Wednesday, 2008-09-10

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alltaxHello, world!09:39
alltaxMay I reseize a image that is under "No Derivative Work" and use it on a page where I have a webshop if the image is under "Noncommercial"?09:41
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bringatoweldang people are so impatient, i would have answered alltax's question if he stuck around =P11:35
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bringatowelhi egoleo :)11:35
egoleohey11:35
egoleocool11:35
egoleothnx11:35
egoleohey guys i am running newsafrican.com as a news site11:36
egoleowhat are the benefits to give this license to it11:36
bringatowelone benefit i know, is that people can find out about your website more easily11:37
egoleohow possible?11:37
bringatowelsome other website could use an article from your website, and they will link to you11:38
egoleooh ok11:38
egoleothnx11:38
bringatowelhere is one example of a US news site that has a Creative Commons license: http://home.wickedlocal.com/11:39
egoleoany more benefits from anyone in here11:39
egoleochecking11:39
egoleocool man11:41
bringatowelhey here is an explanation about your question if you can still have advertising: http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_still_make_money_from_a_work_I_make_available_under_a_Creative_Commons_licenses.3F11:41
egoleoi will be doing that11:41
egoleoso where do i get the logo11:41
egoleofrom11:41
bringatowelthat is awesome to hear!!11:41
egoleoand i can still charge for any adverts right11:42
bringatowelif you pick one from http://creativecommons.org/about/licenses/meet-the-licenses then there will be some logos on the next page11:43
bringatowelyes definitely11:43
bringatoweldo you know which license you would prefer?11:44
egoleono11:44
egoleoo dont11:44
egoleou might want to help me?11:44
bringatoweli like to use the public domain one for my blog, but you might want to use the attribution one: http://creativecommons.org/license/results-one?license_code=by11:46
bringatowelthat means anyone can use it, but they have to give credit to your website11:46
egoleook cool11:47
egoleothnx11:47
egoleoso it means i cant have copyright from ma company too11:47
egoleobcos i want to build a company on it11:47
egoleowhen i done11:47
bringatowelyou still have copyright :)11:49
bringatowelthe CC licenses are terms whereby someone can use your copyrighted content11:49
bringatowelhowever you still retain ownership11:49
bringatowelif you do public domain, then it releases copyright, but all the other ones you still keep ownership of the copyright11:50
egoleoso i choose the attribution11:51
egoleoand so i can still keep ma copyright right from the company i will build11:51
bringatowelyes exactly11:52
egoleothnx11:54
egoleowill do that11:54
egoleoand will let u see ok11:54
bringatowelcool, that is great11:54
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beckshi all, on my fressh cc install (4.5) , i have many errors, like14:42
becksTable 'cchost.cc_tbl_collab_users' doesn't exist, Table 'cchost.cc_tbl_cart' doesn't exist14:42
beckscalling media/?update=1 and media/submit/pella for example14:43
becksmaybe is the wrong channel for cchost14:44
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nathanypaulproteus: did we ever figure out javascript i18n, or are we just faking it at the moment?15:20
paulproteusnathany, voice15:21
paulproteusI'm going to eat a bagel.15:21
stevelpaulproteus: hey :) i host @ cernio15:22
steveljust saw your email15:22
paulproteusstevel, That's what I remembered, but I figured it would be pretty lame to name-drop. (-:15:24
stevelhehe15:24
paulproteusAlso I know Mark Burdett.15:24
paulproteusmlinksva, Hey, you wanna chat with with the glorious SFC students in a month or so? (-:15:25
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paulproteushttp://onemansblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/pushbuttonreceivebacon.jpg15:37
paulproteusFor e.g. nathany15:37
paulproteusc.f. http://www.flickr.com/photos/djwudi/2474670442/ , http://snaw.deviantart.com/art/Push-Button-Receive-Bacon-4454033815:38
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mlinksvapaulproteus: i may be out of town, not sure yet15:49
paulproteusmlinksva, Okay.15:49
mlinksvai'll probably come to the conference if not15:50
