paroneayea | I can write a script to do that | 19:10 |
| nkinkade | mralex: How about the variable name "hr"? | 19:10 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: we should plan to talk monday AM | 19:10 |
| nkinkade | hr=0 means not in honor roll. hr=1 means in honor roll. | 19:10 |
| nathany | i'm a little too fried today to talk coherently | 19:10 |
| nkinkade | nathany: ContributionProcessor.php now supports recurring contributions and I submitted patches to CiviCRM. | 19:11 |
| nathany | nkinkade: awesome | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | We're now just needing to finish this idea of honor roll. | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | I think this is pretty much ready to go. | 19:11 |
| nathany | great, glad to hear that | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | nathany: How about a Monday launch? | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | I don't like Friday rollouts. | 19:11 |
| nathany | nkinkade: that sounds perfect | 19:11 |
| nathany | neither do i | 19:11 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Do you think you can handle the honor roll stuff on your end by morning to mid day on Monday so that we can launch mid day Monday? | 19:12 |
| nkinkade | Also, unless you say otherwise, let's go with the variable scheme I mention above. | 19:12 |
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| paroneayea | nathany: yeah, just let me know whenever on monday | 19:17 |
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| nathany | paroneayea: will do | 19:18 |
| nathany | paroneayea: if i haven't pinged you by mid-morning, a reminder would be helpful :) | 19:18 |
| paroneayea | cool | 19:19 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: store/cart seems to be broken | 19:52 |
| nathany | nkinkade: http://identi.ca/notice/10735463 | 19:52 |
| nkinkade | nathany: Let me see. | 19:52 |
| nathany | i just confirmed | 19:52 |
| paroneayea | nathany: so it's cool that I'm using subcommands like `./bin/license add --foo` instead of `./bin/license --add --foo` then? | 19:53 |
| nathany | also, why do we ask for billing info if we're doing paypal | 19:53 |
| nathany | paroneayea: yes | 19:53 |
| paroneayea | cool | 19:53 |
| nathany | please update the wiki if you do that | 19:53 |
| paroneayea | well I'm going to update the wiki to | 19:53 |
| paroneayea | heh | 19:53 |
| paroneayea | yes | 19:53 |
| nathany | :) | 19:53 |
| paroneayea | doing that now | 19:53 |
| nathany | nkinkade: (the billing thing is less important, just noticed it) | 19:53 |
| nkinkade | I'm not sure that it's broken necessarily, but there must be a shipping quote. | 19:53 |
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| nkinkade | There may be a number of reasons why it won't give a shipping quote. | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | nathany: What do you mean billing? | 19:54 |
| nathany | nkinkade: when you review the cart it asks for your billing address | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | It bases the shipping quote on the shipping address. | 19:54 |
| nathany | right | 19:54 |
| nkinkade | I suppose if someone enters an address that the USPS can't figure out then it might fail. | 19:55 |
| nathany | but if you enter your shipping address it doesn't actually pull any shipping info | 19:55 |
| nathany | it failed fo rme | 19:55 |
| nathany | nkinkade: does my billing comment make sense now? | 19:55 |
| nkinkade | Numbers purchases worked over the past few days. let me try. | 19:55 |
| nkinkade | Yes, your billing comment makes sense now. | 19:55 |
| paroneayea | btw, out of curiosity, http://creativecommons.org/licenses/GPL/2.0/ | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | any reason cc hasn't made a human readable deed for 3.0? | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | probably not getting around to it? :) | 19:56 |
| nathany | nkinkade: yeah, trying a couple different addresses -- doesn't seem to pull shipping info when i click the calculate button | 19:56 |
| nathany | paroneayea: because we want to stop doing that | 19:56 |
| paroneayea | ah | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | rationale? | 19:57 |
| nkinkade | nathany: My immediate guess is that the USPS server is fucked. | 19:57 |
| nathany | people keep talking about the "CC GPL" which others interpret as us squatting on FSF licenses | 19:57 |
| paroneayea | ah. | 19:58 |
| nathany | paroneayea: ^^ and it's most appropriate for FSF to publish metadata, etc since they're the license publisher | 19:58 |
| nathany | paroneayea: and FSF is now publishing metadata for 3.0 licenses | 19:58 |
| nathany | (although not advertising it as much) | 19:58 |
| paroneayea | ah, gotcha | 19:58 |
| nathany | fwiw we need to deal with our software license "strategy" overall | 19:58 |
| nathany | incremental | 19:58 |
| nkinkade | mralex: You say you are able to get a shipping quote intermittently?? | 20:09 |
| mralex | nkinkade: it worked once. now i'm getting an xml response dump | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | I added the XML dump. | 20:10 |
| nkinkade | It appears to be a response from the USPS, which looks fairly normal. | 20:11 |
| nkinkade | Makes me wonder if there was an API change. | 20:11 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: ping | 21:03 |
| nkinkade | Hi. | 21:03 |
| nathany | are you looking @ a7? | 21:03 |
| nathany | i just saw the email + texts | 21:03 |
| nkinkade | I rebooted it. | 21:03 |
| nathany | nkinkade: great, thanks | 21:04 |
| nkinkade | And it just came back up. | 21:04 |
| nathany | nkinkade: presumably services are still coming back up? | 21:04 |
| nkinkade | Earlier I was SSHing in and got the motd, but no shell. Then in light of the store issue I just said Fuck It All and rebooted it. | 21:04 |
| nathany | right | 21:05 |
| nathany | thanks | 21:05 |
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| nkinkade | nathany: Do you get a shipping quote now? | 21:13 |
| nathany | nkinkade: checking | 21:14 |
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| nathany | nkinkade: yes | 21:14 |
| nathany | did we fix anything? | 21:14 |
| nathany | nkinkade: just saw your email | 21:15 |
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| nkinkade | mralex: Where do you stand on the hr=[0,1] stuff? | 21:21 |
| mralex | nkinkade: pending | 21:22 |
| mralex | nkinkade: if you can go ahead and add the option for honor roll AND /supporters list opt-[in, out], then that would be fine and wouldn't block me at all anyway | 21:23 |
| mralex | hmm, could the opt-in stuff be handled like the mailing lists setting? | 21:24 |
| mralex | "optin=honor:supporters" for instance | 21:24 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Do you mean optout? | 21:25 |
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| nkinkade | But yeah, that sounds reasonable to me. optout=pcproll:supporters | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | How about that? | 21:26 |
| mralex | sounds good | 21:26 |
| mralex | so if it's set, then names won't appear on the selected? | 21:26 |
| nkinkade | mralex: Right. Melissa wants the default to be in. | 21:27 |
| mralex | nkinkade: got it | 21:27 |
| nkinkade | So I'll make the script look for an optout= parameter. | 21:27 |
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| mralex | nkinkade: unrelated thing mel just asked me about... when somebody donates to a PCP, can Civi send an email to the PCP owner notifying them of the donation? | 21:30 |
| mralex | can and/or does | 21:30 |
| nkinkade | mralex: I'm sure it's possible. | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | If she wants that feature, tell her to file an issue or something. | 21:33 |
| nkinkade | I think that may even be a default feature. | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | mralex: ^^ | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | Anyway, I'm off a bit early today. | 21:38 |
| nkinkade | We can wrap up these loose ends over the weekend or early on Monday. | 21:38 |
| mralex | yeah, i'll be owrking on stuff tomorrow | 21:38 |
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