| paulproteus | mlinksva, Well, that was fun. | 00:05 |
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| rejon | ah, i totally missed...sorry | 00:09 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus, i assume that's good | 00:20 |
| paulproteus | Yup. | 00:21 |
| paulproteus | He had one complaint about the graphs - apparently the percentage of "sa" licenses should be out of the non-nd licenses not out of the total. | 00:22 |
| paulproteus | And apparently it used to be graphed that way? | 00:22 |
| mlinksva | no, it never was graphed that way | 00:23 |
| paulproteus | Oh, then maybe he was mistaken. | 00:23 |
| mlinksva | i think we've had that discussion before | 00:23 |
| paulproteus | "we" == you and him? | 00:23 |
| mlinksva | right | 00:23 |
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| paulproteus | Well, uh, maybe you should have it again or something. (-: | 00:24 |
| mlinksva | i guess it would be ok to switch to showing sa as a % of derivs | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | It'd make the generation of the graphs much harder, I think. | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | Since they would no longer have the same denominator. | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | Wait, actually, I can do that. | 00:24 |
| paulproteus | It would require changing a function or two or three, but I can see how it wouldn't be totally crazy. | 00:24 |
| mlinksva | \ | 00:25 |
| mlinksva | oops | 00:25 |
| paulproteus | It also complicates what's supposed to show up as the y axis title. | 00:28 |
| mlinksva | maybe the SA bar should be in a different color or otherwise have some kind of explanation that it isn't using the same denominator | 00:29 |
| paulproteus | The label could be "sa (out of non-nd)". | 00:29 |
| mlinksva | well i wouldn't make it a top priority. let's go over what's outstanding tomorrow morning | 00:29 |
| mlinksva | yeah | 00:29 |
| mlinksva | that label makes sense | 00:29 |
| mlinksva | do the nc survey comments make sense to you? | 00:30 |
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| paulproteus | I haven't read them yet. | 00:30 |
| paulproteus | Why, do they not make sense? | 00:30 |
| mlinksva | i've only skimmed them, they didn't obviously not make sense :) | 00:31 |
| paulproteus | I'm doing "heavy skimming" and it seems to make sense. (-: | 00:32 |
| paulproteus | Great, it does make sense. | 00:33 |
| paulproteus | I'll look at that tomorrow. | 00:33 |
| paulproteus | There's still more stats stuff to be done. | 00:33 |
| paulproteus | Also, Larry suggested opening up e.g. SQL dumps to the public for people who want to toy with our stats data. | 00:34 |
| paulproteus | Oh, also, when I showed him the web side of both the nc survey and the license stats, I showed it to him in a Firefox window with 58 tabs. | 00:36 |
| paulproteus | LinuxWorld stuff - the booth is Tuesday, Wed, Thurs? | 00:38 |
| mlinksva | hmm, coincindentally i have a window now with 56 tabs open. more than that some of the tabs are inaccessable apart from tab stack manipulation | 00:40 |
| mlinksva | right on lw dates | 00:41 |
| mlinksva | i'm glad larry suggested that! | 00:41 |
| paulproteus | I'm now going to walk http://maps.google.com/maps?daddr=3410+Hillview+Ave,+Palo+Alto,+CA+94304+%4037.400869,-122.145289&saddr=559+Nathan+Abbott+Way,+Stanford,+CA+94305-8610&f=li&cid=&ie=UTF8&om=1 to get to http://sfbayacm.org/events/2006-08-09.php from Stanford Law. | 00:43 |
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| mlinksva | sounds like a fun talk | 00:45 |
| mlinksva | depending on which room it is at SAP you may have an incredible view over the bay | 00:46 |
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| rejon | i like low hanging fruit | 16:42 |
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| rejon | http://creativecommons.org/image/ getting error | 16:52 |
| paulproteus | rejon, worked for me. | 17:06 |
| paulproteus | A momentary Zope problem, perhaps? | 17:06 |
| rejon | i think so | 17:06 |
| rejon | zopeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!! | 17:06 |
| paulproteus | khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! | 17:06 |
| rejon | hahahahahaha | 17:06 |
| rejon | man, star trek is really trippy to watch | 17:07 |
| rejon | watch the 1st movie | 17:07 |
| bovinity | haha | 17:07 |