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paulproteusnathany, "mp3togo" seems the best for you.16:09
paulproteushttp://209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:7rYrxcyBsGkJ:puddle.ca/mp3togo/+mp3togo&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=iceweasel-a16:09
paulproteusSadly its site is down.16:10
paulproteusStupid distributed Internet.16:10
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paulproteusmplayer -ao pcm:file="dump.wav" $input_file16:11
paulproteuslame dump.wav16:11
paulproteusSupposedly "mplayer -ao pcm -aofile dump.wav" syntax works too and has more spaces, which as Pythonists we love.16:12
nathanypaulproteus: does git support anything like darcs cherry pick for selecting which individual diffs in a file to commit?16:27
paulproteusgit add -p16:27
nathanythanks16:27
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mib_kseuemhi17:02
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Sterenhi :)17:02
paulproteusHowdy Steren!17:02
greg-gheya Steren17:03
Sterenirc is blocked by my school network, I don't want to hack too much, so I use a web chat :/17:03
greg-gSteren: that is lame, how are you supposed to waste time during class?17:04
paulproteusOh, lame, you should circumvent more network restrictions.17:04
paulproteusI have gstm set up on my laptop to create SSH tunnels automatically, and then I IRC over those.17:04
paulproteusThat's also the way I send email, as I think you know.17:05
Sterengreg-g: I guess MSN17:05
greg-gsecure by default17:05
paulproteusPlus "Offend the network admins" by default.  What's not to like?17:05
paulproteusFor bonus points, SSH over port 443 (https).17:05
greg-gSteren: that, and RSS feeds :)17:05
paulproteusFor super bonus points, of course, do everything over port 53 (DNS).17:06
Sterenpaulproteus: yes I was thinking about it, but I have to be carefull with the use of my connection, it's under very specific conditions17:07
paulproteusFor wacko nutso points, do everything literally over DNS.17:07
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paulproteusSteren, That's the joy of SSH - it's always defensible.17:07
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paulproteusI was just SSHing into my server.17:07
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paulproteusThe fact that IRC happens to flow over that as well as terminal typing is invisible to the people you're defending your use of SSH.17:08
SterenAnd I'm SSHing the CC server so I actually have to use SSH17:08
* paulproteus nods17:08
SterenI've to go, some friends come to eat17:09
* greg-g waves17:09
SterenI'll be around tomorrow and after after17:09
Sterengood to see you online all17:09
paulproteusYou too!17:10
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nkinkadepaulproteus: Do you have free SATA ports on your machine?17:14
paulproteusI think so.17:15
nkinkadeI'm wondering if there would be any advantage in pulling the drives from the backup machine and doing the mv-ing on your machine.17:15
is4Did Tim every make it back to Boston?17:15
paulproteusI doubt there'd be much.17:15
is4He's been awol for a few days...17:15
paulproteusWhat's the status like now, 60G done?17:16
nkinkadepaulproteus: 133GB done ... around 300GB to go.17:16
nkinkadeWhich means another 24 to 48 hours.17:16
paulproteusOh, so only about two full days left, maybe even less.17:16
paulproteusYeah.17:16
nkinkadeI'm fairly astounded that it's taking so long.17:17
paulproteus# wrote this to clean up a directory with 500 000 files in it.  After17:18
paulproteus# 8 hours of rm -rf, rm had only cut it down from 800 000 to 500 00017:18
paulproteus# files.17:18
paulproteus-- http://www.mail-archive.com/kragen-hacks@canonical.org/msg00188.html17:18
nkinkadeI would imagine that we'd be getting at least 10M per second, sustained.  In theory that should yield around 1G/100s17:18
nkinkadeOr maybe I've done the math all wrong.17:18
paulproteusI wonder if this would be faster if you ^C'd the mv and used tar on both ends.17:18
paulproteusOr rsync, really.17:18
paulproteusYeah, just use rsync.17:18
paulproteusJust make sure to pass it the option to preserve hardlinks.17:18
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paulproteusI'm pretty sure mv doesn't unlink until it's all done.17:19
nkinkadepaulproteus: Do you know if mv preserves hard links be default?  Maybe that's the problem.17:20
