Monday, 2006-12-04

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nathanymlinksva: i'm running the import now, updating a3.conf01:01
mlinksvanathany, cool!01:02
nathanymlinksva: so i'm copying /web/a3 to /web/cc3 to act as the new documentroot01:04
mlinksvai'll remove the auth from cc3/www/.htaccess01:07
nathanyalready done01:07
nathanyi think we're ready01:08
mlinksvaright, missed the # :)01:08
nathanyi'm updating the WP root URL right now01:09
nathanythen i'll go ahead and restart apache01:09
nathanymlinksva: and we're up01:10
mlinksvarejon, if it wasn't clear from emails, labs is delayed, probably till tomorrow afternoon01:10
nathanyshit01:10
nathanyneed to update the virtual host monster...01:10
nathanysigh01:10
mlinksvait seems the last two weeks of blog posts didn't make it01:11
nathanylooking @ it now01:11
cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: MAGNATUNE FOUNDER JOHN BUCKMAN JOINS CREATIVE COMMONS BOARD <http://creativecommons.org/press-releases/entry/6152> || CREATIVE COMMONS, XLR8R MAGAZINE, AND GHOSTLY INTERNATIONAL ANNOUNCE THE CHRISTOPHER WILLITS REMIX CONTEST ON CCMIXTER.ORG <http://creativecommons.org/press-releases/entry/6150> || Sun Microsystems Donates 25,000 <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6145> || CC Swag Photo Contest Week 1 Winner <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6144> || Creative Commons Launches Photo Contest on Flickr <http://creativecommons.org/press-releases/entry/6139> || Creative Commons launches the CC Swag Photo Contest on Flickr <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6137> || Call to all video artists who want to Support CC through Revverizing their videos <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6135> || Should CC release software licenses? <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6133> || Creative Ways to Support Creative Commons <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6127>01:14
nathanyok, this is weird...01:16
nathanythe entries appear in the manage page of wordpress, but don't render correctly01:16
mlinksvathey are in the 'blog' category instead of 'weblog'?01:17
mlinksvayeah, that's it01:18
nathanyhmm01:18
mlinksvai don't know where 'blog' is coming from01:18
mlinksvaalso press-releases shouldn't be showing up on the main page, i thought alex fixed that...01:18
nathanywait, they're supposed to be in weblog, not blog?01:19
nathanythe category manage page is only showing one entry in weblog, 1200-something in blog01:19
nathanyok, so if that's the problem i can re-run the import01:20
mlinksvai think that's the problem01:20
mlinksvai manually moved 2 to weblog01:20
nathanyok... for some reason i had the importer mapping them to blog01:21
nathanyand that made them show up?01:21
mlinksvayes01:21
nathanyok... one second01:21
nathanyre-running now01:21
nathanyok, that looks better... i'm going to restart squid to flush the cache01:23
mlinksvaarchive paging doesn't work, never goes beyond first page01:25
mlinksvai wonder why the importer messed up http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6158 in particular, every other one looks good01:26
mlinksvai'll just fix it manually01:26
nathanyis that your FOSS post?01:26
mlinksvayess01:26
nathanyit screwed that one up before, too...01:26
nathanyi have a text file on my machine, i think, w/ a corrected version...01:26
nathanyseemed like it misinterpreted lots of tags01:27
mlinksvadoes it not like urls with # ?01:27
nathanyhrm... maybe that's it01:27
nathanyi thought it was line breaking, but obviously the fix i applied didn't work01:28
nathanyi can't find that file... sorry... looking @ .htaccess now wrt archiving01:28
mlinksvai guess it isn't #'s i see others with them that look ok, so i'll just fix the foss one01:29
mlinksvanathany, /license seems to be non-css01:37
mlinksvaerr, scratch that01:38
nathanylooks like it was cached momentarily while the virtualhostmonster was borked01:38
mlinksvai think an error rather than css was being cacehe tempor01:38
mlinksvayes01:38