| rejon | sooooooo loooonggg | 17:07 |
| rejon | that wormhole scene takes like 30 minutes | 17:07 |
| rejon | for them to hit photon torpedoooooooooooessssss | 17:07 |
| rejon | http://youtube.com/watch?v=krekCBcdk9E | 17:08 |
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| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/Text | 17:13 |
| rejon | mlinksva: what else should go on those pages | 17:14 |
| rejon | i'm just fleshing out one | 17:14 |
| rejon | http://creativecommons.org/text/ | 17:15 |
| rejon | how much can be moved over, right? | 17:15 |
| mlinksva | rejon, i have no idea what should go in that article. you got the Books link right | 17:15 |
| rejon | ok...leaving light and loose | 17:15 |
| mlinksva | that page is going to just be composed from blog posts | 17:16 |
| rejon | right...better | 17:16 |
| paulproteus | So, uh, should http://www.lustfilms.com/thegoodgirl/download.htm be on the movies page? | 17:18 |
| rejon | hahahaha | 17:18 |
| rejon | i checked that out a few days ago and why i was laughing a minute ago | 17:18 |
| rejon | hahahaha | 17:18 |
| paulproteus | It does in fact have a Wikipedia entry. | 17:18 |
| rejon | its actually pretty good | 17:18 |
| rejon | and its not the only one | 17:19 |
| rejon | there is some traci lords films as well | 17:19 |
| paulproteus | Oh, wait, Wikipedia's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Girl is about something else. | 17:19 |
| paulproteus | rejon, URL? | 17:19 |
| rejon | google baby | 17:19 |
| paulproteus | Oh, sweet, CC by-sa! | 17:20 |
| paulproteus | That's what I'm talking about! | 17:20 |
| paulproteus | Oh, wait, that's just a page that describes some Traci Lords film, not the movie itself. | 17:20 |
| mlinksva | evanpro, pdf added to $wgFileExtensions | 17:21 |
| paulproteus | I'm still having trouble finding it but I'll deal with it later. | 17:21 |
| rejon | there should be a plugin for filetypes | 17:22 |
| rejon | and to upgrade their capabilities for upload | 17:22 |
| cchelpbot | New news from http://wiki.creativecommons.org/wiki/index.php?title=special:recentchanges&feed=rss: User:Dbl2010 <http://wiki.creativecommons.org/User:Dbl2010> | 17:25 |
| rejon | My name is A. Özgür Erdemli. I am bureaucrat and administrator of Turkish Wikipedia (Vikipedi) as user Dbl2010. I believe in open source, free knowledge, copyleft philosophies. | 17:26 |
| mlinksva | paulproteus, what is by-sa? iirc "lust, the good girl" or something like that is by-nc-nd. | 17:26 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, I thought that the Traci Lords film rejon is talking about was by-sa, but instead I just found some web page about an arbitrary Traci Lords film where the page is by-sa, which is meaningless in this context. | 17:26 |
| evanpro | mlinksva: great | 17:27 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2006-January/003125.html refers to Laura Lynch <http://creativecommons.org/about/people#19> but I can't seem to find her on creativecommons.org. Do you know what's up with that? | 17:30 |
| evanpro | Upload file | 17:31 |
| evanpro | From CcWiki | 17:31 |
| evanpro | The upload directory (/web/wiki2/www/wiki/images) is not writable by the webserver. | 17:31 |
| evanpro | eep! | 17:31 |
| rejon | evanpro: how man CA salons are there now? | 17:32 |
| evanpro | rejon: 2 AFAIK | 17:32 |
| paulproteus | evanpro, I'll chown it right now. | 17:32 |
| rejon | cool | 17:32 |
| rejon | how did they go? | 17:32 |
| evanpro | The Montreal one in July was good | 17:32 |
| evanpro | I haven't been back to Toronto | 17:32 |
| rejon | how many ppl? | 17:32 |
| evanpro | So i can't say | 17:32 |
| bovinity | paulproteus: http://creativecommons.org/about/alumni#19 | 17:32 |
| evanpro | Mtl July was about 25 people | 17:32 |
| evanpro | Toronto in June was about 20 people | 17:32 |
| rejon | cool | 17:32 |
| rejon | are they monthly, or every once in a while? | 17:33 |
| paulproteus | Er, wait, it should be writable by the server. | 17:33 |
| evanpro | I know that Marcus is working on getting an old movie theater for regular salons | 17:33 |
| paulproteus | evanpro, Try again? | 17:33 |
| evanpro | paulproteus: same problem | 17:33 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, take a look at /web/wiki2/www/wiki/image sometimes and figure out what's up then. | 17:34 |
| evanpro | Is it possible that when mlinksva changed the MediaWIki settings... | 17:34 |
