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rejon | #openlibrary | 11:23 |
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CIA-3 | nyergler * r9245 /scicom/scholars/tags/sc_20080229/: Tagging current state of scholar's copyright work. | 12:48 |
nathany | rejon: FYI, we're not using "zero" to brand assertions these days, only dedications | 13:08 |
nathany | just for future reference | 13:09 |
paulproteus | nathany, Huh. | 13:09 |
CIA-3 | nyergler * r9246 /scicom/scholars/trunk/ (buildout.cfg setup.py): Prefer final releases of dependencies, stop being lame by asking for a dev version of SQLAlchemy. | 13:10 |
CIA-3 | nyergler * r9247 /scicom/scholars/trunk/scicom/scholars/ (static/js/help.js static/js/scholars.js templates/index.html): New, "modal" help dialogs. | 13:11 |
rejon | nathany: yah...its an old slide pre-cc-0 | 13:14 |
nathany | rejon: i figured as much, just wasn't sure if you were in the loop on that | 13:14 |
rejon | yah | 13:14 |
rejon | although, its somewhat confusing to keep it all str8 | 13:14 |
rejon | nathany: is there a tech update that shows it...i should drill into my head | 13:15 |
nathany | http://staging.creativecommons.org/license | 13:15 |
nathany | is 98% there | 13:15 |
rejon | very cool | 13:18 |
mecredis | rejon, any word from the pump audio folks? | 13:24 |
mecredis | the tunerooms guy just pinged me and it reminded me | 13:25 |
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nkinkade | Bovinity: you doing any work on the CC site that might cause Jurisdiction News to go away? | 14:21 |
Bovinity | no, has it? | 14:23 |
Bovinity | i did turn on the sociable plugin | 14:23 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: take a look | 14:23 |
nkinkade | does that function look familiar in any way? parse_w3cdtf() | 14:24 |
Bovinity | and now it's back. | 14:24 |
nkinkade | by the way, have we manually set the error reporting level of PHP that you know of. errors, warnings and notices should never ever come out on the production site. | 14:25 |
Bovinity | curious. perhaps sociable implements it too | 14:25 |
Bovinity | no, hasn't been set. | 14:26 |
nkinkade | So, I'm going to set that. Any objections? I'd rather see nothing, than some ugly error. | 14:26 |
nkinkade | error_reporting (0); | 14:27 |
nkinkade | It might make it slightly harder to detect brokenness, but at least it should prevent unsightly messages to spew. | 14:28 |
Bovinity | less confusing for users. | 14:28 |
Bovinity | ah, magpie defines parse_w3cdtf; sociable has an if (!funciton_exists(parse_w3cdtf. | 14:30 |
Bovinity | man, magpie is annoying | 14:30 |
nkinkade | weird. Bovinity: can you try enabling sociable again ... even with the brokenness? | 14:32 |
Bovinity | it's on | 14:32 |
nkinkade | I could do it here, but since you're presumably already in there. | 14:32 |
nkinkade | did you fix it already? | 14:32 |
Bovinity | no, turned it back on | 14:32 |
nkinkade | oops.. turn it back off! :) | 14:32 |
nkinkade | Apparently turning off error_reporting in the wp-config.php file doesn't work. Let me investigate. | 14:33 |
CIA-3 | bse * r9248 /ccwordpress/trunk/www/wp-content/plugins/creativecommons/creativecommons.php: Force the use of WP's built-in version of Magpie | 14:36 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: okay, now it's working. | 14:37 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: the error reportin? | 14:37 |
nkinkade | turns out that wp-settings.php was setting this already. I just changed it there. I activated sociable, and the Planet stuff goes away, but there is no evil message. | 14:37 |
nkinkade | I'm going to deactivate sociable now. | 14:38 |
nkinkade | So, at least you can work with it and not have to worry about warnings and errors and files-not-found and function-doesnt-exist, etc clutter the user interface. | 14:38 |
rejon | paulproteus: is there a quick way with kvm I can run our cc + olpc work? | 14:39 |
rejon | now that I've come to love kvm | 14:39 |
paulproteus | rejon, Hmm. | 14:39 |
paulproteus | Lemme think. | 14:39 |
paulproteus | rejon, You mean the license chooser integration? | 14:39 |
paulproteus | Or just the activity? | 14:39 |
paulproteus | The activity is way easy. | 14:39 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: ok, cool. i'll quickly test this change before bothering the production branch. | 14:39 |
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Bovinity | cool, all better now | 14:40 |
CIA-3 | bse * r9249 /ccwordpress/branches/production/ (. www/wp-content/plugins/creativecommons/creativecommons.php): | 14:41 |
