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alltax | Hello, world! | 09:39 |
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alltax | May I reseize a image that is under "No Derivative Work" and use it on a page where I have a webshop if the image is under "Noncommercial"? | 09:41 |
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bringatowel | dang people are so impatient, i would have answered alltax's question if he stuck around =P | 11:35 |
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bringatowel | hi egoleo :) | 11:35 |
egoleo | hey | 11:35 |
egoleo | cool | 11:35 |
egoleo | thnx | 11:35 |
egoleo | hey guys i am running newsafrican.com as a news site | 11:36 |
egoleo | what are the benefits to give this license to it | 11:36 |
bringatowel | one benefit i know, is that people can find out about your website more easily | 11:37 |
egoleo | how possible? | 11:37 |
bringatowel | some other website could use an article from your website, and they will link to you | 11:38 |
egoleo | oh ok | 11:38 |
egoleo | thnx | 11:38 |
bringatowel | here is one example of a US news site that has a Creative Commons license: http://home.wickedlocal.com/ | 11:39 |
egoleo | any more benefits from anyone in here | 11:39 |
egoleo | checking | 11:39 |
egoleo | cool man | 11:41 |
bringatowel | hey here is an explanation about your question if you can still have advertising: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_still_make_money_from_a_work_I_make_available_under_a_Creative_Commons_licenses.3F | 11:41 |
egoleo | i will be doing that | 11:41 |
egoleo | so where do i get the logo | 11:41 |
egoleo | from | 11:41 |
bringatowel | that is awesome to hear!! | 11:41 |
egoleo | and i can still charge for any adverts right | 11:42 |
bringatowel | if you pick one from http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/meet-the-licenses then there will be some logos on the next page | 11:43 |
bringatowel | yes definitely | 11:43 |
bringatowel | do you know which license you would prefer? | 11:44 |
egoleo | no | 11:44 |
egoleo | o dont | 11:44 |
egoleo | u might want to help me? | 11:44 |
bringatowel | i like to use the public domain one for my blog, but you might want to use the attribution one: http://creativecommons.org/license/results-one?license_code=by | 11:46 |
bringatowel | that means anyone can use it, but they have to give credit to your website | 11:46 |
egoleo | ok cool | 11:47 |
egoleo | thnx | 11:47 |
egoleo | so it means i cant have copyright from ma company too | 11:47 |
egoleo | bcos i want to build a company on it | 11:47 |
egoleo | when i done | 11:47 |
bringatowel | you still have copyright :) | 11:49 |
bringatowel | the CC licenses are terms whereby someone can use your copyrighted content | 11:49 |
bringatowel | however you still retain ownership | 11:49 |
bringatowel | if you do public domain, then it releases copyright, but all the other ones you still keep ownership of the copyright | 11:50 |
egoleo | so i choose the attribution | 11:51 |
egoleo | and so i can still keep ma copyright right from the company i will build | 11:51 |
bringatowel | yes exactly | 11:52 |
egoleo | thnx | 11:54 |
egoleo | will do that | 11:54 |
egoleo | and will let u see ok | 11:54 |
bringatowel | cool, that is great | 11:54 |
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becks | hi all, on my fressh cc install (4.5) , i have many errors, like | 14:42 |
becks | Table 'cchost.cc_tbl_collab_users' doesn't exist, Table 'cchost.cc_tbl_cart' doesn't exist | 14:42 |
becks | calling media/?update=1 and media/submit/pella for example | 14:43 |
becks | maybe is the wrong channel for cchost | 14:44 |
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nathany | paulproteus: did we ever figure out javascript i18n, or are we just faking it at the moment? | 15:20 |
paulproteus | nathany, voice | 15:21 |
paulproteus | I'm going to eat a bagel. | 15:21 |
stevel | paulproteus: hey :) i host @ cernio | 15:22 |
stevel | just saw your email | 15:22 |
paulproteus | stevel, That's what I remembered, but I figured it would be pretty lame to name-drop. (-: | 15:24 |
stevel | hehe | 15:24 |
paulproteus | Also I know Mark Burdett. | 15:24 |
paulproteus | mlinksva, Hey, you wanna chat with with the glorious SFC students in a month or so? (-: | 15:25 |
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paulproteus | http://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/pushbuttonreceivebacon.jpg | 15:37 |
paulproteus | For e.g. nathany | 15:37 |
paulproteus | c.f. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djwudi/2474670442/ , http://snaw.deviantart.com/art/Push-Button-Receive-Bacon-44540338 | 15:38 |
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mlinksva | paulproteus: i may be out of town, not sure yet | 15:49 |
paulproteus | mlinksva, Okay. | 15:49 |
mlinksva | i'll probably come to the conference if not | 15:50 |
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paulproteus | nathany, "mp3togo" seems the best for you. | 16:09 |
