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| whiteg | rejon: ping | 03:12 |
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| rejon | hi whiteg | 03:23 |
| rejon | and tannewt | 03:23 |
| whiteg | hi, I think what we will do is ask the developer send their code to the ccHost project | 03:25 |
| whiteg | but you decide wheather to accept or not | 03:25 |
| rejon | great, that would be good | 03:25 |
| rejon | who is the developer? | 03:25 |
| whiteg | we will have a private branch for developing our website | 03:26 |
| rejon | the best is to break up the code into logical pieces | 03:26 |
| whiteg | not known yet, it will be a outsourced project | 03:26 |
| rejon | why do you want to make it a private branch? | 03:26 |
| rejon | I really think you should try to stick to the main codebase as much as possible and push for features you need on the mailing list | 03:26 |
| rejon | I think that it will take/cost you much time to maintain your own private branch | 03:27 |
| whiteg | because it will be easier for our developers doing this project.. | 03:27 |
| rejon | (although I don't know exactly what you are doing) | 03:27 |
| rejon | how many developers and who are they? | 03:27 |
| rejon | I would be more inclined and super supportive of the idea of having them send us one patch and after review, give them access so they can make their changes to the working code | 03:28 |
| whiteg | okay, I can require the developers sending patches to you | 03:28 |
| rejon | also, at least if they go this way of having a private branch, then they can keep it together with ccHost's SVN repository | 03:29 |
| rejon | it would be good to get those developers to come into here and we can talk about | 03:29 |
| rejon | jedi can help | 03:29 |
| rejon | he already has access to ccHOst to make changes | 03:29 |
| whiteg | but I cannot regulate how they develope it. | 03:29 |
| whiteg | we are still looking for developers | 03:29 |
| rejon | it will save us so much work if we all work together on the main trunk | 03:29 |
| whiteg | understood | 03:30 |
| rejon | honestly, whiteg, I will go out of my way to help them if you guys decide to keep the code together in our trunk and not do a private tree | 03:31 |
| rejon | and I will be happy, and it will make ccHost developers happy, and that means you guys will be happy :) | 03:32 |
| whiteg | :) | 03:32 |
| rejon | cool | 03:32 |
| whiteg | I cannot promise this | 03:32 |
| whiteg | what I can do in the contract is require the developer sending their code back to ccHost developing team | 03:33 |
| rejon | honestly, I've worked on a few projects that tried to maintain their own private tree, and they usually fail because it A.) takes too much admin B.) takes too much time to roll changes back into the main project C.) is pseudo-against the idea of building open source community | 03:33 |
| rejon | so you guys are outsourcing this to developers? | 03:34 |
| whiteg | yes. | 03:34 |
| rejon | ok, well, you can just require them to work with our community | 03:34 |
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| rejon | work with our process | 03:34 |
| rejon | its easy...they can interface with me | 03:34 |
| rejon | all is well | 03:34 |
| rejon | nonetheless, any contribution is a good contribution :) | 03:35 |
| whiteg | hum.. I will discuss this with my boss. | 03:35 |
| rejon | Ok, I can discuss with him as well | 03:35 |
| rejon | woudl you like this? | 03:35 |
| whiteg | and send you a requirement spec later | 03:35 |
| whiteg | today. | 03:36 |
| rejon | I can explain to him the point of the open source community and how this helps creative commons and open source, icommons, etc | 03:36 |
| whiteg | i think they know well.:) | 03:36 |
| rejon | I know, but if I can help in any way, please let me know | 03:36 |
| rejon | I don't want to be patronizing, but help | 03:37 |
| whiteg | the fact is, for an outsourcing project, it is hard to say if developers want to work with other teams. | 03:38 |
| whiteg | I will try my best. | 03:38 |
| rejon | Ok, but its not hard in a contract to require this :) | 03:38 |
| whiteg | yes, and hope we can find developers.:) | 03:39 |
| tannewt | hi rejon | 03:40 |
| rejon | cool | 03:40 |