nathanyso the problem with /archives/page/n is that there wasn't a rule for that in .htaccess01:38
nathanyof course, the one i added didn't seem to work either :)01:39
mlinksvai think icommons.js is not included on the wp pages, i'll fix that01:40
nathanymlinksva: it also appears that the sub-categories are appearing in the parent category archive pages01:40
nathanyie, http://creativecommons.org/weblog/archive/2004/11/page/2/ includes press-releases (which is a subcategory of weblog)01:40
mlinksvan never increases past 2 either01:45
nathanyso is the archives link supposed to be /weblog/archives or just /weblog?01:46
nathanybecause /weblog/page/2 seems to work fine01:46
nathany(even though the header has the wrong text)01:46
mlinksva weblog/archives can redirect i guess, but it ought to work01:48
nathanyright... i'm looking now to see what the diff between the two rules is01:49
mlinksvahttp://creativecommons.org/weblog/archive/2004/page/3/ works01:49
nathanyright01:50
nathanyi just noticed in the .htaccess, "Archive" is always singular01:50
nathanybut we're doing... plural?01:50
mlinksvaas does01:50
mlinksvai think it should be singular01:50
mlinksvaso the link was just wrong01:51
nathanyaha01:51
nathanyok01:51
nathanydo you know which template that is?01:51
nathanyi can look if you don't...01:51
mlinksvaindex.php, just changed it01:51
nathanythanks01:52
nathanyok, so the header text is still wrong...01:52
nathany(well, maybe not...01:52
mlinksvalink at bottom of http://creativecommons.org/weblog/ should have archive in it though01:53
nathanyis CC News correct?01:53
mlinksvai know alex changed something to that, i guess so01:53
mlinksvaeric/fran gave him a bunch of text changes that i didn't look at, probably it is correct01:53
nathanyok01:54
nathanyso that link is generated by a PHP function01:54
nathanyi'm going to take a look @ the WP source to try and figure out where that lives01:54
mlinksvathx01:54
mlinksvaheh, the much debated description "Share, reuse, and remix — legally." gets into the rss feed automatically :)01:55
nathanyheh01:57
nathanyi didn't realize there was much debate :)01:57
nathanyso the link is generated by the permalink structure01:59
mlinksvasite load is about normal if not below, that's very good :)01:59
nathanygood02:00
mlinksvaa workaround would be to redir ^/weblog/$ to /weblog/archive/ i suppose02:00
nathanyso i'm honestly not sure how this all gets interpreted; i'm going to do a sqldump of the database and then try what i think will work02:00
nathanyright02:00
nathanythat might be better right now... i'm not exactly sure how the various extensions, etc interact w/the permalink settings02:01
mlinksvaok, i'll add it02:01
nathanyok, great02:01
nathanyas a redir, right?02:01
mlinksvayes02:02
mlinksvaodd though http://creativecommons.org/press-releases/page/2/ has the right link to 302:02
nathanybecause it's generating based on category name02:02
nathanyso we about have to do the redir workaround, otherwise it'll generate /press-releases/archive/page/202:03
nathany(since its going to try and generate the same URL pattern for /weblog/... ,/press-releases/..., etc02:03
nathanymlinksva: the Find header button roll-over is borked02:05
nathany(although is that possibly because "CC Licensed Work" has a line break?)02:05
nathanyyes, it was... removing the "CC" made it fit on one line and fixed the problem02:07
nathanyis that an OK [temporary] fix until Alex can look at that tomorrow?02:07
mlinksvayes02:08
nathanyi'll send him an email02:08
nathanyfuck02:11
nathanythe /support pages are back to their screwy ways... looks like my CSS changes were overwritten02:12
mlinksvalooks fine to me02:13
mlinksvareload?02:13
mlinksvai think alex did some further tweaks to them02:13
nathanyah, you're right!02:14
nathanyhurrah!02:14
mlinksvanice!02:14
mlinksvai think nothing is horribly broken!02:14
mlinksvanow it just has to hold up02:14
nathanylol02:14
nathanyso things seem sane now, huh?02:15
mlinksvasquid caching seems to have been working great -- lots of pages i get the old one until i reload02:15
mlinksvayeah, it is sane02:15