CIA-3 | Merged revisions 9248 via svnmerge from | 14:41 |
CIA-3 | https://cctools.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/cctools/ccwordpress/trunk | 14:41 |
CIA-3 | ........ | 14:41 |
CIA-3 | r9248 | bse | 2008-02-29 14:36:39 -0600 (Fri, 29 Feb 2008) | 2 lines | 14:41 |
CIA-3 | Force the use of WP's built-in version of Magpie | 14:41 |
CIA-3 | ........ | 14:41 |
rejon | paulproteus: all the above | 14:41 |
paulproteus | rejon, You can run the activity easily. You're best off using sugar-jhbuild if you want to run our patches. | 14:43 |
paulproteus | I don't know how to generate a real XO image. | 14:43 |
paulproteus | I can do it, but not super easily. | 14:43 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: where does jsWidget get it's list of jurisdictions from? | 14:43 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, /me ponders | 14:43 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, I think it has some makefile that runs that extracts it out of licenses.xml. | 14:44 |
nkinkade | looks like in wpLicense on techblog that it's not getting the most up-to-date list | 14:44 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Interesting, let me check that out in a sec. | 14:44 |
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nkinkade | paulproteus: I'm about to head out for lunch, but I'll check in with you when I get back. Thanks! | 14:51 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Okay, sounds good. | 14:52 |
rejon | paulproteus: so how can I get an iso or image to run our stuff? | 15:09 |
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rejon | olpc kvm emulation: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Emulating_the_XO/Quick_Start/Linux | 15:14 |
paulproteus | It doesn't boot in KVM. | 15:18 |
paulproteus | I tried it. | 15:18 |
paulproteus | It does boot in qemu, even with kqemu. | 15:19 |
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rejon | http://dev.laptop.org/ticket/1809 | 15:27 |
paulproteus | rejon, Not related. | 15:35 |
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Bovinity | paulproteus: ping? | 15:57 |
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rejon | bov: he is on the way to the office | 16:04 |
rejon | nathany and him | 16:05 |
Bovinity | ah | 16:05 |
Bovinity | ok | 16:05 |
Bovinity | good | 16:05 |
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paulproteus | Bovinity, pong | 16:20 |
paulproteus | I'm working at home, I think. | 16:20 |
paulproteus | Unless I'm needed in the office in particular. What's up? | 16:20 |
Bovinity | paulproteus: need another livedvd burned | 16:21 |
paulproteus | Bovinity, Tell me more? | 16:21 |
paulproteus | Just a copy, or some changes? | 16:21 |
Bovinity | jsut a copy | 16:21 |
paulproteus | Phew. (-: | 16:21 |
paulproteus | I guess the courier has and has kept the one from before? | 16:21 |
Bovinity | the courier they sent didn't deliver | 16:21 |
paulproteus | Er, okay. | 16:21 |
paulproteus | Boy. | 16:21 |
paulproteus | I'll work on that immediately. | 16:22 |
Bovinity | another one is coming today who will, for sure, deliver | 16:22 |
* paulproteus wonders how this impacts SXSW delivery | 16:22 | |
paulproteus | Could you put a DVD+RW in my drive? Preferably the one labeled cc LiveContent Final on it, sitting on my desk. | 16:22 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: you've fixed everything with jsWidget and wpLicense, rigth? :) | 16:22 |
paulproteus | Expect something to eject by 3 PM. I'll verify some stuff here. | 16:22 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Let's talk about that around three. (-: | 16:23 |
nkinkade | I put the DVD in your computer. | 16:23 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: can you just give me a hint about what might need to be done and then I'll take it from there. some script? some svn update? | 16:24 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, If it's not urgent I'd prefer to wait until 3. | 16:24 |
Bovinity | courier coming around 4 | 16:25 |
paulproteus | Okay, cool. | 16:25 |
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Nerd42 | hey folks | 16:26 |
paulproteus | Man, I love tsocks. | 16:26 |
Nerd42 | i got a question: who did the song in the Mix Tape video on mirrors.creativecommons.org ? | 16:26 |
nkinkade | Nerd42: what is the URL? | 16:27 |
Nerd42 | of the video? http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/movingimages/Mix_Tape.mov | 16:27 |