| evanpro | ...he restarted the server as a different user (himself, maybe)? | 17:34 |
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| rejon | evanpro: if you all pass along announces, etc, we could promote more...or is that icommons gig? | 17:35 |
| rejon | ;) | 17:35 |
| rejon | it is awesome you guys are leading on ccsalons :) | 17:35 |
| evanpro | rejon: I'll try to get the Montreal one up to date | 17:35 |
| evanpro | And I'll bug Marcus | 17:35 |
| rejon | cool...especially if you guys have a url like cc.ca/salon | 17:36 |
| evanpro | We need another one in Vancouver I think | 17:36 |
| rejon | and/or use the wiki | 17:36 |
| rejon | cool | 17:36 |
| rejon | i love vc | 17:36 |
| evanpro | No, I think it's best to use the wiki | 17:36 |
| rejon | agree | 17:36 |
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| mlinksva | paulproteus, http://creativecommons.org/about/alumni#19 | 18:01 |
| paulproteus | mlinksva, bovinity found her for me, thanks. | 18:01 |
| mlinksva | er, i missed bovinity's pointer | 18:01 |
| mlinksva | evanpro, images should now be writable. i upgraded mediawiki over the weekend and probably screwed up the permissions then | 18:04 |
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| paulproteus | bovinity, Can I ask you to print a .PS for me? | 18:12 |
| bovinity | paulproteus: for the presentation? | 18:13 |
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| rejon | whats a more general title for film and video media? | 18:14 |
| rejon | video is not film | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | bovinity, I just discovered that I'll have time to print it myself once I get to the office, so I'm suddenly no longer worried. | 18:14 |
| rejon | film is not video | 18:14 |
| paulproteus | rejon, "multimedia" | 18:14 |
| rejon | hmmm | 18:14 |
| rejon | multimedia though encompasses audio, video, film, etc | 18:14 |
| bovinity | not multimedia | 18:14 |
| rejon | just want something to encompass video and film and motion graphics, etc | 18:14 |
| rejon | maybe motion | 18:14 |
| * bovinity nods | 18:15 | |
| paulproteus | "multimedia" was a joke. (-: | 18:15 |
| paulproteus | Motion pictures.... | 18:15 |
| rejon | aha | 18:15 |
| rejon | ok dudes, i ported the media sections of the current site | 18:15 |
| rejon | mlinksva: motion? | 18:16 |
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| rejon | and, what should all these sections be called on the main page of the wiki | 18:18 |
| rejon | mlinksva: ? | 18:19 |
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| mlinksva | rejon, Moving Images | 18:26 |
| rejon | ok | 18:26 |
| mlinksva | but i'm not sure what the point is | 18:26 |
| rejon | there is none....like life | 18:26 |
| rejon | hmmm...not motion | 18:27 |
| rejon | seems simpler | 18:27 |
| bovinity | Cinema? | 18:28 |
| rejon | hmmm | 18:28 |
| bovinity | Film is probably the most suitable | 18:29 |
| rejon | i think so too now... | 18:31 |
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| rejon | actually moving pictures is better | 18:32 |
| rejon | looking up on wikipedia | 18:32 |
| rejon | ok, video is best | 18:33 |
| rejon | reading def. | 18:33 |
| rejon | ahahah | 18:33 |
| bovinity | lol | 18:33 |
| rejon | Video is the technology of capturing, recording, processing, transmitting, and reconstructing moving pictures, typically using celluloid film, electronic signals, or digital media, primarily for viewing on television or computer monitors | 18:33 |
| bovinity | just forward /Film /MotionGraphics to /Video | 18:33 |
| bovinity | then everyone will be happy | 18:33 |
| mlinksva | test | 18:35 |
| mlinksva | /Film is already a list of notable films, like the books article | 18:35 |
| rejon | y | 18:35 |
| rejon | kept as video | 18:36 |
| rejon | adding to main page | 18:36 |
| mlinksva | but i think all those articles you're adding may be premature. if the idea is for anyone to add their crap link ... they need to be intensively farmed. | 18:37 |
| rejon | y | 18:37 |
| rejon | just wanted to push out | 18:37 |
| rejon | the larger media as generalized links to the smaller media types | 18:37 |
| rejon | Text:Books | 18:37 |
| rejon | Video:Film | 18:37 |
| rejon | etc | 18:37 |
| mlinksva | that's the rason for having rough qualification on the books and film articles. they aren't "featured" cause that implies there's a decision to feature | 18:38 |