| rejon | I think you will find many in TW | 03:40 |
| rejon | tannewt: hi | 03:40 |
| rejon | the other thought I have is to first see how many of these features we are already working on | 03:41 |
| tannewt | rejon, sorry ran outside to get pics of the sunset | 03:41 |
| rejon | whiteg: myself and victor stone are paid to work on ccHost | 03:41 |
| rejon | so, if what you need overlaps, then its very likely we will work and set aside time | 03:41 |
| whiteg | yes, I know that. | 03:41 |
| rejon | so the more you talk about the specs. on the mailing list, etc, the more we can help | 03:42 |
| whiteg | okay | 03:42 |
| whiteg | now everything is still in Chinese | 03:42 |
| whiteg | I need time translating them into English | 03:42 |
| rejon | cool | 03:44 |
| rejon | it would be great to see...and also send the chinese :) | 03:44 |
| rejon | My gf. can read to me | 03:44 |
| whiteg | oh, cool. | 03:45 |
| whiteg | sure | 03:45 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Consider requiring them to use the development tool called "svk" for tracking their commits and then send us the svk repository. | 03:54 |
| rejon | that is true as well | 03:56 |
| rejon | although, I would much rather gain the developers on ccHost and get them access and have them work on a branch on our repository | 03:57 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Agreed, that would be much much better. | 03:57 |
| rejon | paulproteus: you back east now? | 04:06 |
| paulproteus | rejon, Yup. | 04:06 |
| rejon | cool | 04:06 |
| paulproteus | In Rochester, NY. | 04:06 |
| paulproteus | A bustling hub of Web 2.0 activity. | 04:07 |
| WillySilly | whoa, activity in here | 04:07 |
| rejon | paulproteus: runnnnnn!!!!! | 04:12 |
| paulproteus | rejon, It's okay: I'm lying. | 04:12 |
| rejon | WillySilly: cchelpbot is always active | 04:12 |
| WillySilly | lol | 04:13 |
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| bkhl | mlinksva: I hear that MediaWiki has some feature now that allows one to have changes to pages in ones watchlist sent by e-mail. | 17:35 |
| bkhl | I would appreciate that on the CC wiki. | 17:36 |
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| mlinksva | bkhl, it is probably only in 1.7.x. we need to upgrade to php5 first. on my list... | 18:07 |
| mlinksva | (mw1.7 requires php5) | 18:07 |
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| bkhl | OK. | 18:11 |
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| rejon | cool...broke 21! | 18:16 |
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| rejo1 | hi | 20:56 |
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| rejon | hi | 21:07 |
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| paulproteus | Yo rejon. | 21:27 |
| rejon | yo | 21:27 |
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| cchelpbot | New news from http://creativecommons.org/weblog/rss: Alter Tempo - New Peruvian CCers <http://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/6027> | 22:29 |
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| keescook | rejon: does asheesh ever show up here? | 22:36 |
| rejon | yep, he is paulproteus | 22:36 |
| keescook | oh! | 22:37 |
| keescook | paulproteus: ping. :) | 22:37 |
| paulproteus | lol. | 22:37 |
| paulproteus | Hi. | 22:37 |
| keescook | I just sent you email, but I'm waaay to impatient. :) | 22:37 |
| keescook | s/to/too | 22:37 |
| bovinity | hey kees | 22:38 |
| keescook | I'm trying to figure out how to get pgp keyservers to drop old uids... | 22:38 |
| paulproteus | Nice to see you 'round. | 22:38 |
| paulproteus | keescook, In general, they refuse to. | 22:38 |
| keescook | hiya bovinity | 22:38 |
| keescook | yeah. what's weird is, I swear I've done it in the past | 22:38 |
| keescook | I have some ancient email addresses that I don't want showing up there, and I swear I'd managed to purge them before. | 22:39 |
| keescook | but that was like 3 years ago | 22:39 |
| paulproteus | I'm worried that key server synchronization means that if you delete them from all but one key server, they'll re-propagate. | 22:39 |
| paulproteus | There might be a blacklist-key feature in the popular key servers. | 22:39 |
| paulproteus | If there's that, then you might be in luck. | 22:40 |