paulproteus | http://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:7rYrxcyBsGkJ:puddle.ca/mp3togo/+mp3togo&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=iceweasel-a | 16:09 |
paulproteus | Sadly its site is down. | 16:10 |
paulproteus | Stupid distributed Internet. | 16:10 |
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paulproteus | mplayer -ao pcm:file="dump.wav" $input_file | 16:11 |
paulproteus | lame dump.wav | 16:11 |
paulproteus | Supposedly "mplayer -ao pcm -aofile dump.wav" syntax works too and has more spaces, which as Pythonists we love. | 16:12 |
nathany | paulproteus: does git support anything like darcs cherry pick for selecting which individual diffs in a file to commit? | 16:27 |
paulproteus | git add -p | 16:27 |
nathany | thanks | 16:27 |
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mib_kseuem | hi | 17:02 |
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Steren | hi :) | 17:02 |
paulproteus | Howdy Steren! | 17:02 |
greg-g | heya Steren | 17:03 |
Steren | irc is blocked by my school network, I don't want to hack too much, so I use a web chat :/ | 17:03 |
greg-g | Steren: that is lame, how are you supposed to waste time during class? | 17:04 |
paulproteus | Oh, lame, you should circumvent more network restrictions. | 17:04 |
paulproteus | I have gstm set up on my laptop to create SSH tunnels automatically, and then I IRC over those. | 17:04 |
paulproteus | That's also the way I send email, as I think you know. | 17:05 |
Steren | greg-g: I guess MSN | 17:05 |
greg-g | secure by default | 17:05 |
paulproteus | Plus "Offend the network admins" by default. What's not to like? | 17:05 |
paulproteus | For bonus points, SSH over port 443 (https). | 17:05 |
greg-g | Steren: that, and RSS feeds :) | 17:05 |
paulproteus | For super bonus points, of course, do everything over port 53 (DNS). | 17:06 |
Steren | paulproteus: yes I was thinking about it, but I have to be carefull with the use of my connection, it's under very specific conditions | 17:07 |
paulproteus | For wacko nutso points, do everything literally over DNS. | 17:07 |
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paulproteus | Steren, That's the joy of SSH - it's always defensible. | 17:07 |
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paulproteus | I was just SSHing into my server. | 17:07 |
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paulproteus | The fact that IRC happens to flow over that as well as terminal typing is invisible to the people you're defending your use of SSH. | 17:08 |
Steren | And I'm SSHing the CC server so I actually have to use SSH | 17:08 |
* paulproteus nods | 17:08 | |
Steren | I've to go, some friends come to eat | 17:09 |
* greg-g waves | 17:09 | |
Steren | I'll be around tomorrow and after after | 17:09 |
Steren | good to see you online all | 17:09 |
paulproteus | You too! | 17:10 |
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nkinkade | paulproteus: Do you have free SATA ports on your machine? | 17:14 |
paulproteus | I think so. | 17:15 |
nkinkade | I'm wondering if there would be any advantage in pulling the drives from the backup machine and doing the mv-ing on your machine. | 17:15 |
is4 | Did Tim every make it back to Boston? | 17:15 |
paulproteus | I doubt there'd be much. | 17:15 |
is4 | He's been awol for a few days... | 17:15 |
paulproteus | What's the status like now, 60G done? | 17:16 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: 133GB done ... around 300GB to go. | 17:16 |
nkinkade | Which means another 24 to 48 hours. | 17:16 |
paulproteus | Oh, so only about two full days left, maybe even less. | 17:16 |
paulproteus | Yeah. | 17:16 |
nkinkade | I'm fairly astounded that it's taking so long. | 17:17 |
paulproteus | # wrote this to clean up a directory with 500 000 files in it. After | 17:18 |
paulproteus | # 8 hours of rm -rf, rm had only cut it down from 800 000 to 500 000 | 17:18 |
paulproteus | # files. | 17:18 |
paulproteus | -- http://www.mail-archive.com/kragen-hacks@canonical.org/msg00188.html | 17:18 |
nkinkade | I would imagine that we'd be getting at least 10M per second, sustained. In theory that should yield around 1G/100s | 17:18 |
nkinkade | Or maybe I've done the math all wrong. | 17:18 |
paulproteus | I wonder if this would be faster if you ^C'd the mv and used tar on both ends. | 17:18 |
paulproteus | Or rsync, really. | 17:18 |
paulproteus | Yeah, just use rsync. | 17:18 |
paulproteus | Just make sure to pass it the option to preserve hardlinks. | 17:18 |
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paulproteus | I'm pretty sure mv doesn't unlink until it's all done. | 17:19 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Do you know if mv preserves hard links be default? Maybe that's the problem. | 17:20 |
nkinkade | Or at least part of it. | 17:20 |
paulproteus | I think it does; I don't remember. | 17:20 |
nkinkade | Well, I think I'm going to ^c it right now and try using rsync. Because this present rate is ridiculous. | 17:21 |