| mlinksva | notable is more objective | 18:38 |
| rejon | ok | 18:38 |
| mlinksva | having /Video /Text whatever is probably useful as portals to other wiki content relevant to those content types | 18:40 |
| mlinksva | but i'm skeptical about them being external linkfamrs | 18:40 |
| rejon | ok | 18:40 |
| mlinksva | good idea overall though. i'm thinking that maybe cc.org/video can really just be a blog cateogry and a link to wiki.cc.org/Video, which has pointers to any relevant CC resources for video folk | 18:43 |
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| mlinksva | and i'm eager to get semantic mediawiki going so content curators can just be a query result and /Video etc. can have just more limited query results | 18:44 |
| mlinksva | for hosting/filtering sites | 18:44 |
| mlinksva | then there's less duplicative content to farm | 18:45 |
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| rejon | http://wiki.creativecommons.org | 18:51 |
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| paulproteus | mlinksva, Is it Dana Powers who made the ToT tool? | 19:14 |
| bovinity | yes | 19:15 |
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| paulproteus | Did he say "Emo clients"? | 19:28 |
| mlinksva | must've meant email clients, but email can be emo i speculate, but i have no idea what emo is really | 19:32 |
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| rejon | not hard | 19:38 |
| rejon | just dictionary | 19:38 |
| rejon | merge with evolution now | 19:39 |
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| bovinity | so chandler is basically written by interns then.. | 19:46 |
| bovinity | neat. | 19:46 |
| rejon | hahahaha | 19:47 |
| rejon | like big comp sci. experiment | 19:47 |
| rejon | i've got a great idea! write the server in java and the app in python | 19:47 |
| bovinity | sounds rad | 19:47 |
| bovinity | but it should never be released | 19:47 |
| paulproteus | I wonder how this compares to classification by a simple naive bayes setup. | 19:47 |
| paulproteus | 73% isn't great, but I don't know how many document classes there are. | 19:48 |
| rejon | thats pretty good | 19:48 |
| rejon | dude, email that guy and get that in evo quick! | 19:48 |
| paulproteus | Do you mean emo that guy? | 19:48 |
| rejon | evolution | 19:49 |
| mlinksva | bovinity, re written by ... http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=193316&cid=15859294 | 19:50 |
| mlinksva | i love "architecture astronauts" | 19:51 |
| mlinksva | the phrase | 19:51 |
| paulproteus | I love architecture astronauts | 19:52 |
| paulproteus | the people | 19:52 |
| bovinity | space cowboys of the future. | 19:52 |
| rejon | those are some big projects | 19:52 |
| rejon | project #23: add mail capability to mail program | 19:53 |
| mlinksva | lol | 19:53 |
| paulproteus | rejon, if you keep saying things that hilarious I'm going to embarrass myself | 19:54 |
| rejon | just start your talk with that one | 19:54 |
| rejon | your done tomorrow...go out with a bang | 19:54 |
| rejon | jk | 19:54 |
| rejon | major just kidding | 19:54 |
| rejon | yeah, got 100% brazil translation for cchost | 19:56 |
| paulproteus | Brazil is a language? | 19:57 |
| paulproteus | Oh, I remember, it's a distant cousin of Afrikaans. | 19:57 |
| mlinksva | you're missing the .pt | 19:59 |
| rejon | +10 mlinksva | 19:59 |
| rejon | next presentation | 20:00 |
| mlinksva | practice for your next vj gig? | 20:01 |
| rejon | yeah, majorly...every day on 5 desktops | 20:02 |
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| mlinksva | more humor while waiting for the demo http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2006/08/10/ORM-Bien-Phu | 20:05 |
| paulproteus | Uh-oh, I mention ORMs in my presentation. | 20:07 |
| rejon | weird that grayed out text | 20:08 |
| abhay | haha ORM = Vietnam.. brilliance | 20:22 |
| bovinity | ^5 | 20:27 |
| bovinity | ... | 20:27 |
| rejon | :) | 20:27 |
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| paulproteus | "Horrible Exception" at http://www.m0hid.gov.hu/ (via http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/10/1626238 ). | 21:24 |
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| abhay | good job stephen colbert | 21:34 |
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