nathanyyeah, i thought restarting flushed that, but i suppose those will trickle out02:15
mlinksva /license/ is getting maxtransient objects exceeded02:16
mlinksvai assume that is nothing new02:16
mlinksvaok now02:16
nathanyoh it showed up that way in your browser or in the log?02:17
mlinksvabrowser02:17
mlinksvait was a templateless zope error02:17
nathanyweird02:17
nathanybut refreshing took care of it?02:17
mlinksvayes02:17
nathanyok02:17
nathanyi doubt that's anything new... but i'll take a look @ it first thing tomorrow AM02:18
nathanyif things seem calm and you don't mind, i'm gonna go grab something to eat... i'll be 5-10 min from a connection if all hell breaks loose02:19
nathany(if you'd prefer i hang around, i absolutely can)02:19
mlinksvanathany, go ahead02:19
nathanyok, thanks02:20
nathanyping me if you need any assistance...02:20
mlinksvaok, many thanks!02:20
nathanywell hopefully it really was that easy ;)02:20
nathanysee you online tomorrow if not before02:20
mlinksvaok02:20
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rejonit looks good02:23
rejonmlinksva: yeah, I figured post ll changes02:24
rejonI've almost got them done on this end02:24
rejonpost stepping out several times02:24
rejonwhen will ann. go out?02:24
mlinksvarejon, not sure at this point, depends on the puzzle02:31
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rejonaha...02:32
mlinksvamore changes have been added :(02:32
rejonyeah02:32
rejonI think better to wait a week on ann.02:32
rejonthe website changeover is pretty big pr on its own02:32
rejonthe labs will get lost02:32
rejonI'm thinking we make an SVN module cclib-www02:34
rejonand I'm going to start throwing these bits in there02:34
rejonso we can then use around our site02:34
rejonin the future we could have other repositories cclib-c, cclib-java, etc if we want02:34
rejonor better just use cclib/php cclib/js cclib/c02:35
mlinksvacclib-www seems fine02:37
rejonOk, I'm thinking the latter now...preparing the future...gotta map out these scripts so we can reduce our future work02:38
cchelpbotNew news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: NetzpolitikTV interviews Lessig <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/7128>03:26
paulproteusmlinksva, "Jennifer Yipp"?04:19
mlinksvapaulproteus, odd, users were imported by a script, so it must be wrong someplace, fixed anyhow, thanks!04:22
* paulproteus is reading the BOFH series for the first time04:42
WillySillyBoy does ASP and IIS suck04:45
paulproteusMan, BOFH is good stuff.04:48
paulproteusYou know, it just struck me.04:48
paulproteusFor all the groceries I bought yesterday, I didn't buy any dessert.04:48
WillySillyFor shame04:48
rejonmlinksva: so when do comments turn on ;)05:42
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ASCIIGir1hi :)06:06
rejonhi06:06
ASCIIGir1does anybody know the real name of the developer of ccpublisher? Im packaging it for Debian06:07
ASCIIGir1nathan R. Yergler?06:08
rejoncool!06:08
rejonyes, nathan yergler is the lead dev.06:08
rejonthat is great06:08
rejonhe is not on here right now06:09
ASCIIGir1but he is usually aroun?06:09
ASCIIGir1around?06:09
rejonnot on this channel06:09
rejonhe was here earlier though06:09
rejonhis email is06:09
rejonnathan06:09
rejon@06:09
rejoncreativecommons.org06:10
ASCIIGir1perfect...06:10
ASCIIGir1Ill write to him when I finish the package ;)06:10
rejonwe would like to get other cc software into debian06:10
ASCIIGir1I have no problem to work on that...06:10
rejonwe have another project, cchost that we would like to get in06:10
ASCIIGir1url?06:10
rejonhttp://wiki.creativecommons.org/cchost06:10
rejonI have it currently with lots of packaging support06:10
rejonmake dist06:10
rejonit makes rpm06:11
rejontarball, bzip2ball, zip, etc06:11
rejonI'm jon06:11
rejon@creativecommons.org06:11
ASCIIGir1web stuf?06:11
cchelpbotrejon: Error: "creativecommons.org" is not a valid command.06:11
rejonyes06:11
rejonlike mediawiki or wordpress06:11
ASCIIGir1nice...lets start with ccpublisher.... ;) web stuff its quite difficult on debian...but I can make an efford ;)06:12
