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| WillySilly | hey Luke | 01:16 |
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| SlashLife | Hey there. :) Are there any precedences for releasing source code under the terms of a CC license? | 07:21 |
| bkhl | I would think so. | 07:50 |
| bkhl | But not even any of the CC-related projects themselves do it, even, I think. | 07:51 |
| poningru | but its not recommended | 07:53 |
| poningru | the way it defines derivative etc. is really meant for artwork | 07:53 |
| poningru | not for code | 07:53 |
| bkhl | Exactly. | 07:54 |
| poningru | SlashLife: why are you looking into releasing your code under cc? | 07:56 |
| poningru | there are other license for code that give basically the same things... | 07:56 |
| bkhl | Unless you want/need the no-commercial clause you should be fine just choosing between BSD/MIT/X and GNU GPL, in fact. | 07:59 |
| bkhl | Not sure if there's a good/well known software license corresponding to BY-NC-(SA?) | 08:00 |
| poningru | hmm | 08:04 |
| poningru | well almost all Free code license have sa | 08:04 |
| poningru | err attribution | 08:04 |
| * poningru forgets what sa is for | 08:04 | |
| bkhl | Share alike. | 08:04 |
| bkhl | There's certainly options there. | 08:05 |
| poningru | ah right | 08:05 |
| bkhl | So the question was about NC. | 08:05 |
| poningru | yeah I have seen a couple iirc | 08:05 |
| poningru | hold on let me check | 08:05 |
| bkhl | Though we don't really know if that's SlashLife's problem, unless he comes back... | 08:05 |
| poningru | here we go | 08:08 |
| poningru | scilab | 08:08 |
| poningru | err scilab license | 08:08 |
| bkhl | That might be something for a wiki page. | 08:08 |
| bkhl | I.e. "Which FOSS licenses can I choose from that more or less corresponds to CC license configuration X?" | 08:09 |
| poningru | http://www.cs.utah.edu/~gk/teem/txt/LICENSE.txt | 08:09 |
| poningru | hmm true | 08:09 |
| poningru | http://www.scilab.org/legal/license.html | 08:10 |
| bkhl | That might work, if you adapt the references to the university and the state of Utah. | 08:10 |
| poningru | right | 08:10 |
| poningru | so two I have found so far | 08:10 |
| poningru | the utah license and the scilab license | 08:10 |
| bkhl | I guess there's plenty of academic licenses like that. | 08:11 |
| bkhl | The question is which is most suited to be used generally. | 08:11 |
| poningru | yeah... the problem is some of them especially the utah one are not so... enforcable | 08:11 |
| poningru | atleast under the US | 08:12 |
| poningru | imho | 08:12 |
| poningru | but ianal | 08:12 |
| SlashLife | Well... CC BY-NC-SA fits best what I want for my code. :| | 08:23 |
| SlashLife | I'm writing a library, so the terms of BY-NC-SA include that people don't have to release their source as long as they are using my library unchanged. :| | 08:24 |
| SlashLife | So far I've been planning to release under the terms of the LGPL... but the LGPL doesn't require attribution or non commercial use. | 08:25 |
| bkhl | Err... | 08:25 |
| bkhl | Actually I would say it doesn't include that. | 08:26 |
| bkhl | Since CC doesn't cover compilation. | 08:26 |
| bkhl | So whether a compiled binary is a derivative work is pretty open issue. | 08:26 |
| bkhl | But probably it would be, IANAL. | 08:26 |
| SlashLife | bkhl: Well... taking the examples on the web page, I'd consider linking against the library using the photo as is in the catalogue. | 08:27 |
| poningru | actually iirc lgpl does require attribution | 08:27 |
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| SlashLife | However, changing the source would be changing the photo, wouldn't it? =) | 08:28 |
| SlashLife | Besides the license deed is a nice thing for all of us who aren't lawyers. | 08:29 |
| bkhl | SlashLife: I don't think it's that clear. | 08:31 |
| bkhl | You would really have to hire a lawyer of the jurisdiction in question to get an idea. | 08:32 |
| bkhl | This is why it's probably not so great to use this license for something it's not meant. | 08:32 |
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| SlashLife | Too bad. :\ | 08:37 |
| poningru | SlashLife: I would go with lgpl | 08:43 |
| poningru | but that does not have nc | 08:43 |
| tannewt | but share-alike undermines commercial uses | 08:48 |
| poningru | how does sa undermine commercial use? | 08:50 |
| tannewt | buy it once and give it away for free | 08:50 |
| poningru | simply because the commercial entity does not want to release the stuff they used for free + changes they made | 08:51 |
| tannewt | ? | 08:52 |
| * poningru assumed you were talking about ms like companies crying about gpl's strong copyleft | 08:52 | |
| tannewt | not really anything specific | 08:53 |
| poningru | and lgpl has weak sa | 08:54 |
| tannewt | I'm basing it on CC's sa | 08:54 |
| SlashLife | Mhh... I've just taken a look at QPL. :| | 08:55 |
| SlashLife | tannewt: Btw.: As long as they don't change my code, they don't have to publish their source. | 08:57 |
| SlashLife | (with LGPL) | 08:58 |
| tannewt | ah, I see | 08:58 |
| SlashLife | I'm fine with people using my library for closed source software, though... as long as they are not trying to make money with it and giving me credit... :\ | 09:00 |
| SlashLife | CC BY-NC-SA combines all of this. | 09:01 |
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| SlashLife | Ok, thanks so far. I guess I'll check whether it's possible to have a general unrestriction of some of the terms of the QPL and use this if it's possible. | 10:02 |
| SlashLife | Have a nice day and thanks for the help. | 10:02 |
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