nkinkadeOr at least part of it.17:20
paulproteusI think it does; I don't remember.17:20
nkinkadeWell, I think I'm going to ^c it right now and try using rsync.  Because this present rate is ridiculous.17:21
paulproteusFrom testing mv, it does preserve hardlinks.17:21
nkinkadeI'm just afraid that rsync will exhaust the memory.17:21
paulproteushttp://pastebin.com/m601dcee5 is my test.17:21
paulproteusIs mv slow due to swapping, or CPU load, or disk wait, or what?17:21
nkinkadeI'm not sure.  There was some swapping going on, though.17:22
nkinkadeThe machine 256M, which is 4X what anyone would ever need.  So I'm confused.17:22
paulproteusWhat does top say about mv?17:23
paulproteusS state mostly, D mostly, R mostly?17:23
nkinkadeAnd even Carsten "The Raster" has said recently on the openmoko-community list that 128 is a HUGE amount of memory, a luxurious amount.17:23
nkinkadeI've already ctrl-c'd it.17:23
nkinkadepaulproteus: http://pastebin.com/d7bf5d5f17:25
* paulproteus chuckles re: luxurious17:25
paulproteusWhoa.17:25
nkinkadeLooks like more of a memory thing.17:25
paulproteusYeah.  Hard to say if rsync will really be better at this.17:25
paulproteusHey, I remember what I did in the past.17:25
paulproteusI used NFS + rsync.17:25
paulproteusI ran the rsync on my machine, but used NFS on the little machine to export its filesystem.17:25
paulproteusI've got even more than 128MB of RAM.17:26
paulproteusYou wanna do / ask me to do that?  I think you have root both places.17:28
nkinkadehttp://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/openmoko-community/2008/8/22/3034474:  "128m is massive. it's unimaginably huge"17:30
nkinkadepaulproteus: ^^^17:30
nkinkadepaulproteus: I'd be up for anything that might speed up that transfer, but do you think that the network would then become the bottleneck?17:31
paulproteusnkinkade, Probably not hugely so.17:31
nkinkadeIt's just hard to believe that a disc-to-disc transfer would be slower than disc-to-network-to-disc.17:32
nkinkadeBut in fairness to the backup machine, it's actually got 256M!17:33
paulproteusnathany, I think I'm figuring out the problem.17:37
nathanygood :)17:37
paulproteusnkinkade, Golly gee whiz, that's *way* more than 128MB of RAM.17:37
nkinkadeDouble even!17:38
paulproteusYou could try rsync first.17:39
paulproteusIf that looks good after 10 minutes, then great17:39
paulproteus.17:39
paulproteusJust be sure to pass -H or whatever for hard links.17:39
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nkinkadeI actually passed -lHogDtpr.17:53
paulproteus"I Hog the Dtrace Pointer"18:05
paulproteusBut that's an 'l', so it's more like "Lisa, Hog the Dtrace Pointer."18:05
paulproteusI have a friend Lisa who works at Sun, admittedly not on Dtrace.18:06
paulproteusLisa's nick on IRC is usually nine lowercase 'l's, so that even kinda makes sense.18:06
nkinkadepaulproteus: rsync failed.18:37
nkinkadeOut of Memory: Kill process 3530 (rsync) score 3948 and children.18:37
nkinkadeOut of memory: Killed process 3530 (rsync).18:37
paulproteusOOM OOM Baby18:37
paulproteusOOM OOM OOM OOM, mighty fine dollar.18:37
paulproteus(There's a DDR song that goes, "Boom boom boom boom, mighty fine dollar.")18:37
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paulproteusnIce nIce Baby.18:39
paulproteusAnyway, where do we go from here?18:40
paulproteusOh, hey.18:40
paulproteusnkinkade, I know the answer.18:40
paulproteusdd the partition over, then resize2fs.18:40
nkinkadepaulproteus: Why would that be faster than mv?18:40
paulproteusNo filesystem operations, just raw block I/O.18:41
nkinkadeNo fs stuff, just blocks of data.18:41
paulproteusKa-bang.18:41
nkinkadeYeah.18:41
nkinkadepaulproteus: The problem is that there is already 133G of data on the new disk.18:41
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paulproteusnathany, Bug properly fixed and pushed.21:31
nathanywoot21:31
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paulproteusLHC Compact Muon Solenoid Experiment Webcams - http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html22:58
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paulproteushttp://lists.acm.jhu.edu/pipermail/acm/2008-September/007238.html23:52
paulproteusAs some of you already know, I think I'm hilarious.23:52

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