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gavinbaker...did the site just get a redesign, or am i crazy?06:16
gavinbakerincluding new license icons?06:16
rejonyep, it is the new site06:16
rejonnot fully announced yet...06:16
rejonso please test it out and let us know if it is breaking ;)06:16
rejonASCIIGir1: This is great!06:16
rejonhowever we can help you get this going...06:17
ASCIIGir1Im sure Ill need your help rejon  ;) so if you dont mind Ill stay around this channel while working on this packages06:17
gavinbakerrejon, i appreciate that the new generated licenses are xhtml compliant (style=border-width: 0 rather than border=0)06:18
rejoncool06:18
rejonyep...06:18
rejonthere is much more to come06:18
gavinbakeri would like to see a title tag though06:18
gavinbakerso that when you hover, it shows the full license name06:18
gavinbakerin case someone does not yet know what "cc by sa" means06:19
rejonyah, agree...I wish we had a bug tracker for cc site06:19
rejongood point06:19
rejonmlinksva: how should we handle these requests06:19
rejonI wish we could track these06:19
ASCIIGir1some bugzilla or something like that?06:21
rejonyah06:21
rejonthat would be good06:21
rejonI would love to see this type of thing added for more community feedback and to channelt he power of developers06:21
rejonwe could use our sf.net site for this06:21
ASCIIGir1you might want to check the bts that debian uses.....its huge, maybe extremly huge if you only want to keep track of the website...but you can take ideas from there06:23
ASCIIGir1http://bugs.debian.org06:24
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rejonthx06:41
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paulproteusmlinksva, Is http://mirrors.creativecommons.org/happybirthday/ expected to 403?17:21
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mlinksvai vaguely recall that yes it is17:31
paulproteusIt could be a little friendlier of a page, at least.17:40
paulproteusBut okay.17:41
paulproteusI suppose this time next year, if I say that, you might say, "You're right, go fix that"!17:41
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paulproteushttp://creativecommons.org/tools/ccpublisher is timing out.18:32
paulproteusmlinksva, (see above)18:32
nathanypaulproteus: yes, we're working on ironing out some performance problems18:32
paulproteusmlinksva, Er, it didn't time out, it just took ca. 20 seconds.18:33
paulproteusnathany, Cool, keep at it then. (-:18:33
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rejonI wish we had a bug/issue tracker for our generic projects like website18:45
* paulproteus suggests Launchpad18:46
paulproteusOr something else that looks pretty.18:46
paulproteusTrac also comes to mind.18:46
paulproteus(Trac is self-hosted, Launchpad is an evil web app.)18:47
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rejonyah, launchpad is confusing IMO18:47
paulproteusI'd also be willing to help set one up, 'cause I'm a big fan of issue trackers too.18:47
bovinitytrac is nice18:47
rejonyah, I feel like there is nothing generic enough for non-coders and general enough for "issues" and not just bugs or features18:48
rejonIt would be great to channel peoples energies/comments18:48
paulproteusWell, RT is about being generic.18:50
paulproteusTrac isn't bad when you configure it to be about "issues" rather than code.18:50
paulproteusBugzilla, of course, sucks at this.18:50
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nathanyrejon, paulproteus: bovinity: roundup?19:29
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paulproteusnathany, Don't know about Roundup; never used it.20:55
nathanywe already use it for some things, its just really lightweight and flexible20:55
paulproteusSounds fine, then. (-:20:56
paulproteusIn fact, it'd be nice to use fewer TODO files.20:58
nathanysee http://roundup.sf.net20:58
paulproteusI just crawled around it.20:59
paulproteusIt's not as colorful as Trac, sadly, but otherwise looks nice.20:59
bovinityi'm sure it can be styled in a similar manner21:00
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