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| tannewt | rejon, will you be at the Foundations of Open Media Software conference in Sydney? | 05:19 |
| rejon | no, I didn't get invited.... | 05:20 |
| rejon | i woudl go | 05:20 |
| rejon | are you offering a free trip ? | 05:22 |
| rejon | :) | 05:22 |
| tannewt | I am not, but I'll hopefully be there | 05:24 |
| rejon | cool | 05:24 |
| tannewt | I can talk with the people running it | 05:24 |
| rejon | yeah, I would like to do a AU trip | 05:24 |
| rejon | have many mates there | 05:24 |
| rejon | and want to head up to monash, there are several inkscape devs at that uni | 05:25 |
| tannewt | excellent, I've wanted to do that trip too, not sure how its going to work with uni though | 05:33 |
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| sylvinus | mlinksva, u there ? | 19:45 |
| sylvinus | I wonder if there is an inconsistency in the cc api | 19:45 |
| sylvinus | http://api.creativecommons.org/rest/1.5/details?license-uri=http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ | 19:45 |
| sylvinus | => I get the 2.5 license. Great, I suppose the update is retroactive. But in this case shouldn't http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/2.0/ have a redirect to the 2.5 one ? | 19:46 |
| sylvinus | (ok I just saw the "a new version" | 19:47 |
| sylvinus | sorry ;) | 19:47 |
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| mlinksva | sylvinus, you probably shouldn't get the 2.5 license when you specifically ask for 2.0. i'll talk to nyergler about it. | 20:04 |
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| rejon | d | 20:15 |
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| mk | hello | 21:02 |
| rejon | hi | 21:03 |
| mk | I'd like to have a license or any ability to put work into the public domain or equivalent | 21:04 |
| mk | in all jurisdictions | 21:04 |
| mk | the public domain dedication doesn't seem to cover that, or does it? | 21:05 |
| bkhl | That wouldn't be possible. | 21:05 |
| mk | can you explain some of the problems? | 21:05 |
| bkhl | Not all jurisdictions has an equivalent of public domain. | 21:05 |
| bkhl | Not all that has allows you to simply dedicate something to it. | 21:06 |
| mk | for those that don't, can the work be released under a license that disavows all rights of the author? | 21:06 |
| bkhl | Dunno. | 21:07 |
| mk | is it possible to say "I dedicate this to the public domain. where this is not possible, [waive all rights]" | 21:07 |
| bkhl | You can, but it's nearly impossible to say with certainty that this would have effect in _every_ jurisdiction. | 21:08 |
| mk | The Contributor hereby grants all rights to this Work to all entities, free of charge and without condition. Any person, organization, or any other entity under any jurisdiction that obtains, from any source, a copy of the Work may deal in the Work without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, import or export, make derivitive works of, publicly perform or display, sell copies or reprod | 21:09 |
| mk | 21:09 | |
| mk | If permissable, the Contributor hereby irrevocably dedicates the Work to the public domain. | 21:09 |
| bkhl | That would probably get you quite far. | 21:10 |
| mk | it's a modified bsd license, with the conditions for the copyright notice and disclaimer removed | 21:10 |
| bkhl | The disclaimer might still be a good idea... | 21:10 |
| mk | assuming the BSD license is valid, it should work | 21:10 |
| bkhl | I don't know if it's been tested in court. | 21:11 |
| bkhl | But it certainly has a lot of practical use to fall back on. | 21:11 |
| mk | for jurisdictions that are... well, "strange", a publisher etc. would probably know about the relevant pitfalls. like say if X law somewhere says that it's impossible to waive some right... | 21:12 |
| mk | hmm, perhaps something about the contributor asserting that they will not sue? | 21:12 |
| bkhl | Well, you can't assert stuff like that in a license. | 21:13 |
| bkhl | Breaking the license will at most make the license void. | 21:13 |
| mk | is it possible to have some sort of equivalent? | 21:14 |
| mk | and what does "certify" mean? I see for example "certifies that, to the best of his knowledge, the work of authorship identified is in the public domain of the country from which the work is published" in cc publicdomain | 21:15 |
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