Nerd42 | it was the second place winner in the fall 2003 video contest http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/ | 16:27 |
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Nerd42 | well i guess if nobody knows, too bad. :/ | 16:32 |
Nerd42 | wait, now i see it! | 16:32 |
Nerd42 | its at the end of the video | 16:32 |
paulproteus | (-: | 16:33 |
paulproteus | I was thinking, it has to be somewhere.... | 16:33 |
Nerd42 | bigego.com | 16:34 |
Nerd42 | only they dont seem to have the song | 16:34 |
Nerd42 | which is really weird | 16:35 |
Nerd42 | Seems kind of hypocritical where there's this really good song about how you should be able to change stuff with music and stuff and then thy dont release seperated studio elements | 16:35 |
Nerd42 | anoys the hell out of me that major signed artists release acapellas more often than many CC ones do | 16:37 |
nkinkade | Nerd42: hang on, i'm going to ask someone else if they know. | 16:38 |
Nerd42 | its like having to reinvent the wheel every time you want to try out an idea for making a change to a song. Recorded music should be open source too. That's what I say. | 16:38 |
* Nerd42 is on a bit of a rant rght now | 16:39 | |
Nerd42 | Just look at this crap: http://www.lpconcerts.com/remix/index.html | 16:39 |
Nerd42 | Why the hell can't they give those sounds to us in a usable form instead of forcing people to bootleg them? | 16:40 |
Nerd42 | this contest thing belongs at ccmixter like remember the name was | 16:41 |
Nerd42 | instead they're feeding us this flash-based crap that no serious person would ever use | 16:41 |
Nerd42 | Aha! found the mixtape track finally. http://bigego.com/mp3s/jbe-te-mix_tape.mp3 | 16:43 |
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nkinkade | Bovinity: paulproteus: do either of you know who setup the rssfwd.com stuff for our blog? | 16:46 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, mlinksva I think. | 16:46 |
nkinkade | thanks | 16:46 |
Bovinity | aye | 16:47 |
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nkinkade | they butchered one of the feeds ... the one about Free Beer from Michelle this morning. | 16:50 |
paulproteus | I think they're using Aaron Swartz's rss2email. | 16:51 |
nkinkade | She had some curly quotes in the post, and they converted them to quoted printable characters, the message got bounced by ibiblio for being spam. | 16:51 |
paulproteus | That's not the script's fault. | 16:51 |
nkinkade | well, not for being, but for appearing to be spam. | 16:51 |
paulproteus | That's stupid ibiblio's fault. | 16:51 |
nkinkade | why do you think it's ibiblio's fault? | 16:51 |
paulproteus | Sounds like they bounced an email for having quoted-printable-encoded curly quotes. | 16:51 |
paulproteus | That's pretty dumb. | 16:52 |
paulproteus | Since it, as it happens, wasn't spam. | 16:52 |
paulproteus | Known (even whitelisted in Mailman) sender, and all that. | 16:52 |
nkinkade | But the thing is that there were quoted printables all mixed into the HTML message. | 16:52 |
paulproteus | In an invalid way? | 16:52 |
paulproteus | They send mails with two parts. | 16:52 |
paulproteus | HTML and text. | 16:52 |
nkinkade | Not that I'm aware of, but I can't see why the message couldn't have been sent as UTF-8 and be done with it. | 16:53 |
paulproteus | SMTP is not 8-bit safe. | 16:53 |
paulproteus | It's spec'd not to be, as I recall. | 16:53 |
paulproteus | Someone could be feeding it through an EBCDIC UUCP gateway. | 16:53 |
nkinkade | Who knows. But this is completely an opt-in service. | 16:54 |
paulproteus | Or something similarly absurd. | 16:54 |
paulproteus | All I'm saying that if they sent email that required an 8-bit safe SMTP transport, then rssfwd.com would be doing something Clearly Wrong. | 16:55 |
nkinkade | Here was what ibiblios spam engine complained about: | 16:55 |
nkinkade | 3.2 HTML_OBFUSCATE_10_20 BODY: Message is 10% to 20% HTML obfuscation | 16:55 |
paulproteus | Hooray for SpamAssassin. | 16:55 |
* paulproteus rolls his eyes. | 16:55 | |
paulproteus | Sounds like it wasn't quoted-printable but , style escaped. | 16:55 |
paulproteus | Bovinity, My drive has ejected a verified LiveContent 2.0 final (seriously final) image. | 16:57 |
nkinkade | Well, the headers indicate that it was quoted-printable and it looks like quoted printable. This is actually the 2nd bounce in 2 days from ibiblio. Makes me think they just made some config changes to their spam filter. | 16:57 |