| keescook | will they expire? | 22:40 |
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| paulproteus | I don't think so.... | 22:40 |
| keescook | (i.e. my old expiration was 2007-03-21, and I extended it to 2007-08-18, but not for those uids, it seems) | 22:40 |
| keescook | gah. | 22:41 |
| keescook | so only serious option is to revoke, and gen a new key? | 22:41 |
| keescook | do revoked keys disappear from key servers, or do they stick around too? | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | I'm confused. | 22:42 |
| keescook | me too! :) | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | keescook, First of all, why can't you still extend it? | 22:42 |
| keescook | I can, I just don't want the old uid's hanging around | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | Oh. | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | So you could revoke the old UIDs, I guess. | 22:42 |
| paulproteus | You can revoke on a per-ID basis, as I understand it. | 22:43 |
| keescook | can I revoke on a per-uid basis? it sounded like I could only do the entire key | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | I'm pretty sure I've seen per-UID revocations. | 22:43 |
| paulproteus | Also, btw, I just joined #gnupg since some there likely know more than I do about this. (-: | 22:43 |
| keescook | hehe | 22:43 |
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| paulproteus | So any luck with the key? | 22:51 |
| paulproteus | If you can't revoke certan UIDs, you can at least let them expire. | 22:51 |
| keescook | yeah, seems like they'll expire. | 22:51 |
| keescook | cool, thanks. | 22:52 |
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| rejon | hmmm...is there a gtk-based language browser | 22:54 |
| rejon | hmmm | 22:54 |
| rejon | need to switch languages graphically | 22:54 |
| paulproteus | in gnome-termina, do: export LOCALE=pg_BR.UTF-8 | 22:54 |
| paulproteus | (-/ | 22:54 |
| paulproteus | Er, (-; . | 22:54 |
| rejon | no | 22:54 |
| rejon | want graphic | 22:54 |
| rejon | al | 22:54 |
| paulproteus | I know, I'm just being unhelpful. | 22:55 |
| bovinity | ubuntu may include one in the user preferences menu, but htat doesnt help you mr gentoo | 22:55 |
| paulproteus | $ sudo emerge ubuntu-desktop | 22:55 |
| bovinity | haha | 22:55 |
| rejon | just searched for ubuntu in portage | 22:56 |
| rejon | nothing | 22:56 |
| rejon | ;) | 22:56 |
| poningru | rofl | 22:56 |
| paulproteus | Aww, kees is gone. | 22:57 |
| bovinity | hm, one benefit of being inthe office | 22:58 |
| bovinity | free blackberries | 22:58 |
| rejon | nah | 22:58 |
| bovinity | if you're into blackberries, of course | 22:58 |
| * paulproteus drools | 22:59 | |
| poningru | who isnt? | 22:59 |
| poningru | oh and dont you mean crackberry? | 22:59 |
| paulproteus | poningru, You fool, he means fruit. | 23:00 |
| bovinity | crackberries aren't quite as juicy i find | 23:00 |
| poningru | wtf | 23:00 |
| poningru | ROFlMAO | 23:00 |
| * bovinity checks his ical on his cranberry | 23:00 | |
| poningru | XD | 23:00 |
| * paulproteus uses blueberries as a personal analog assistant | 23:00 | |
| poningru | omg that needs to go on some qdb | 23:00 |
| poningru | so kapors office gives away free blackberries? | 23:01 |
| * poningru doesnt remember that | 23:01 | |
| bovinity | there's a vast array of fruits | 23:01 |
| paulproteus | bovinity, What's the excuse this time? | 23:01 |
| paulproteus | Some soup company, or something else? | 23:01 |
| bovinity | lol, no idea | 23:01 |
| poningru | well the kitchen there I liked | 23:01 |
| poningru | but it was still under construction when I visited | 23:02 |
| bovinity | omg, i think the coconut is gone | 23:02 |
| poningru | bovinity: barathye? | 23:03 |
| bovinity | excuse me? | 23:03 |
| poningru | sorry nm | 23:03 |
| * poningru thought you were indian | 23:04 | |
| poningru | thats hindi | 23:04 |
| bovinity | sorry, almost.. i'm british. | 23:04 |
| poningru | almost?? rofl | 23:04 |
| bovinity | bad commonwealth joke. | 23:05 |
| poningru | hehe | 23:05 |
| poningru | hey atleast I laughed | 23:06 |
| poningru | is the office still a mac shop? | 23:06 |
| * poningru gags at the thought | 23:06 | |
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