paulproteus | From testing mv, it does preserve hardlinks. | 17:21 |
nkinkade | I'm just afraid that rsync will exhaust the memory. | 17:21 |
paulproteus | http://pastebin.com/m601dcee5 is my test. | 17:21 |
paulproteus | Is mv slow due to swapping, or CPU load, or disk wait, or what? | 17:21 |
nkinkade | I'm not sure. There was some swapping going on, though. | 17:22 |
nkinkade | The machine 256M, which is 4X what anyone would ever need. So I'm confused. | 17:22 |
paulproteus | What does top say about mv? | 17:23 |
paulproteus | S state mostly, D mostly, R mostly? | 17:23 |
nkinkade | And even Carsten "The Raster" has said recently on the openmoko-community list that 128 is a HUGE amount of memory, a luxurious amount. | 17:23 |
nkinkade | I've already ctrl-c'd it. | 17:23 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: http://pastebin.com/d7bf5d5f | 17:25 |
* paulproteus chuckles re: luxurious | 17:25 | |
paulproteus | Whoa. | 17:25 |
nkinkade | Looks like more of a memory thing. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | Yeah. Hard to say if rsync will really be better at this. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | Hey, I remember what I did in the past. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | I used NFS + rsync. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | I ran the rsync on my machine, but used NFS on the little machine to export its filesystem. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | I've got even more than 128MB of RAM. | 17:26 |
paulproteus | You wanna do / ask me to do that? I think you have root both places. | 17:28 |
nkinkade | http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/8/22/3034474: "128m is massive. it's unimaginably huge" | 17:30 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: ^^^ | 17:30 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: I'd be up for anything that might speed up that transfer, but do you think that the network would then become the bottleneck? | 17:31 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Probably not hugely so. | 17:31 |
nkinkade | It's just hard to believe that a disc-to-disc transfer would be slower than disc-to-network-to-disc. | 17:32 |
nkinkade | But in fairness to the backup machine, it's actually got 256M! | 17:33 |
paulproteus | nathany, I think I'm figuring out the problem. | 17:37 |
nathany | good :) | 17:37 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Golly gee whiz, that's *way* more than 128MB of RAM. | 17:37 |
nkinkade | Double even! | 17:38 |
paulproteus | You could try rsync first. | 17:39 |
paulproteus | If that looks good after 10 minutes, then great | 17:39 |
paulproteus | . | 17:39 |
paulproteus | Just be sure to pass -H or whatever for hard links. | 17:39 |
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nkinkade | I actually passed -lHogDtpr. | 17:53 |
paulproteus | "I Hog the Dtrace Pointer" | 18:05 |
paulproteus | But that's an 'l', so it's more like "Lisa, Hog the Dtrace Pointer." | 18:05 |
paulproteus | I have a friend Lisa who works at Sun, admittedly not on Dtrace. | 18:06 |
paulproteus | Lisa's nick on IRC is usually nine lowercase 'l's, so that even kinda makes sense. | 18:06 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: rsync failed. | 18:37 |
nkinkade | Out of Memory: Kill process 3530 (rsync) score 3948 and children. | 18:37 |
nkinkade | Out of memory: Killed process 3530 (rsync). | 18:37 |
paulproteus | OOM OOM Baby | 18:37 |
paulproteus | OOM OOM OOM OOM, mighty fine dollar. | 18:37 |
paulproteus | (There's a DDR song that goes, "Boom boom boom boom, mighty fine dollar.") | 18:37 |
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paulproteus | nIce nIce Baby. | 18:39 |
paulproteus | Anyway, where do we go from here? | 18:40 |
paulproteus | Oh, hey. | 18:40 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, I know the answer. | 18:40 |
paulproteus | dd the partition over, then resize2fs. | 18:40 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: Why would that be faster than mv? | 18:40 |
paulproteus | No filesystem operations, just raw block I/O. | 18:41 |
nkinkade | No fs stuff, just blocks of data. | 18:41 |
paulproteus | Ka-bang. | 18:41 |
nkinkade | Yeah. | 18:41 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: The problem is that there is already 133G of data on the new disk. | 18:41 |
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paulproteus | nathany, Bug properly fixed and pushed. | 21:31 |
nathany | woot | 21:31 |
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paulproteus | LHC Compact Muon Solenoid Experiment Webcams - http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html | 22:58 |
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paulproteus | http://lists.acm.jhu.edu/pipermail/acm/2008-September/007238.html | 23:52 |
paulproteus | As some of you already know, I think I'm hilarious. | 23:52 |
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