paulproteus | Well, it's not the quoted-printable that's being complained about. | 16:57 |
paulproteus | As I understand it. | 16:57 |
paulproteus | It's "HTML obfuscation", like !. | 16:57 |
paulproteus | Embedding UTF-8 in the quoted-printable-encoded HTML would be another way to do that would be reasonable. | 16:59 |
nkinkade | No, it's all quoted-printable stuff in there. | 16:59 |
paulproteus | Forward me a copy? | 16:59 |
paulproteus | My guess is they quoted-printable-encoded the whole message, but if you decode the quoted-printable encoding you'll get stuff HTML encoded like what I said. | 17:00 |
paulproteus | But I may be wrong about that. | 17:00 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: interestingly, the latest jurisdiction new post at CC.org has a date of 1969-12-31. :) | 17:01 |
paulproteus | 4 p.m. ? | 17:01 |
paulproteus | (Or 7 p.m.?) | 17:01 |
Bovinity | epoch fail! | 17:02 |
paulproteus | Bovinity++ | 17:02 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: you could be right about that. I'll forward you a copy of the message. and i'm about to check on that myself. | 17:05 |
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paulproteus | nkinkade, You should be able to just run "make" in any jswidget directory and have it update its jurisdictions. | 17:15 |
paulproteus | I just tested it and works fine for me locally. | 17:15 |
paulproteus | You should 'su' to me before you do it, I suppose. | 17:15 |
nkinkade | let me see what happens. thanks. | 17:16 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: is 0.92 the latest and greatest? | 17:19 |
paulproteus | Yup. | 17:20 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: that worked. it was fun being you for a few minutes. one thing i notice is that the dropdown is not sorted. looks like the same issue Nathan fixed with the main jurisdiction dropdown. | 17:25 |
paulproteus | nkinkade, Well, it is "sorted". | 17:25 |
paulproteus | Just not by the English full names. (-: | 17:25 |
paulproteus | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/JsWidget/Plan - nkinkade, jam sorting in the plan somewhere. (-: | 17:26 |
nkinkade | I've added it to the 0.99 todo. | 17:37 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: just to be sure, are you looking into the date issue with Jurisdiction News? | 17:38 |
nkinkade | I can do it, but if you were already fiddling, then no need for me to meddle. | 17:38 |
Bovinity | i haven't looked at it, no | 17:39 |
nkinkade | It must have to do with that function call error earlier. | 17:41 |
nkinkade | well, i guess what I meant to find out is if i need to worry about the issue, or if you were planning to handle it. | 17:42 |
Bovinity | oh, i thought oyu meant only htat one had the date error. | 17:45 |
Bovinity | yeah, could be due to the earlier fix. something wiht the WP magpie | 17:45 |
nkinkade | sorry, i wasn't specific enough. all of the dates are the epoch. | 17:48 |
paulproteus | Epoch o'clock. | 17:53 |
rejon | can you get pd in the license chooser? | 17:59 |
rejon | and/or updated cc zero stuff | 17:59 |
Bovinity | rejon: you still on for tomorrow? | 17:59 |
rejon | yah | 17:59 |
rejon | when and where | 17:59 |
rejon | what do you need me to do? | 18:00 |
Bovinity | cool, if you wanna meet me at my place around 10:45, gotta go to uhaul and get the truck. | 18:00 |
rejon | get that ninkade to help | 18:00 |
rejon | ;) | 18:00 |
rejon | i'm gonna have to be efficient...I have lots of biz stuff to do too | 18:01 |
rejon | non-cc junk | 18:01 |
Bovinity | just need your assistance in the morning to load up, then you can go :) | 18:01 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: paulproteus: if oyu guys are free in the morning, more hands the merrier | 18:02 |
Bovinity | i've got at least one, maybe two, others helping in the morning | 18:02 |
Bovinity | anyway, gotta go get my keys. will be online later. | 18:03 |
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rejon | sweet...sounds good | 18:34 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: true == (2008 modulo 4 is 0) and ((2008 modulo 100 is not 0) or (2008 modulo 400 is 0)) | 18:35 |
* paulproteus blinks | 18:35 | |
paulproteus | Uh, you should not use is there. | 18:35 |
paulproteus | First of all. | 18:35 |
nkinkade | it's not any actual language ... it's representational of an idea. | 18:36 |
paulproteus | >>> n = 1 | 18:36 |
paulproteus | >>> m = 1 | 18:36 |
paulproteus | >>> n is m | 18:36 |
paulproteus | True | 18:36 |
paulproteus | >>> n = n * 100000000000 | 18:36 |
paulproteus | >>> n = n / 100000000000 | 18:36 |
paulproteus | >>> n is m | 18:36 |
paulproteus | False | 18:36 |
paulproteus | But anyway. | 18:36 |
paulproteus | Looks like someone's doing leap year calculations. Okay? | 18:36 |
paulproteus | Oh, I forgot that modulo is not Python! | 18:36 |
nkinkade | Just thought you would find that little bit interesting ... | 18:37 |
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paulproteus | Keys and all, Bovinity? | 18:45 |
Bovinity | keys and random wifi signals | 18:45 |
nkinkade | just for you paulproteus: True == (2008%4 == 0) and ((2008%100 != 0) or (2008%400 == 0)) | 18:46 |
nkinkade | better? | 18:46 |
paulproteus | >>> year = 2008 | 18:48 |
paulproteus | >>> (year % 4 == 0) and ( (year / 100) % 4 == 0) | 18:48 |
paulproteus | True | 18:48 |
paulproteus | >>> year = 1900 | 18:48 |
paulproteus | >>> (year % 4 == 0) and ( (year / 100) % 4 == 0) | 18:48 |
paulproteus | False | 18:48 |
paulproteus | That's what I'd do. (-: | 18:48 |
paulproteus | I don't like writing "True == ...", I'd prefer to ask a question to Python and see the answer. | 18:49 |
paulproteus | s/Python/Lisp, bash, python, or whatever interpretive dance software system I'm using/ | 18:49 |
nkinkade | paulproteus: good heavens. The "True ==" part wasn't supposed to be taken as Python, but was just there to give some context to the statement. | 18:51 |
paulproteus | I know, but I fake things like this. | 18:52 |
paulproteus | If I wanted to claim something was true, I'd write either: | 18:52 |
paulproteus | assert b == "Your mom" | 18:52 |
paulproteus | or | 18:52 |
paulproteus | >>> b | 18:52 |
paulproteus | "Your mom" | 18:52 |
* paulproteus shrugs | 18:52 | |
paulproteus | The important thing, anyway, is the division of year by a hundred. | 18:54 |
nkinkade | and also 4 and 400. | 18:54 |
nkinkade | but I'm sure you'll take exception to that. | 18:54 |
nkinkade | :) | 18:54 |
paulproteus | I mean, that's the change I made between yours and mine | 18:54 |
paulproteus | (-: | 18:56 |
nkinkade | but why would you do (year/100)%4? | 18:56 |
paulproteus | Less logic, more math. | 18:56 |
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nkinkade | that's like saying less sense, more complexity | 18:58 |
paulproteus | Um, not at all. | 18:58 |
paulproteus | Bovinity, Your thoughts? | 18:58 |
nkinkade | the end result should be the same, but it just seems to that (year/100)%4 is more to write than 2008%4 | 18:59 |
paulproteus | ((2008%100 != 0) or (2008%400 == 0)) | 18:59 |
paulproteus | vs. | 18:59 |
paulproteus | ( (year / 100) % 4 == 0) | 19:00 |
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Bovinity | asheesh's works better for me in an if statement | 19:02 |
nkinkade | ah, now i see what you mean. | 19:02 |
nkinkade | i didn't see before that you had neatly combined two things into one statement. | 19:03 |
nkinkade | Bovinity: can you undo whatever changes you made to magpie that are now making the dates come out as the epoch? | 19:16 |
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Bovinity | if i can get an ssh out.. | 19:19 |
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nkinkade | if not, you can just tell me where to look. i poked around in the rss.php file, but didn't see anything with svn diff. | 19:25 |
nkinkade | I think Mike would like to make an announcement about the thing, and I hate to leave those dates off for the whole weekend. | 19:25 |
Bovinity | fixed it for now. the date formatting needs further investigation. | 19:26 |
Bovinity | also means no sociable until it's fixed | 19:26 |
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nkinkade | right, mike had me disable the plugin anyway. you may have seen his email already. | 19:27 |
Bovinity | oh yeah, about it going into the feeds | 19:28 |
nkinkade | right. | 19:28 |
Bovinity | nkinkade: thanks for agreeing to help out tomorrow. my address is up on teamspace, around 11:30 should be good. | 19:30 |
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nkinkade | paulproteus: something didn't sit right with me about the fact that you weren't explicitly checking for divisibility by 100 and now I see why. | 20:15 |
nkinkade | >>> year = 100 | 20:15 |
nkinkade | >>> (year % 4 == 0) and ((year/100) % 4 == 0) | 20:15 |
nkinkade | False | 20:15 |
nkinkade | wait, nevermind, i'm going to give up all attempts at math and defer to you from here forward :) seems like your method works in every case. | 20:19 |
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